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10-13-2015 , 11:35 AM
there are 0 mtt sats for today's $109 knockout, apart from the deadline !!
wtf?!
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10-13-2015 , 12:26 PM
the sats to each KO week event seem to only be added a few hours before the actual event. I guess it's a deliberate ploy to get players to focus on each upcoming event one at a time?

I'd personally rather see multiple sats for each event running every hour all day, but I suspect Luke and the team are looking to drive recreational traffic towards a smaller cluster of big-field satelites that award loads of seats and really boost the target fields. It makes sense tbh, though I'm sure they could still throw us satelite fans a bone by running a few more without detracting from the overall plan.
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10-13-2015 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
yes this is a bit silly..
cant remember why i multiquoted this.... plus one maybe
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Originally Posted by general_jim3
Have all the sunday mill $11+r and 8.8+r turbo sats now gone? Is a pity as they used to do well on Saturdays and especially Sundays. Seems excessive to get rid of all of them.
by performing dismally what does that mean, like 100 seats awarded each sunday in the 4 hours before start?
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Originally Posted by masterxcvt
this 1milion times.
the info tab is very confusing regarding to the places paid.
and the mincashes are worthless and just slow the game down.
at least make the mincash 35-50$ so you have 3-4 places that pay near the bubble not 8-12.
why that reminds me of back in the day when 3r>nightly 162 sats would pay the entire field after addon 3 units if they didnt hit 162,
.....even paid out people who didnt make addon a couple times retroactively
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10-14-2015 , 03:46 PM
this guy sure is doing an awful job with sats, hopefully someone else takes charge of this area
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10-14-2015 , 04:57 PM
no thrill sats tonight? aren't there usually a couple the night before?
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10-14-2015 , 08:14 PM
we need more sats for thrill tomorrow!!!!
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10-15-2015 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by schmette
we need more sats for thrill tomorrow!!!!
QFT. KO WEEK
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10-15-2015 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by schmette
we need more sats for thrill tomorrow!!!!
Again, you replaced the nicely structured 215 Deep Turbo at 19:30CET with the deadline sat, with a structure that every one hates...
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10-15-2015 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
...

And please change the final fpp mega path so it doesnt start during break
As of Monday (19 Oct) the start time will be 14:00. In addition to this, I’ve changed the start times on the Round 1s so that they won’t begin during sync breaks. This will be a nice improvement to the playing experience, so thank you for pointing it out.*

*this change extends to the Nightly $162 as well.

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Originally Posted by roscoe91
can you do the same for the similar $7.5 deep turbo RE to the warm-up?
i don't mind the speed of the structure but it would be nice to have at least 10bb when you late reg or re-enter last minute.
Beginning Monday, all deep turbos will have the "new" (and hopefully final) structure. It begins at 25/50 rather than 10/20. Level 12 is still 500/1,000.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
All the 6 max hyper sats to $27 Daily runs only on mondays, have them run all days.
Are you sure? I've checked the script running these SNGs and I'm unable to find an error. Please check again next week and let me know. SNG satellites are typically deployed on Monday morning IoM time.

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Originally Posted by roscoe91
luke will you fix back the payouts?

this is such a bad system, mincashing 6th-17th for $15 instead of giving 6th place $180 or so. or at the 2xT to knockouts, mincash $11 2nd-19th place instead of giving $200 to 2nd. like
wtf?! who enjoys these?! this is beyond tilting

it's even more tilting to have to deal with your responses on this, basically ignoring everything and when pressured saying "well, it's true there was no positive feedback..", not even acknowledging all the negative feedback from a dozen posts above yours.
I'm sorry that it is tilting, but the reality is we will not agree. Players love to email Support. Support asks us for clarification on many, many issues. I've yet to receive a complaint from a player regarding remainder payments in satellites.

I do think the point mentioned elsewhere regarding multiple bubbles slowing down the game is a fair one. It is not my intention to create a negative experience in that regard. The reduction in time banks and the increase in dealing speed should mitigate this problem.

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Originally Posted by rtspurs
Hi Luke. Are these Friday 8-Game sats gone again? There are only 4 $8+ 3xTurbos that I can see for today...

