Both sides of an issue? There is no issue.. you just took a personal shot at me... I dont even know you/or care to know you im here for the well-being of online poker...

Cant play on real deal?? I'm playin right now. You should try it yourself

Well I kinda found it in this folder C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\Real Deal Poker\HandHistory

wouldn't take sherlock holmes to find it I am sure and here is a sample HH from it

Real Deal Poker Game #1653
***** Hand history for game #1653 *****
Blinds €0.05/€0.10 NL Hold'em - 2010/05/07 - 22:23:07
Table Adam V
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players: 6
Seat 3: CantBullyMe ( € 4.79 EURO )
Seat 5: Chacalus ( € 4.62 EURO )
Seat 6: jailbait78 ( € 10.41 EURO )
Seat 7: HEBRIDIAN ( € 5.08 EURO )
Seat 8: headaedz ( € 3 EURO )
Seat 10: Vanisherer ( € 6.38 EURO )
jailbait78: posts small blind [€ 0.05 EURO]
headaedz: nh
HEBRIDIAN: posts big blind [€ 0.10 EURO]
Awaiting Dealer Cut
Deal Cut at Position 38
** Dealing down cards **
jailbait78: ty
headaedz folds
Vanisherer folds
CantBullyMe raises [€ 0.35 EURO]
Chacalus folds
jailbait78 folds
HEBRIDIAN calls [€ 0.25 EURO]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 7d, 3d ]
HEBRIDIAN: bets [€ 0.10 EURO]
CantBullyMe folds
Certifying game
Game check certification complete
HEBRIDIAN does not show cards
HEBRIDIAN wins € 0.72 EURO from main pot

I am just trying to play devils advocate for as you came up with a story but with no evidence.

I am with bobo fett on this one, I have read this thread with great interest and although he is clearly not a fan of real deal he has always been very fair with his concerns about the site.

No issue? So you don't think there's any outstanding questions about how this matrix works without an RNG? You just see "Real Deal good", and that's it; that's what I'm referring to. Just like "Online Poker rigged". And actually, you're the only one getting personal. I've just been pointing out that your posting has been terrible.

Interesting. So do they allow US players to play for play money then?

Yeah, I guess that's a valid comment based on my posts, but not entirely true, TBH. I still may open an account there if I get some time. I just think they have some explaining to do WRT this whole matrix/no RNG issue.

But thanks for the fair comment. I try to be, although I'm sure I fail sometimes.

Yes but come on Bobo Fett, do we really need to engage in this conversation again? I know you love heated drama over the net but please man.....
And you have always taken personal shots at me for some reason? I dont even come here to speak with you. If you ask a person like Josem, who I have spoken to personally, he will tell you what im about.

I am playing a freeroll and Visa deposits are available after the weekend from the info i got

Bobo I know you're gonna wanna get the last word on this as you always try and do... so to let you know, im not responding to you no more... really a waste of time to be honest. Im here to talk to fellow Real Deal players... If you are not one of them, why are you here?

We are not here to discuss whether online poker is rigged, thats in the other thread... go there man!

Nope.

Not so much, really.

I don't think I've ever made it personal. But I've said my piece now.

But they still won't be allowing Americans AFAIK, so I don't know how Visa helps. Or am I mistaken?

Aside from the fact that this is an open forum, as I've said, I may be a player there one day. But I think there's still some questions that need answering.

I think its time to merge this thread into the "the great onilne poker is rigged" thread

It also wouldn't be an issue if the programmers could have used the standard location for storing the data of a Windows app. I do not have a real deal poker sub in my documents either though. Your Sherlock Holmes comment is laughable and your one that got away was inflammatory as it was intended to be.

Play devils advocate for them all you want I made no statement that was negative towards the credibility, I'll say it again I can accept it as a completely random event as most of the non rigtards in here. You however consider that something like that couldn't happen, because you have absolutely no concept of what random is.

