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05-08-2010 , 07:40 AM

#751

siguy6819

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 81

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

You see, that's the problem. Me neither, because they aren't telling us.

Agreed.

You don't need to make my word for it - just use some logic. The decks shuffled by the machine aren't one-to-one with the games at the table. They've even said as much. They apparently use some kind of patented matrix, which presumably takes one shuffle and makes multiple deals out of it.

So, I only see two ways of deciding which of these deals to use at any one table:

A pre-set configuration, which sounds exploitable to me.
They choose a configuration...wait for it...randomly!

If you have another theory, fire away please.

The funny thing is that with their traffic right now, it sounds like 2 machines might be more than enough, even without a matrix.

I guess speculating about their system is getting us nowhere fast, so i suppose it's "watch this space". FWIW i've played a tourny on there and got to last 6, (ok only 42 starters),and had two allin situations on the final table 1 ahead 1 behind and both times other guy flop's a stright. Now IMO IF once the cut was made the sequence of the cards remains the same then i'm happy with that, if thats not how it happens it must be an RNG ?? which itec say "its not a prng".

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05-08-2010 , 07:42 AM

#752

siguy6819

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 81

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Originally Posted by Wiki

I don't think you even knew what you meant yourself.

ok einstein

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05-08-2010 , 07:47 AM

#753

siguy6819

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 81

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Originally Posted by iopq

i said there's 24! times more configurations of 52 cards than there are of 28 cards because there are 52! configurations of 52 cards and 52!/24! configurations of 28 cards
and speaking of embarassing... you failed at reading my post the second time

It's ok he does that quite alot

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05-08-2010 , 07:47 AM

#754

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,056

I hope real deal poker fails because of their spamming and other ******ation. However if it succeeds I'll definitely play there, the average IQ of the playerbase will likely be at least 10 points lower than other sites. And that's saying something.

Last edited by tomdemaine; 05-08-2010 at 07:58 AM.

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05-08-2010 , 07:48 AM

#755

siguy6819

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

A pre-set configuration, which sounds exploitable to me.
They choose a configuration...wait for it...randomly!

If you have another theory, fire away please.

The funny thing is that with their traffic right now, it sounds like 2 machines might be more than enough, even without a matrix.

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05-08-2010 , 07:53 AM

#756

Wiki

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,939

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

You still don't seem to realise that the number of mappings is irrelevant to the post to which you originally responded.

I stated that you needed some way to select which mapping to use and you responded by wittering on about how many mappings there were. That's irrelevant.

And LOL at you whining about other people not reading your posts.

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05-08-2010 , 07:54 AM

#757

Wiki

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,939

Quote:

Originally Posted by siguy6819

ok einstein

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Originally Posted by siguy6819

It's ok he does that quite alot

You'd do better if you actually argued facts and logic rather than posting schoolboy comebacks.

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05-08-2010 , 08:06 AM

#758

iopq

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,347

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Originally Posted by Wiki

see the post before the one you quoted

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05-08-2010 , 08:21 AM

#759

Wiki

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,939

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

see the post before the one you quoted

Are you trying to make everyone as confused as you seem to be?

The post above the one I quoted in the post that you quoted was a reply to siguy67819.

What is your point?

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05-08-2010 , 08:33 AM

#760

iopq

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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,347

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Are you trying to make everyone as confused as you seem to be?

The post above the one I quoted in the post that you quoted was a reply to siguy67819.

What is your point?

no, my post

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05-08-2010 , 08:44 AM

#761

Wiki

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,939

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Originally Posted by iopq

no, my post

You're just taking the P now.

Be gone, troll.

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05-08-2010 , 09:02 AM

#762

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

OMGZ THEY JUST CLOSED OFF REAL DEAL POKER TO USA PLAYERS

In the last few hours I played two freerolls and cashed for a total of 10.50 euros in the two and played a little .01euro/.02euro and then the client shut down and I couldn't log back in, I had about 15 euros so I went to their site and asked the live help support chat why I couldn't login and they informed me that they do not allow US players. Goddamnit. I am demanding a check for my 15 euros.

This is rediculous, if they didn't want to allow US players then why did they have a deposit option for The USA in their cashier? The USA was listed under the list of contries in the deposit options.

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05-08-2010 , 09:27 AM

#763

NFuego20

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,295

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Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

Oh god there goes half their player base.

In case you couldn't tell, this site is run by a bunch of morans.

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05-08-2010 , 09:38 AM

#764

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

These bastards better send me a check for 15 euros, I worked hard for 2 and a half hours for those 15 ****ing euros.

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05-08-2010 , 09:53 AM

#765

fix9

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 998

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Cheap shots and bad humor, I am sure your mom is so proud! At least you added something constructive to this discussion

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05-08-2010 , 10:09 AM

#766

Got Nutz?

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,792

Looks like their opening went about as good as their shill accounts on 2+2. I for sure said they were not going to open. When all this started I thought it was some joke Stephen Smears made up. I am a small business owner and it is sad to see someone put their heart and soul into a business and it fail. I am not saying they have failed, but it is not like they are kicking asss. As a business owner I understand how not to piss off my client base. One of the first rules I learned is " You never win an argument with the customer. Even if you're right." May be one day the Real Lawyer @ Real Deal will let them tell us what we are betting money on.

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05-08-2010 , 10:15 AM

#767

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

So was this site closed off to US players from the beginning? I certainly didn't see it anywhere on their page, and they let me play 2 freerolls and cash games for a few hours before shutting me down.....They even had a "United States" tab in the pulldown box under VISA in their deposit options, so how the F'k are they going to say they don't allow US players.

God what a bunch of F'king idiots.

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05-08-2010 , 10:46 AM

#768

Wilco666

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

I guess they bought some kind of turnkey solution from Everleaf Gaming and forgot to untick the "US allowed" box in their backend.

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05-08-2010 , 10:50 AM

#769

Resistance

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,011

Wow, can't believe the real money tables are dead. It's industry standard to at least have props on your tables ffs.

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05-08-2010 , 10:57 AM

#770

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Dude, the # of players on this site is going to skyrocket, I felt it in just the 10 or so hours that I was a member of the site.

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05-08-2010 , 11:00 AM

#771

alch

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 137

Damn the number of rigtards playing keeps on doubling. It's not fair at all for a gimmick site like this to be successful.

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05-08-2010 , 11:05 AM

#772

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

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Originally Posted by alch

Damn the number of rigtards playing keeps on doubling. It's not fair at all for a gimmick site like this to be successful.

From talking to people in the freerolls and the .01euro/.02euro tables, about 40-60% of them seemed to be actual rigtards. VERY FUNNY

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05-08-2010 , 11:06 AM

#773

alch

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 137

Yea, I observed a couple ring games and the chat between them was lol worthy.

Wonder what their reactions will be like when they run into their 1st bad beat on the site...

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05-08-2010 , 11:29 AM

#774

McSeafield

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8,623

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Interesting, but it's all news to me. If you're giving me credit, it's misplaced.

Why do u post then, if nobody can give u credit? I think u should go to your Zoo.

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05-08-2010 , 11:30 AM

#775

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by alch

Yea, I observed a couple ring games and the chat between them was lol worthy.

Wonder what their reactions will be like when they run into their 1st bad beat on the site...

I was runner-runnered at headsup 5/10 playchips in my first 100 hands. I had AK on AKX flop and the money goes in, then J turn Q river and villain has AT for around 100bb's, it was a 6-max table with two players.

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