Was hoping to play one or two freezeout sats today
I've added one to the rotation at 13:02 ET on Fridays. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by roscoe91
i thought it was standard at the 1r1a structure to be able to rebuy at any time.
isn't it so? the sm and swu hyper 1r1a sats won't allow you to rebuy if your stack gets bigger than starting stack.
Will update these right now. Thanks for the shout!

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
by performing dismally what does that mean, like 100 seats awarded each sunday in the 4 hours before start?
Compared to the performance of $7.50 deep turbos and $1.65 3x-turbos, yes, it was dismal.

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Originally Posted by davidv1213
no thrill sats tonight? aren't there usually a couple the night before?
Yes, there's usually some the night before. I'll look into it.

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Originally Posted by vvtinu
Again, you replaced the nicely structured 215 Deep Turbo at 19:30CET with the deadline sat, with a structure that every one hates...
It is a deep turbo structure! Just made bright pink for today, that's all.
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10-15-2015 , 08:05 AM
hey luke,

why did stars change the 2.20$ sunday storm satellites now that winners get a storm ticket instead of the t$11? please change this back! this is a quite important satellite for players with a smaller bankroll which does not allow tournaments with 11$ yet..

thanks!
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10-15-2015 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
It is a deep turbo structure! Just made bright pink for today, that's all.
It appears like this now, thx a lot ! I'm pretty sure last night when I checked it had the new deadline turbo structure used since this year's WCOOP - unless I misclicked or sth, kind of unlikely.
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10-15-2015 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
As of Monday (19 Oct) the start time will be 14:00. In addition to this, I’ve changed the start times on the Round 1s so that they won’t begin during sync breaks. This will be a nice improvement to the playing experience, so thank you for pointing it out.*
tytyty
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10-15-2015 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Are you sure? I've checked the script running these SNGs and I'm unable to find an error. Please check again next week and let me know. SNG satellites are typically deployed on Monday morning IoM time.
Yes 100% sure they only appear on Mondays and rest of the days they don't appear, I ve been seeing this since last 3-4 weeks. You can check it yourself, no hyper sats to daily 27 deployed today.
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10-15-2015 , 11:31 AM
only one 2x-turbo to thrill today? hope that's just a mistake this week

rebuy
turbo rebuy
4x turbo
reg speed deep

all good sat formats and 0 of any of them
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10-15-2015 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv1213
only one 2x-turbo to thrill today? hope that's just a mistake this week

rebuy
turbo rebuy
4x turbo
reg speed deep

all good sat formats and 0 of any of them
also pretty disappointed with the way the thrill sats have turned out. just 1x 109 reg speed freezeout..
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10-15-2015 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
also pretty disappointed with the way the thrill sats have turned out. just 1x 109 reg speed freezeout..
should be 3-5 of these thursday spread through the morning and maybe 1-2 wednesday night to go with wednesday 320 sats and event
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10-15-2015 , 04:15 PM
Finally. Ty for new deep turbos
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10-15-2015 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke

I'm sorry that it is tilting, but the reality is we will not agree. Players love to email Support. Support asks us for clarification on many, many issues. I've yet to receive a complaint from a player regarding remainder payments in satellites.
I am sure if the prize pool is 3 seats and 4th place taking 180$, there will be no complains either. In fact, it's more likely the player, who takes 180$ to register the target paying himself for 25$ more.
Keep the more places paid only for live events as people cashing the remaining amount are less likely to direct buy-in after that (considering they also have to travel for the target event).
It used to be like that for years, I can't even think of why it was changed.


On a side note thanks for removing 10/20 in the deep sats !
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10-15-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
I'm sorry that it is tilting, but the reality is we will not agree. Players love to email Support. Support asks us for clarification on many, many issues. I've yet to receive a complaint from a player regarding remainder payments in satellites.
email sent
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10-15-2015 , 05:33 PM
emailed. did not realise that emailing stars support was the best way to offer feedback on satellite changes. *checks thread title*
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10-15-2015 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Erebgil_bg
I am sure if the prize pool is 3 seats and 4th place taking 180$, there will be no complains either. In fact, it's more likely the player, who takes 180$ to register the target paying himself for 25$ more.
Keep the more places paid only for live events as people cashing the remaining amount are less likely to direct buy-in after that (considering they also have to travel for the target event).
It used to be like that for years, I can't even think of why it was changed.


