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05-09-2010 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
i played on this site for 5 hours yesterday and they definatley have something...
Just looking at the texture of the community cards, it seemed more like live poker..
in the cash games,it was not uncommon to see bottom pair or ace high win a pot...and in the tourney, i saw so many allins towards the latter stages where the small stack with a better hand held up...how often does that ever happen on ps or ft or any of the others.
nop rigged I had AA twice in 26 hands + runner runner later on
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05-09-2010 , 08:23 AM
how long were you playing? poker is all about the long term game strategy and working out the player..On other sites,i've always found that when i do that,the way the cards come out, always favours the donk chaser...On this site yesterday,,for the first time ever, i outplayed the donks...on ps ,i can now even call the next card and the suit before it is dealt...that can't be right..don't forget the luck factor,but if your good you will win on this site
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05-09-2010 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
how long were you playing? poker is all about the long term game strategy and working out the player..On other sites,i've always found that when i do that,the way the cards come out, always favours the donk chaser...On this site yesterday,,for the first time ever, i outplayed the donks...on ps ,i can now even call the next card and the suit before it is dealt...that can't be right..don't forget the luck factor,but if your good you will win on this site
How much is RDP paying you to post this? If you could call the next card and the suit before it is dealt then you're an idiot if you haven't made at least 10 million at PokerStars by now.



The RDP server is down.

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05-09-2010 , 08:53 AM
just my opinion...as for the next card referance, I ment that if you look at your own cards,you know roughly what the donks got,you look at the flop you can work out what cards gonna fk you!! and on ps it always comes..
example: i have jj no clubs donk prob weak ace small pr 2 paint
flop 7c 9s 6c 8c
i evaluate everything and say please no 10 specially clubs
the river will be 10 clubs donk has 22 with club or a?club or jq happens every day all the time. Why is it NEVER a dead card on the river like 3D??
if you play this game by the book using maths you should win that hand more times than u lose ...but in internet thats not reality!! just saying that yesterday,i felt that i wasnt underdog in them situations
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05-09-2010 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
just my opinion...as for the next card referance, I ment that if you look at your own cards,you know roughly what the donks got,you look at the flop you can work out what cards gonna fk you!! and on ps it always comes..
example: i have jj no clubs donk prob weak ace small pr 2 paint
flop 7c 9s 6c 8c
i evaluate everything and say please no 10 specially clubs
the river will be 10 clubs donk has 22 with club or a?club or jq happens every day all the time. Why is it NEVER a dead card on the river like 3D??
if you play this game by the book using maths you should win that hand more times than u lose ...but in internet thats not reality!! just saying that yesterday,i felt that i wasnt underdog in them situations
why would you be all-in with JJ on a flop like that? this is draw-heavy board, and there are really few dead cards
do you mean you went all in with JJ pre-flop? I think we are getting near your real problem, and it does not have anything to do with riggedness.

Last edited by spilari; 05-09-2010 at 09:40 AM. Reason: removed idiocy
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05-09-2010 , 10:05 AM
u miss the point... how many times on the main sites do u get JJ and there is NOT a draw heavy board???
if i read a player has an underpair or overcard draw then I should be getting all my chips in after the turn and b4 the river ..if not to make sure he doesn't have the odds??
Thats poker!!!surely mathmatically in these situations AS LONG AS MY READ IS CORRECT,i should win..I DONT on ps...
On this site yesterday,I did and the boards wern't draw heavy..



