can someone explain to me what this was about? durrr shot lederer down, that's for sure, but what was lederer talking about?

I think I heard durrrr say he had two diamonds or the two of diamonds, not sure which.

so wrong

eli should have gotten it in on the flop. i think they were only 100bb deep so howard snap calls anyway.

on the other hand, i would imagine that howard would shut down once the flush draw hits (from what i remember, he didn´t have a club in his hand). eli could have cost himself a lot of money by just calling.

that said, he got lucky. howard´s turn play was super awful.

Watch it on pokertube. I missed the big hand between dwan and ziig when watching it on nbc. Plus you don't have to waste your time watching adverts.

All the props talk is ruining the show imo. They need to ban them like they did on HSP.

lol eli elezra practically gave away his hand when he INSTANTLY bet 15k on the flop or w/e with AQ vs durrrs JJ.

Agreed, it's highly annoying. It also makes it look like the players don't care much about the actual poker game if they need prop bets to keep themselves interested. Maybe they don't care about it, but there is no need to advertise it on the show.

I posted a bit above what it was about. 99.9% sure. Only thing that fits based on how they were talking and it logical to the situation.

Do you really think these guys take such cheeseburger stakes seriously after playing 2-4k PLO in Bobby's Room? Epic show my ass...more like epic snoozefest, listening to uneducated poker hustlers talking about diamonds flopping. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. There's more action in 10 minutes on Full Tilt than 2 weeks of this rubbish, without the insipid table talk. Stick a fork in it folks, poker is done. Go back to school kiddies, there's no future here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvsnd...D13477F8A37726

HQ ver

sick lineup, durrrr's the king :>

Noone is mentioning that Ivey was showing he had a nine with his annoyed grunt when the second nine came, maybe Howard picked up on that?

Zigmund is one of the worst NLH players i have ever seen.

idk where you have been playing then

She's always had that, it's all I can hear whenever she talks. She's hot enough that she gets a pass though, a speech impediment is far from a deal breaker in that spot.

I agree with much of what you say. The stakes are way too low. Should be 500-1k atleast. Table chatter is just props. Ivey is just a grumpy semi-fro-grower. Unlike hsp no witty commentary, that might have made this a tad more entertaining.

Disappointed

Dwan will be the big winner, followed by Ivey, Followed by Eli. Howard will wait for good hands and then get the cracked, Zigmund will play Whatever he wants and PA will just sit there and look pretty.

They will up the stakes soon. keep your shirt on

Also, these "uneducated hustlers" you are talking about are Ivey and Dwan. Two of the best players in the world you dolt.

We got more action in the first 10mins of this show than in the entire last season of HSP. We saw like what, dwan and ziigumnd play ONE hand together on HSP...and in EDITED FORMAT?! There have already been half a dozen interesting hands in 1 episode - in hsp there were maybe 2 in the entire boring -wait 1 week every week - season.

And no, the less announcing the better. We want to hear table talk. We don't want to hear stupid jokes and AJ Benza's pity laughs and annoying acting and voice, over and over - and the announcing of what they have every single hand. Don't like prop bets? Boo hoo - this is who they are , why force them to stop doing what they do? It's also hilarious watching Ivey keep the score and it gave us a classic Dwan reaction.

As for Howard being the weak link - he has impressed so far with his...LAGness! Antonious is the one who is nitting it up a bit so far. Let's hope that changes.

God will sit and the beauty of his presence shall bring joy to the mortals.

How anyone could vote howard...

For the lulz.

OK, just how many NLH players have you seen? 2?

Can someone please FULLY explain the prop bet with the diamonds and stuff... what is the meaning of "he slept his prop"
please explain the whole prop bet in detail and how it works and why DURRR looked like he got owned ...
im n00bz0rs sorry

how do you play the prop game anyways? dwan forgot to collect 7200?

if your a suit and you flop 2 or more of your suit.. you win the prop?

I don't understand it either. I don't know why they do this on TV without explaining it clearly to the viewers. Just play poker, that's what the show is supposed to be about.

Does anyone think there may have been a hole-cam error when it showed PA folding 22 after Durrrr opened for 4K on the straddle? (It was the pot where Durrr had JJ vs. Eli's AQ). With stacks so deep, I just can't imagine PA would fold there given Durrrr's range and with position on Durrrr. And on top of that, PA hadn't played a pot (that we saw, anyhow) so you'd think he'd be itching to get in. I just can't believe he wouldn't take a flop there...