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08-26-2014 , 08:15 PM
Daily $82 deep stack to Super Tuesday and a $40 to Sunday 500 wud be nice.
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08-26-2014 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by keitho1986
Daily $82 deep stack to Super Tuesday and a $40 to Sunday 500 wud be nice.
+1
Good idea
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08-27-2014 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by schmette
The Wcop Sat 3,85+ stuctur is a complete fail .
Startstack ist 1k+1k and the Addon is adter 1h where the blinds are 1k/2k with an Addon of only 1,5k chips. Either change the structure. male a much bigger Addon like 15k or so or the addon after 30 Minutes with 3k addon.
I noticed this offering to WCOOP 19 and I agree that it needs to be drastically changed.
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08-28-2014 , 02:39 AM
Whats the point of running satellites of unpopular mixed games like 2-7 SD at this time(02:30 ET)? Why cant they run after 09:30 ET when more players are online? Tomorrow its going to run much earlier at 23:48 ET(WCOOP -17 Sat) and again it will get cancelled. Bryan please make sure these sats of unpopular games are run during peak time after 09:30 ET and not daily random time
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08-28-2014 , 03:26 AM
^^^And not or imo
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08-30-2014 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Also, it's like a month to go until WCOOP, there's no need to have THREE of every satellite in the lobby. One of each would be fine.

The benefits of this are:
  1. Recs are less intimidated because regulars wont need to open sit as many games
  2. Recs are able to find the games they want to play more easily as the lobby is less crowded
  3. Regulars can load games more easily as there will be less games they need to register in the lobby

By all means make sure there are THREE to every MTT within THREE hours of the MTT starting. Obviously the Sunday Million needs 3 all week due to it's popularity, but most sats would be better only arriving in the lobby 3-5 hours before the target MTT imo.
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
I tend to agree with most of what you wrote, and will be passing it along to the person responsible for managing our WCOOP S&G satellite portfolio. Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful analysis, it's greatly appreciated.
No changes to anything? Who is managing the WCOOP S&G satellite portfolio?
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08-31-2014 , 04:33 AM
There was recently a $425 satellite to ANZPT Auckland that requires 4 people to start. At the time it was meant to start 2 people were registered so it was cancelled. Now there were feeder satellites running that would have forced at least 4 more people to play. This just doesn't seem quite right.

I know it is not a simple fix but knowing there are enough people winning must play seats to meet the min and then cancelling is a bit frustrating, I'm sure the 2 guys registered in it at the start would not be adverse to the tournament being auto paused for half an hour. This is certainly better than missing out on something that only happens once a week.
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08-31-2014 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gollyheck
There was recently a $425 satellite to ANZPT Auckland that requires 4 people to start. At the time it was meant to start 2 people were registered so it was cancelled. Now there were feeder satellites running that would have forced at least 4 more people to play. This just doesn't seem quite right.

I know it is not a simple fix but knowing there are enough people winning must play seats to meet the min and then cancelling is a bit frustrating, I'm sure the 2 guys registered in it at the start would not be adverse to the tournament being auto paused for half an hour. This is certainly better than missing out on something that only happens once a week.
This is a tour that actually uses an optimal super sat finish time technique. The problem is there's just not enough players in this region online for this price point. Yeah it sucks for the 2 players but keeping the min entrants at 4 is very important for a few reasons.
What this tour needs to do if it intends to grow is tie in deposit bonuses with a free satellite ticket and attempt to incorporate fpp sats similar to the Lapt tour.
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08-31-2014 , 02:51 PM
We need $74 sats to the WCOOP-03 $215 Sunday Million in the lobby ASAP please?
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08-31-2014 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
This is a tour that actually uses an optimal super sat finish time technique. The problem is there's just not enough players in this region online for this price point. Yeah it sucks for the 2 players but keeping the min entrants at 4 is very important for a few reasons.
What this tour needs to do if it intends to grow is tie in deposit bonuses with a free satellite ticket and attempt to incorporate fpp sats similar to the Lapt tour.
You are right in what you say and I am not suggesting lowering the minimum amount of players required but having a small amount of players makes it even more important to have the satellite go off when there are in fact enough people willing to play it to generate a seat to the main event. This not happening also has a negative effect on the live tournament itself.
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08-31-2014 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gollyheck
You are right in what you say and I am not suggesting lowering the minimum amount of players required but having a small amount of players makes it even more important to have the satellite go off when there are in fact enough people willing to play it to generate a seat to the main event. This not happening also has a negative effect on the live tournament itself.
I hear you as this type of offering shouldn't be cancelled and any gaming company should view turning away willing players as a sin. Had the tourney being delayed the sats would have ended and this would have generated a seat at the least. Although most players likely wouldn't mind, delaying the tourney isn't the answer as there will always be that one guy who doesn't agree to it + there's a backdoor angle that the site would have to be prepared to deal with if pre regging players were allowed to unreg after the tourney was put on hold.

I sort of follow all the tours on Stars and the ANZPT is sort of a weird one. On the plus side they've managed to work the timed sat theory better than any other tour except they've forgotten the anchor part of the equation. To ensure these cancelled tourneys are an extreme rarity they need to add more offerings to the mix leading up to the target tourney while maintaining the precise end time expectation that they currently are using better then any other tour. To fulfill the anchor part of the formula (having the min pre regged players) they need to use FPP mega sats and must play fpp rebuys to the $425/$320 target sat. This being a low drawing tourney, it's imperative to secure the min players ahead of time.

Online sats are the foundation to running good Live Events and it's a shame that some people are too closed minded to more efficient ideas. As an extreme example the Montreal $3300 offering this past Spring ate a 200k overlay which I attribute to abysmal sat offerings/not following my advice.