Have fun there a whopping 51 players on 7 tables at the moment that I must say is an epic big failure at this point, make that 50 'cos I just logged off.
Ugly client, bad design, no players, a pretty dull place to play poker.

I do agree with you Bobo that the deal needs explaining more in depth and I did listen to the webcast the other night and they did say that as soon as the patent lawyers allow it they will go as in depth as anyone wants them to.

At least this site seems to understand that the onus should be on the providers of the games to prove fairness of the game.

a) I don't recall ever speaking to you personally. I'm pretty sure we only ever corresponded on 2p2, and possibly on email.

b) I always assumed you were somehow associated with the operators of RealDealPoker.

This is not a negative remark then? With no evidence to support your claims and all the " non riggies" bleat on so much about evidence when it suits their cause.

.. You dont remember all the conversations we have had through instant messenger, aujoz?

You have never stated that and I can go back if you like and get the supporting statements you made

Real Deal Poker
What their Mission Statement should say.

Here at Real Deal Poker we believe that lowering the number of hands you play an hour, preventing mutitabling, playing with real dealers 1000s of miles away, and offering rake like the ones at B&M casinos are an important part of having the complete poker INexperience.

Who needs RNG when we can offer you the ablity to slow roll like you are in a real casino in the privacy of your own home. Check out the rest of the positives of playing at RDP.

*see below

Pros
- Can wave to the dealer as they pass you your cards through a little tube that connects to some thing, that holds this, that holds the "real deck"
- We are sponsored by Kanye West, the king of the slow roll
- Show cards at a later date*
Note if you choose this option, then your oppnent will have to wait 4 months to see your cards in any fold and show situation. We have taken more then 5 years to setup and are currently not running. We feel it is important to take your time(we did). Plus that punk a** sucker can wait to see what hands you had, he waited on our software. This is real poker.
- We did not forget about the ladies. We are offering the winner of Ladies Freeroll a weekly date with the dealer of your choice with a no expenses paid trip to West Virginia's top rated paint shop to watch the paint dry over the beautiful sunset of Morgantown.

Forums Offer
-Punk A** Lounge where you can talk to fellow riggies about how RNGs are full of S***. You can also talk about how your 22s got crack by Quads Aces at a FTP SNG game. You can also dismiss variance and say variance is not poker.

Yours Truly,
The Real Deal Poker Team
P.S: if you see two 4 at the tables note that in some cases this have been known to happen in "real poker"

^^^^^^ Now thats funny!

18 players on 3 tables ATM is even funnier.

lol seriously? I figured there would be more rigtards ready for this big day than that.

you think poker stars had more then 50 poeple after their first 12 hours?

No idea, but when they opened, they certainly didn't have so many read-made audiences on poker forums and other places. Real Deal is opening in a much more mature market.

Of course, that also means they have lots of competition, and not allowing US players doesn't help either.

Either way, you've gotta think they were hoping for a little better.

I'd bet PS had more than 18 on 3 tables after only 9 hours poo.

Josem! chop-chop lol.
Surely you can have someone verify that.

Now, just imagine if Real Deal had come here and said " hey guys, we have a new way of coming up with a random deal and we think it will attract new players and rig-tards. We need your help in attracting fish to our site. What else can we do to build a player base?." It would have been flooded by 2+2ers looking for easy money. Seems a shame to waste such a source of players and information. I would play some money there if they allowed US players. I tried to use the flash player(but did not want to set up an account), so I assume it will work on a mac.

Thanks Bobo Fett. McSeafield got already his "Fett ab". Two of his threads were closed at short notice and he received a short-term ban. He fired back and requested a final longterm ban, just like Hercules dit it before. He said to me: "There are some wiseguys structures in this 2+2 forums. Can't you see that. Better to fight against them outside these formums where they can taste nosebleed nougat."

Is this the real durr? There was only 1 table and 6 people playing on this one table at the time on the entire site.