on this new site yesterday I did!!
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05-09-2010 , 10:20 AM
snake065, can you back your assertions up with statistical proof?
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05-09-2010 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
Just looking at the texture of the community cards, it seemed more like live poker..
ROFL
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05-09-2010 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Resistance
snake065, can you back your assertions up with statistical proof?
no , stopped doing that years ago because no matter how much data I got, the sites, and players on this forum always say ""varience " or "you play more hands on web and so it appears like that" bs!!
BS!!
If you play abc poker with top 10 hands on the big sites, with a good poker ability and read of players,and importantly PLAY THE MATHS,
you WILL LOSE....
I've been trying for years,playing within my br to do it...I've only ever lost 1 br and that was on UB (No comment on them)!!but i've never managed to gat out of the 25/50c 50c/$1 levels....
If I dont feel happy on this new site within a few months then i'm gonna cash all my br's in and play live only ...the internet has its last chance with me!!
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05-09-2010 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
no , stopped doing that years ago because no matter how much data I got, the sites, and players on this forum always say ""varience " or "you play more hands on web and so it appears like that" bs!!
BS!!
snake, your IQ is below 75. I have no proof for this, but from what I've observed, you are of sub-normal intelligence and your IQ is below 75.
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05-09-2010 , 10:54 AM
really resistance....if u think that then you wont mind a limit hu?? against someone with that iq? what sites r u on...I could play u now if u want
i'm on ft ps REALDEAL vc 888
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05-09-2010 , 10:56 AM
ps ... would rather play you on REALDEAL as thats the closest we'll get to a real fair game...(whole point of this thread)..lol
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05-09-2010 , 10:59 AM
snake, you're a douche' bag spammer and your site blows. How long until you tools go broke? Rig tards will always loose, at life and at poker. I guess this Gene guy inherited some money or hit it big at a slot machine. Because as far as making money this whole fiasco is a Fu*king joke.
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05-09-2010 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Nutz?
snake, you're a douche' bag spammer and your site blows. How long until you tools go broke? Rig tards will always loose, at life and at poker. I guess this Gene guy inherited some money or hit it big at a slot machine. Because as far as making money this whole fiasco is a Fu*king joke.
what r u talking about...i have no site!!! i'm just an avid internet poker player with a view. thought this site was a place to have a serious conversation with other players...obviously not
both u and that other idiot resistance should get back to kindr garden bells ringing!!playtime over!!
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05-09-2010 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
really resistance....if u think that then you wont mind a limit hu?? against someone with that iq? what sites r u on...I could play u now if u want
i'm on ft ps REALDEAL vc 888
lol, you completely missed the point of my post. You came here making a pseudo-statistical observation with absolutely no proof whatsoever. I was just showing you that other people can do that too.

But if you still want to arrange a few games, feel free to PM me, though I'm pretty sure we both have better things to do with our time.
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05-09-2010 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMeansNo
The RDP server is down.
For the love of God NO!

Must have been more traffic than they anticipated at one point I saw just over 100 people on there yesterday, oh wait a minute that was more than I expected.


Maybe they decided to just pull the plug on the whole thing.

Last edited by IcyFlops; 05-09-2010 at 11:34 AM. Reason: typo
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05-09-2010 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
what r u talking about...i have no site!!! i'm just an avid internet poker player with a view. thought this site was a place to have a serious conversation with other players...obviously not
both u and that other idiot resistance should get back to kindr garden bells ringing!!playtime over!!


We will and you should go back under your rock. Sorry, but your idea is a total fail. If you and your RD cronies don't like it here then why come here? I think RD is a bunch of laughable idiots, I do not go post on their board. Why would I want to converse with a bunch of life losers? So please, just walk away from this "kiddie" forum while we try to improve our poker game rather than looking for someone else to blame.
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05-09-2010 , 11:32 AM
Life loser???what r u on about??thought this was a place to talk seriously about poker..obviously not....
i think the new site REALDEAL.com seems a good idea....
I DO NOT work for or have any interest in them other than from a poker players view.
I played on it yesterday for some hours and felt for the first time in years,that I wasn't playing against the maths odds..
End of!!!
I've been a member on this site for years,why can't i have my opinions here??
didn't come here to argue for it,,just give my opinion..
thats what this sites here for???
End of...
I'm off to play some poker
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05-09-2010 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by snake065
Just looking at the texture of the community cards, it seemed more like live poker..
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Originally Posted by snake065
I played on it yesterday for some hours and felt for the first time in years,that I wasn't playing against the maths odds..

With this level of perception, you are either the smartest person in the world, or somewhere near the bottom of the scale. You'll need to elaborate for the forum to determine which.
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05-09-2010 , 11:45 AM
snake065
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Originally Posted by snake065
I've been a member on this site for years,why can't i have my opinions here??
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I'm off to play some poker
Perhaps the reason you lose so often that you think it must be rigged, when in all actuality it is that you are bad at teh maths.
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05-09-2010 , 12:57 PM
Snake, I have found the same sort of things online as you have, over the years. It's why I only play for serious money live. The main thing you have to remember is that no proof has been found about online one way or another. All you can do is what I have done over the years, and that is to take your own stats.