Last edited by Sect7G; 08-31-2014 at 07:12 PM.
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09-01-2014 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
We need $74 sats to the WCOOP-03 $215 Sunday Million in the lobby ASAP please?
Still this.

2 to the Warm Up and 3 to the Million would be ideal.
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09-01-2014 , 08:23 PM
sat schedule dies on sundays from 3pm ET onwards, can you improve it with adding more x2/x3 sats for majors in the next week/sunday?

the fpp x2 sats for wcoop event 1 are nice, can you add some x2 and x3 sats for the other events too?
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09-02-2014 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
I think it's high time we seen some Deep or at least NON turbo satellites to the Biggers/Hotters.
One thing important to understand about satellites is that we decide what to run based on popularity of the satellite type first and foremost.... so there are a lot of turbos, 2x-turbos, and 3x-turbos. Having said that, given the recent successes of Deep satellites, I don't see any reason that we can't try some for the daily Bigs. I'll add some soon.

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Originally Posted by schmette
The Wcop Sat 3,85+ stuctur is a complete fail .
Startstack ist 1k+1k and the Addon is adter 1h where the blinds are 1k/2k with an Addon of only 1,5k chips. Either change the structure. male a much bigger Addon like 15k or so or the addon after 30 Minutes with 3k addon.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Modifications are on the way.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
Whats the point of running satellites of unpopular mixed games like 2-7 SD at this time(02:30 ET)? Why cant they run after 09:30 ET when more players are online? Tomorrow its going to run much earlier at 23:48 ET(WCOOP -17 Sat) and again it will get cancelled. Bryan please make sure these sats of unpopular games are run during peak time after 09:30 ET and not daily random time
Another great comment, thank you. The rotation has been altered for future deployments to avoid putting "niche" games at bad times for them.

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Originally Posted by the_bridler
the fpp x2 sats for wcoop event 1 are nice, can you add some x2 and x3 sats for the other events too?
Certainly... some more will be on the way relatively soon, definitely for Event 19 but perhaps sooner.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
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09-03-2014 , 06:10 AM
please look back through your records and find out if a low bi 3xt sat has overlayed this year

once you confirm they havent, why not remove the silly min entrants 9 that prevents games from generating a couple seats because theyre canceled
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09-03-2014 , 06:24 AM
Please post ITT when these deep Big Satellites arrive.

Also, how about a $215 deep to the WCOOO Super Tuesday?
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09-03-2014 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
please look back through your records and find out if a low bi 3xt sat has overlayed this year

once you confirm they havent, why not remove the silly min entrants 9 that prevents games from generating a couple seats because theyre canceled
Changing it to 6 min would make sense and very likely wouldn't cause any unintended consequences.
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09-03-2014 , 08:33 AM
You need to fix the feeder sats for ANZPTs so they run instead of getting cancelled with 3 runners or whatever

Easy fix is you can't win the tournament until late registration finishes. If you stack everyone, you just sit there and win upon completion of latereg, or the tournament continues when more people reg. Tournament can start with 1 player, you just sit there until someone else registers (or feeder sat finishes)

I've mentioned this to Danny before and I think he liked the idea but you'd need the functionality in Stars software.
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09-03-2014 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
You need to fix the feeder sats for ANZPTs so they run instead of getting cancelled with 3 runners or whatever

Easy fix is you can't win the tournament until late registration finishes. If you stack everyone, you just sit there and win upon completion of latereg, or the tournament continues when more people reg. Tournament can start with 1 player, you just sit there until someone else registers (or feeder sat finishes)

I've mentioned this to Danny before and I think he liked the idea but you'd need the functionality in Stars software.
The problem with this is a legitimate player who starts the tourney at the beginning is prepared to play vs. 1 or 1000 players for that matter if need be, and is putting his buy in up with that expectation. It's not fair to him nor is it in the interest of Poker to allow a late regging angle shooter to jump in at the last min of late registration due to a 1k overlay etc.

Assuming it's a good structure target tourney there's nothing wrong with having the super sats run until after the start time as this forces people to play and not unreg. What they need to do is fill the anchor part of the equation. To get the min 3 or 4 players in such a poor online drawing tour they will may have to extend what they've done for the APPT tour with added value sats and a complex labyrinth of fpp sats.
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09-03-2014 , 10:10 AM
Last year you made it so that there were satellites to the PCA in both € and $ (iirc?).

Any chance you can do something like that for UKIPT?

I'd like to use the € steps to qualify, but the £ currency means I pretty much am limited to the very few Players Choice games.
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09-03-2014 , 01:39 PM
Any idea where the $7.25 DS 36 man satties with 1x $215 seat have gone from the lobby?
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09-03-2014 , 03:36 PM
With regards to ANZPT satellites. What do you guys think about running an additional satellite at a different time, that is closer to peak, with the major $425 going off sometime around the Big 27.50 with the feeder satellites running for the hours leading up to this? I realise this could have a negative effect as well but most NZ grinders that would want to be playing just aren't going to be playing at 8pm on a Sunday night when the major Sunday stuff is coming up in 6-8 hours. This could also encourage more Euro/Canadian/Brazilian involvement.
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09-03-2014 , 04:00 PM
EPT London 215 2x chance sat starting at 23.05 GMT today. Very, very late considering the structure for everyone in Europe which is surely the target audience. Don't understand putting it in that timeslot.
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09-04-2014 , 09:20 AM
I agree with David, why are so many of the London sats starting at such late times? I'd like to see more EPT sats that begin several hours earlier.
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09-04-2014 , 10:37 AM
Agree with ^^^ plus lower the requirement for starting field, they got cancelled too often considering how many people usually use the 2chanche
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