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06-18-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by walkby
You're pretty ****ing ignorant. Millions of people get diagnosed with schizophrenia and it isn't unusual for someone who is to recover from it, given they get the appropriate treatment. Way to contribute to the stigma that's attached to mental health, you're doing such a service for the people who think they're ****ed for life just because they have a little more on their plate than others.

I agree that he should get help though, but the suicide talk is just fanning flames in a situation that doesn't need it.
There is no helping this guy. I would love to be proven wrong and I'd wear the "****ing ignorant" badge with pride, but let's be realistic...
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06-18-2016 , 02:10 PM
cant watch those adz videos, just the title of the first one "Matt Marafioti (@Adzizzy) Gets Framed By The Illuminati, Italian And Jewish Mobs Because Of Drake" shows how sad it's gotten for this poor bastard.
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06-18-2016 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfLoss
Good ****ing god that ADZ video. This guy is a complete lunatic. Someone with this level of mental illness doesn't even seem salvageable. Guaranteed he will end up dead of suicide within a few years.

If anyone knows about the band After the Burial, their guitarist Justin Lowe had an extremely similar mental breakdown and ended up dead.
http://loudwire.com/after-the-burial...nd-conspiracy/

This guy shouldn't be on a podcast, he needs to be in a mental hospital.
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Originally Posted by walkby
You're pretty ****ing ignorant. Millions of people get diagnosed with schizophrenia and it isn't unusual for someone who is to recover from it, given they get the appropriate treatment. Way to contribute to the stigma that's attached to mental health, you're doing such a service for the people who think they're ****ed for life just because they have a little more on their plate than others.

I agree that he should get help though, but the suicide talk is just fanning flames in a situation that doesn't need it.
people with schizophrenia dont get better , they get medicated and relapse once they inevitably stop taking there meds. on the other hand though he really doesnt seem that crazy to be honest. his stories are consistant which is unusual for schizophrenia . there probably is truth to his stories. hes prob. not schizo prob manic depressive / paranoid.
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06-18-2016 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfLoss
There is no helping this guy. I would love to be proven wrong and I'd wear the "****ing ignorant" badge with pride, but let's be realistic...
You need to withhold your judgement & your prediction. Especially your prediction. Your ignorant findings are based on a video you watched & other 2nd/3rd-hand information.

You have no basis to write this [below quote] about a guy you've no personal knowledge of:
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Originally Posted by KingOfLoss
...that ADZ video. This guy is a complete lunatic. [...] Guaranteed he will end up dead of suicide within a few years...
Leave it out.
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06-18-2016 , 08:49 PM
Looks like he has paranoid schizophrenia. He needs help, to suggest to have him on in this state seems despicable.
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06-18-2016 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
people with schizophrenia dont get better , they get medicated and relapse once they inevitably stop taking there meds. on the other hand though he really doesnt seem that crazy to be honest. his stories are consistant which is unusual for schizophrenia . there probably is truth to his stories. hes prob. not schizo prob manic depressive / paranoid.
You're categorically wrong about people not recovering from schizophrenia. I don't want to go into details but I have first hand experience with it. People who get over the denial that's attached to having a mental illness and get the appropriate treatment have a good chance of recovery. The stigma that's attached to the illness makes people think that if someone has it they will be psychotic forever. It's not true. It's true though that some people go off their medication once they're feeling better, but at the same time some people keep eating terribly after being diagnosed with diabetes. Some people are just stubborn and don't have any insight into their own behavior and unfortunately that's a huge pitfall for those who suffer from schizophrenia. If you have a realistic view of your condition and are willing to work with doctors to find the right medication to treat your symptoms you have a very good chance of recovering. You shouldn't write off people diagnosed with it, they aren't crazy, they're just experiencing deficiencies and those deficiencies can be overcome. It happens all the time, there are healthcare professionals who dedicate their lives to it, you just don't hear about it much.
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06-18-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
his stories are consistant which is unusual for schizophrenia . there probably is truth to his stories. hes prob. not schizo prob manic depressive / paranoid.
I do not have ties to any conspirators or organized crime syndicates as he claims, so at least some of it is delusion.
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06-18-2016 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tomsOn
Looks like he has paranoid schizophrenia. He needs help, to suggest to have him on in this state seems despicable.
I thought about what you said and though usually I would agree with you, I think you are wrong here. He is posting these videos to youtube and clearly wants his voice to be heard.
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06-18-2016 , 10:22 PM
was just reading over ADZ's twitter the other day it seems he's posted some proof that his parents are out to screw him over and that everyone behind the computer screens are jumping to conclusions about his mental health but it could be he's just totally paranoid schizo
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06-18-2016 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tomsOn
Looks like he has paranoid schizophrenia. He needs help, to suggest to have him on in this state seems despicable.
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Originally Posted by unta8
I thought about what you said and though usually I would agree with you, I think you are wrong here. He is posting these videos to youtube and clearly wants his voice to be heard.
This.

Fwiw I have not been one of the people taking the piss out of ADZ since this ordeal started and have actually stuck up for him multiple times in threads that have long since been locked or deleted.

That said it is all very interesting from an outsiders perspective whatever the reason for it. And it would be in no way exploiting Matt as he is actively trying to make sure as many people see/hear him as possible and will continue on doing so with or without the pod. So saying its despicable to want to see this occur in a semi controlled environment with a 2 way conversation if not for anything else but to get some clarity on the situation is pretty ****ing ******ed imo.

