To bring the thread back to poker stuff, I think Doug has more important Vegas stuff to consider this anytime in the near future.

I am still failing to understand the relation between being a great HUNL player and then AUTOMATICALLY being a great 6 max player.

It is possible he is as well. It is possible he wins the bet without breaking sweat.

I just don't think it is a 100% guaranteed. And if people who do want to put on some bets if he ever did announce, would love to get a sweat on him not doing.

The podcast run good is real. GL Joe

lol pretty good edits

odd_oddsen tho

Does papi understand the nuances of tournament poker ?

Here's a 30-second "twittercast" from Joey 7 hours ago alongside PLP.

https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...90931403972608

Best of luck today, Joey!

Probably. ICM (i.e the maths of it) is a joke anyway - he'll do fine with an intuitive understanding of the desire to "ladder" in his own head and that desire in the heads of the other players - the rest is pseudoscience.

Yeah, I think it would be fun prop bet. I'd bet against a positive EVbb over the first 50k hands if given odds of say 3:1

zzzzzzzz -1000 on the Vlog's.

Jose 33 of 39 remaining with about 70k @ Level 15 (1500/3000)

Out in 34th for $7,795

GG Papi

Now I understand why Papi grinds cash

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2016/0...wsop-25086.htm

Don't worry about Big Time Phil we have Big Time Jose

First decent thing I have read on pokernews since Jesus was a baby. Congrats Papi.

The relation is that most important skill in both of these games is playing profitably in both sides of steal scenarios.

Anything else is freeplay, which its pretty hard to play unprofitably when you literally have no money invested.

The idea that any top HU reg wouldn't beat 500z is pretty lol

OK, this is a good and interesting point.

I have no doubt Doug is unbelievable at 500z playing out of the BB from a BTN or CO raise in a HU pot.

What my point is (and what I'm thinking which could be v wrong) is the multi/way aspect of the game is v dissimilar to HU pots.

So I have no problem thinking Doug is profitable in HU pots. What is his play likely to be like in 3, 4, 5, 6 way pots across 4x streets of action over 50k hands? (Perfect, fine, breakeven or possibly losing?)

Doug played 5kNL 6max in 2015 or 2014 i dont remmenber,he put decent volume and beat it for 2bb/100 or 1b~/100,Doug would deff crush that game, he's way better than any 500z reg, not even close.he devoted the past years of his life perfecting every specific crafting of 100bb NLH,he has a deep understanding of NLHE, he would be a winner in most of NLHE if not all.Jungleman never played HUsng, and he is the biggest winner this year,
Kingdmer knows what it takes to beat Mid/high stakes, if he say doug would crush it, you should believe him

Just wanted to say absolutely love the podcasts Joey - (esp PLO ones). Keep them coming Papi!!!!

Just to give and idea what variance looks like with 1bb/100. Personally have no opinion if he'd beat it or not.

Do it boy.

You know you wont because if you werent a winner, your head would explode.

(And if you did win, your head would grow unbelievably large for other reasons but may not pop)

The reason why Doug is being mentioned was because he told/bet Timex couldnt beat the game. He was right coincidentally.

I have no proof he can beat it (but most people in the thread seem pretty sure).

Congrats on the wsop cash papi. Shots fired about your short stack play in that pokernews article tho.

#bluemagic

i understand that, but he played all year, and put decent volume, sometimes ppl sound like theres no big difference between HS/Mid stakes, when Otb_redbaron played zoom he beat it like nobody did ,look what happen when nanonoko moved to 5k, he was crushed

I am no expert on this but I think you are viewing discrete events incorrectly. The past (at any stake) =/= today at 500zoom. Would Taylor Caby definitely crush still?

Whatever people think of the quality of play across the population of the average pool here, it is fitting we are having the conversation in the podcast thread. So a message to Doug (and to people who think it's a shoe in for him to succeed where Timex failed):

LET'S SEE THE RECEIPTS!!!!!!!

Xactly.

Pretty much should be a nobrainer given he could stream it and get giant exposure w several articles in the media, boost his education product and collect 100-500k from the prop and an additional 50k or so at teh tables.
Maybe he just hates money.

Would be awkward though if for some reason he doesnt crush it

This is wrong for several reasons:

1. Doug plays well but not his best on the stream, to protect the way he plays for himself and our users.

2. There isn't a ton of value above replacement for a 500z prop vs what he's doing or plans to do already. In other words doing this over normal streaming isn't going to all of the sudden cause a huge boost for UP.

3. Where is he going to get 100-500k in action? The reason we went small on the timex bet and made him keep it discrete is because we didn't want to compromise in the integrity of the game. If all of the sudden he bets 500k against all of the best 6m players and the lineups change dramatically it eliminates the whole point.

4. Doug is a lot of things, but short on media attention definitely isn't one of them :P

i've played with him a bit recently.. and i'd bet against him on beating 5knl 6max on stars.

Assuming he plays seriously at midstakes and during his streams, i'd say there's almost no way he would beat the 6max nl players with his current game.
If he doesn't play his best game on this low stakes (either on purpose or bc he doesn't care because its too low), that's other story then