On a side note thanks for removing 10/20 in the deep sats !
Pretty much this, Why on earth would you alter something that has had no complaints about? "Why change something that isn't broken?" Comes to mind.
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10-15-2015 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
email sent
Can u copy and paste this for all us lazy people
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10-15-2015 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by keitho1986
Can u copy and paste this for all us lazy people
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Originally Posted by keitho1986
Can u copy and paste this for all us lazy people
to: support@pokerstars.co.uk

Hi

For some reason you appear to be splitting the bubble payments in satelites into tiny pieces. Please stop doing this; it's stupid and annoying.

For example, today I witnessed a $1.65 rebuy satelite (tournament #1342809915) to the Sunday Million which had 165 entrants and a total prizepool of $1702.50. The average buyin for this tournament was obviously just over $10. It awarded 7 seats to the Million ($215 each, so a total of $1505) which left a remainder of $197.50. Whereas previously this $197.50 would have been paid to the 8th placed finisher, today I watched with a combination of horror and confusion as places 8-18 received $16.50 each and the 19th placed finisher received $16.

I very much doubt that any of the players who finished between 8th and 19th were particularly happy with their $5 or so profit after 4 hours of play, but you know this already. I realise that in the ideal world all tournament prize pools would be split equally between all players (after rake, of course) so that everyone would go bust slowly and Pokerstars could gradually bleed us all to death, but since some of us players do actually still have functioning brains it'd be nice if you were at least a little less obvious about it.

I would respectfully ask you to reconsider this recent change to your satelite payout structures as I'm sure you can think of more subtle, creative ways to squeeze every last cent out of the online poker community. For example, last year you tripled the rake on hyper mtts for a few days and hundreds of players still happily signed up for the $82 6-max without so much as a blink of the eye. Let's see more ideas like that, so the few remaining players who actually think about what they're spending their money on before clicking REGISTER can at least take solace in the fact that it's just all the other mugs who are getting fleeced.

Thanks for reading!

Yours with love,

xxxx
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10-15-2015 , 08:46 PM
here is my more ambiguous one, although it doesnt make much sense to just spam them with the same email. would be more efficient to just create a poll thread and email them the results lol

Spoiler:
Hello,

Recently a large amount of satellites had their payout structure changed so that the remainder money is distributed in very small amounts.

I would like to send an email expressing my distaste for this change. I much prefer the old payouts.

Regards
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10-15-2015 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
I'm sorry that it is tilting, but the reality is we will not agree. Players love to email Support. Support asks us for clarification on many, many issues. I've yet to receive a complaint from a player regarding remainder payments in satellites.
you just completely disregarded at least 8 individual posters disagreeing with the new payouts, but hey, no negative emails so it's all good.

must be nice to chose when feedback from here or from emails is more important.
if a post is supportive of some change or has suggestions you don't disagree with, consider it, else let's wait for relevant emails.

quite convenient but also unprofessional, imo.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:44:58 AM
To: support@pokerstars.eu (support@pokerstars.eu)

Hi,
I played some of the €1.65 3x-T sats (for the €82 qualifier) and i noticed the prizes are not distributed as in the other similar sattelites (like the ones for the sunday million or for EPT qualifiers). In my opinion you should consider changing the prize payouts following the example of the other sattelites.
(i can only guess that it's a different department for the Eureka tours, otherwise it doesn't make sense since they are all Pokerstars tournaments!)

Considering the prizes, the sattelites give a ticket to the target tournament for every €82 in the prizepool and the rest is payed in €10 (or less) for every other player making it in the money. But this min-cash is practically pointless for the players, since a 3x-T usually costs an average of 8 rebuys (1.65 buy-in + 1.5 addon + 8x1.5 rebuys = 15.15), which means that a cash of €10 won't even cover for the cost of the tournament.

Two alternative payouts:
1. one ticket for every €82 in the prizepool and the rest payed at the next player itm.
2. one ticket for every €82 in the prizepool and the rest payed at sums of x€ for every other player that is itm, where x should be at least €20 in my opinion.

The first payout structure is probably the best since that is what most of your own sattelites (i mean Pokerstars's sats) use, but the second is a good alternative in case you want to have more places paid (making it more enticing for certain players).
^this is an actual email i've send to support when i first started playing satellites. i send two more for the same payouts issue but the same automated responses "thanks for feedback, will pass along etc" got old and so i got into 2+2. it should count for your records.

cheers
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