I'm also of the mind all you idiots should stop having multiple page arguments about schitzophrenia and causes, turning every thread his name is bought up in into a ****show and derailing whatever is actually being discussed. I know most of you are coming from a good place by doing this but is it really necessary?
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06-18-2016 , 10:40 PM
Not sure if people can recover from schizophrenia, but I hope this thread can recover from AIDS
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06-18-2016 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by walkby
You're categorically wrong about people not recovering from schizophrenia. I don't want to go into details but I have first hand experience with it. People who get over the denial that's attached to having a mental illness and get the appropriate treatment have a good chance of recovery. The stigma that's attached to the illness makes people think that if someone has it they will be psychotic forever. It's not true. It's true though that some people go off their medication once they're feeling better, but at the same time some people keep eating terribly after being diagnosed with diabetes. Some people are just stubborn and don't have any insight into their own behavior and unfortunately that's a huge pitfall for those who suffer from schizophrenia. If you have a realistic view of your condition and are willing to work with doctors to find the right medication to treat your symptoms you have a very good chance of recovering. You shouldn't write off people diagnosed with it, they aren't crazy, they're just experiencing deficiencies and those deficiencies can be overcome. It happens all the time, there are healthcare professionals who dedicate their lives to it, you just don't hear about it much.
ive seen a lifetime of what this disorder does. im no expert by anymeans but having a realistic view of their disorder is like the last thing schizoprrenics have. im sure there are outliers though. but if i had to guess i wouldnt say he has full blown schizophrenia. fwiw.

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
I do not have ties to any conspirators or organized crime syndicates as he claims, so at least some of it is delusion.
i wasnt saying what he said was true ( i would have no idea) i was just saying his stories have a theme and stay relatively the same ( from what ive seen). schizophrenics usually make no sense whatsoever if they can even get coherent sentences out. ( from what ive seen) when there having episodes.
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06-18-2016 , 10:48 PM
btw I'm in no way saying he doesn't have issues I believe in his video he also acknowledges the fact he has issues all I'm saying is this is something he is going to clearly continue publishing to the world by his own choice anyway regardless of if he is on a podcast or not

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Not sure if people can recover from schizophrenia, but I hope this thread can recover from AIDS
This is also a fair point
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06-18-2016 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by unta8
I thought about what you said and though usually I would agree with you, I think you are wrong here. He is posting these videos to youtube and clearly wants his voice to be heard.
Dude, of course he wants to be heard, he believes there's a conspiracy out there and his life is in danger.

Giving him a platform where he can share his delusions with a larger audience is not going to help him get better, it can only make his state worse. It would be morally heinous to try to put a spotlight on him for the poker scene's amusement when he's clearly in a state where he's vulnerable and literally incapable of thinking straight. He has a mental illness and that's never by choice.
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06-18-2016 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
ive seen a lifetime of what this disorder does. im no expert by anymeans but having a realistic view of their disorder is like the last thing schizoprrenics have. im sure there are outliers though. but if i had to guess i wouldnt say he has full blown schizophrenia. fwiw.
When a schizophrenic is actively psychotic, no, they probably don't have a realistic view of their condition. After treatment (which involves intervention and a process where a trained psychiatrist tries to assess which medication will work best) it's 100% within the realm of possibilities that a patient will come to understand what they're experiencing and work towards recovery. Recovery depends on a lot of things, but it happens all the time and like I said in my last post you shouldn't write people off. You said it yourself, you aren't an expert. Asserting that people who have schizophrenia can't get better is irresponsible and wrong. This is my last post concerning this.

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Originally Posted by tomsOn
Giving him a platform where he can share his delusions with a larger audience is not going to help him get better, it can only make his state worse. It would be morally heinous to try to put a spotlight on him for the poker scene's amusement when he's clearly in a state where he's vulnerable and literally incapable of thinking straight. He has a mental illness and that's never by choice.
I agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
i wasnt saying what he said was true ( i would have no idea) i was just saying his stories have a theme and stay relatively the same ( from what ive seen). schizophrenics usually make no sense whatsoever if they can even get coherent sentences out. ( from what ive seen) when there having episodes.
Schizophrenics can have delusions that are consistent.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Not sure if people can recover from schizophrenia, but I hope this thread can recover from AIDS
These posts should be moved to another thread.

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06-19-2016 , 03:40 AM
If you check out his instagram posts over the last year or so it's clear that he is losing it. Not sure if he cleaned it up but last time I checked it was filled with paranoid delusional babble about his parents trying to poison him and Drakes OVO crew trying to mess with him etc etc I wish him well but guy clearly needs help.
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06-19-2016 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by _Loki_
You need to withhold your judgement & your prediction. Especially your prediction. Your ignorant findings are based on a video you watched & other 2nd/3rd-hand information.

You have no basis to write this [below quote] about a guy you've no personal knowledge of: Leave it out.
I'll say what I want buddy. This guy is a lunatic.
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06-19-2016 , 06:59 AM
Papi is 23/119 after day 1 of Event #30 3K PLO
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06-19-2016 , 07:13 AM
Lets go Jose

Tournaments FTW

Last edited by PasswordGotHacked; 06-19-2016 at 07:14 AM. Reason: I didn't mean that last part really
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06-19-2016 , 07:17 AM
I believe ADZ.
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06-19-2016 , 07:43 AM
Good luck Papi!
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06-19-2016 , 09:17 AM
let's see if the podcast rungood is really real!
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06-19-2016 , 09:22 AM
My uncle once got real paranoid and delusional, thinking my grandmother was trying to poison him. That was not so much about schizophrenia as it was just copious amounts of amphetamines. Just fwiw

And podcast rungood ftw imo
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06-19-2016 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
I do not have ties to any conspirators or organized crime syndicates as he claims, so at least some of it is delusion.
But do you know Drake?
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06-19-2016 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Not sure if people can recover from schizophrenia, but I hope this thread can recover from AIDS
Bang Bang
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