From what I can see there are a few serious poker players here on both sides of the fence. You are not talking to the kiddies when you post anyway, you are talking to and making your point to, the objective observer. When the kids make inarticulate, smartass, badly spelled, flaming, or one line replies, it reflects badly on them and their opinions. We are not speaking to them we are speaking to the silent majority. Some have not made up their minds about online or about RealDeal yet.

The question why the hate, could simply be because RealDeal, by its very existence, threatens the beliefs and views of some of those internet kids. They are angry. One thing I have always done is to keep calm at the table. I do the same when I am posting, debating, or talking. It makes your point in a much stronger way.
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05-09-2010 , 01:05 PM
If snake065 or some other RDP representative could care to explain the reason why so many words are forbidden by the chat censor, I would be amused, while we wait for the site to go up again.

Actually the tables are up, but every game is rolled back with a funny error: Game check certification failed – game will be rolled back
I guess someone managed to manipulate the shuffle machines.

apart from the usual swear words (well I assume usual swear words are censored but I did not try them), here are a few nice ones:

site: why is this word forbidden? because it reminds us that this is online poker?

stars, cake are of course replaced with '****'s but when I tried to write FTP, the whole sentence was censored. Do you hate FTP specially much?

why is the word rake forbidden? are players not supposed to be aware that rake is taken?

and rakeback? what is so sensitive about that? does this mean that I should have signed up through an affiliate and am I now doomed to use my grandmother's identity to to receive rakeback?

can I get a list of all forbidden words, so that I can avoid them please?


Edit: the poker room is down again

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05-09-2010 , 01:09 PM
"It's why I only play for serious money live."


okeedokeesmokee
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05-09-2010 , 01:13 PM
The spillari post I agree with. They censor the word "site" and I have found no one in charge bothers commenting on why this is the case. Presumably this will change.

Another thing that irritates me is the ban on bad language at the forum. It's why I have said I will not post there. They have a special thread for all the bad language adult type posts. I personally hate that.
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05-09-2010 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel1
Snake, I have found the same sort of things online as you have, over the years. It's why I only play for serious money live. The main thing you have to remember is that no proof has been found about online one way or another.
No proof has been found that online poker is rigged despite the fact that a lot of people collect stats and look for evidence of rigging.

This is persuasive evidence that it is probably not rigged.

You can't prove a negative which is why it has never been proven that online poker is not rigged.

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From what I can see there are a few serious poker players here on both sides of the fence. You are not talking to the kiddies when you post anyway, you are talking to and making your point to, the objective observer.
There may be serious posters on both sides of the fence but there certainly aren't particularly knowledgeable posters on the pro-RealDeal side because anyone with the smallest amount of knowledge about online poker knows that the method of generating the deck is irrelevant. Anyone up to no good would simply ignore the dealt deck and adjust the cards given to the players some other way.

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When the kids make inarticulate, smartass, badly spelled, flaming, or one line replies, it reflects badly on them and their opinions.
This is true in general although sometime one line responses to particularly stupid posts can be quite amusing.

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We are not speaking to them we are speaking to the silent majority.
Ah, the famous silent majority. A group frequently invoked by the vociferous minority.

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Some have not made up their minds about online or about RealDeal yet.
Obviously.

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The question why the hate, could simply be because RealDeal, by its very existence, threatens the beliefs and views of some of those internet kids. They are angry.
You are quite correct here. The kids who can't play poker are angry that they are unable to make any money and want to believe that there is something unfair in the game that excuses their lamentable performance. So they see RealDeal as a possible saviour and get really angry when wiser heads point out to them the how the genesis of each deck is irrelevant - if the site is crooked it will just be ignored.

But, as you say, they are children (of whatever age). If they would just expend the effort they waste on blaming rigged sites on improving their game they would grow up and, as a bonus, make some money.
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