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View Poll Results: Who Will Win The Most $ (two weeks)?
Tom Dwan
146 37.73%
Patrik Antonius
59 15.25%
Howard Lederer
56 14.47%
Eli Elezra
11 2.84%
Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies
17 4.39%
Phil Ivey
98 25.32%

09-08-2009 , 08:20 AM
had to update adobe shockwave and disable hostsxpert. works fine in firefox
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09-08-2009 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
Almost a quarter of a million dollars in the pot and nobody has a pair. I was very suprised the Zig callled that all in from Dwan. Very entertaining.
He had half of his stack in. Of course he is calling.

Durrr has lower fd there alot, maybe pair+fd. Maybe just TP.
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09-08-2009 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bL1z
does any1 know when this episode will be on pokertube/********?
should be up on NBCsports website later today. usually pretty good with their updates
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09-08-2009 , 09:33 AM
On NBC website now!
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09-08-2009 , 09:40 AM
Does it seem like Dwan is trying way too hard to impress Ivey to anyone else?

It's like a JD, Dr. Cox thing from "Scrubs"

Maybe I was just imagining things so late at night, but it really seemed that way to me.
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09-08-2009 , 09:43 AM
lol wat?
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09-08-2009 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by eBecks18
ur trying to overthink the game imo, howards line was fine. he just happened to run into a set.
Agreed. Howard managed to build a $30,000 pot with only $90,000 left in his stack. You'll rarely manage to get away from the aces correctly with such a shallow stack. His big mistake was having Eli flop a set.
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09-08-2009 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by silverfish68
Does it seem like Dwan is trying way too hard to impress Ivey to anyone else?

It's like a JD, Dr. Cox thing from "Scrubs"

Maybe I was just imagining things so late at night, but it really seemed that way to me.
I might get flamed for this, but Ivey acted like a bit of a dick on last night's ep rolling his eyes and calling the 7-2 game stupid.
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09-08-2009 , 10:12 AM
Did anyone else notice Leeann's lisp? I've never noticed it before, but it was pretty hardcore during the intro.
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09-08-2009 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nyc_bullets
ohhhh and one more thing.....i think durrr was confused about what howard was talking about..i think howard was talking about props but durr thought he was talking about the action....anyway..
durr schooled the **** outta him.

"actually since i flat/shoved, i should never have diamonds there. its actually the oppposite. youre wrong"

when lederer said durrr gave his hand away or something...
They were betting props. Durr had Diamonds. When diamonds flop he wins money (if he doesnt sleep it, as he did later and quit doing them.)

Therefore, he's more likely to reraise a hand with two diamonds because there are less in the deck. With less in the deck, he can't win money on props and will owe the others when their props hit.

That's what he was talking about when he said that to Howard.

I did enjoy how he had the K2diamonds. Eli said something about the 3d4d x flop being bonus money if a 5d for a flop "straight flush." Durrr was quick to mention "or the 2d" while holding it. Not huge point, but sneaky sneaky
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09-08-2009 , 10:20 AM
nbc's relay working in Thailand
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09-08-2009 , 10:32 AM
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09-08-2009 , 10:39 AM
What is it with Lederer voting multiple times in this pole?
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09-08-2009 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by metalfdoom
Sound epic ahah
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09-08-2009 , 11:20 AM
AA vs 88 was pretty standard for those critiquing
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09-08-2009 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
AA vs 88 was pretty standard for those critiquing
yeah, i think both played it well actually, which isn't something i'll say about either of those two very often

on the other hand, eli's 3 barrel with 72 vs howard was terrible
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09-08-2009 , 11:39 AM
I loved Dwan's face when Ivey rejected the 72 prop.

Anyone else find Lederer's joke pretty lame?
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09-08-2009 , 01:14 PM
link? Im afraid to read any of the posts cause spoilers
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09-08-2009 , 01:17 PM
Uh I dont think Lederer played the AA well at all, with his PF raise and cbet knowing howards style it was pretty transparent he had an overpair

then with the board pairing on the turn vs a player like elezra he could have easily had a 9 there, c/call would have been a much better play... I mean what does Howard think he is getting called with an all in there?

Also as ive seen with Eli many times when he wins a big pot he reallly opens up his play and gambles much more, like the next pot with howard 3 barreling with 7-2

p.s can someone please explain the props so i can understand why dwan was so gobsmacked after the JJ vs AQ hand where Ivey said "whos diamonds anyway?"
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09-08-2009 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermillion
yeah, i think both played it well actually, which isn't something i'll say about either of those two very often

on the other hand, eli's 3 barrel with 72 vs howard was terrible
Howard seriously looked like he knew he was getting coolered again, but Eli's bet amounts were just horrible.
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09-08-2009 , 01:23 PM
Lederer is tilting me so bad. I hate this guy
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09-08-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian J
Howard seriously looked like he knew he was getting coolered again, but Eli's bet amounts were just horrible.
Yeah, he definately didn't want to call. Quite funny.
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09-08-2009 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizzn
Uh I dont think Lederer played the AA well at all, with his PF raise and cbet knowing howards style it was pretty transparent he had an overpair

then with the board pairing on the turn vs a player like elezra he could have easily had a 9 there, c/call would have been a much better play... I mean what does Howard think he is getting called with an all in there?

Also as ive seen with Eli many times when he wins a big pot he reallly opens up his play and gambles much more, like the next pot with howard 3 barreling with 7-2

p.s can someone please explain the props so i can understand why dwan was so gobsmacked after the JJ vs AQ hand where Ivey said "whos diamonds anyway?"
Dwan slept his prop. If there's 2 diamonds on the flop Dwan wins 2.5k from each person I think
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09-08-2009 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grng92
I might get flamed for this, but Ivey acted like a bit of a dick on last night's ep rolling his eyes and calling the 7-2 game stupid.
Pure logic from Ivey, imo. With such a loose image, and with a much less likeliness of getting away with a pre-flop raise (or bluffs in general), this is a 100x better deal for Howard. Which Howard obv didn't understand, lol. At least not until later.

Ivey got dem brains and understands this.
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09-08-2009 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AK87
link? Im afraid to read any of the posts cause spoilers
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/228251...45118#32645118
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