also 27 for sm/wu, 55 for s500 and 109 for ST/TT. It is a win/win situation

I was just queued up to a play a $70 36 man double shootout hyper for scoop 18-H but you guys cancelled the game when like 20 people were in the lobby, then instantly reopened the same lobby. This happens quite a bit. With the higher stakes double shootouts sometimes it takes awhile for the lobby to fill. When you guys keep cancelling the games it really kills the action because 75% of the field won't instantly re-reg and it drags out the loading process even more.

I notice this satty is for a shootout thats capped at 216 players, but there was only about 190 players in when you guys cancelled the satty. This glitch also happens for games that aren't anywhere near their main event cap

This.

For tomorrows 4-max SCOOP they are running 3xs with 4 people per table max. The average buy in to make it to the add on for 3 players on every table might go as high as 20-30. This is totally unacceptable for the recreational player who registers. This is not to my benefit as the more people that don't make the add on the better for me... but this negative experience for a player that regs in these $2 3xs thinking it might cost him $10 or maybe $20 bucks if he's unlucky and to find that it's going to cost him a quarter of the actual buy in will leave him with a bad taste in his mouth. Many will quit rebuying (good for me, bad for him) and others might never try these games again due to the experience of finally making the add on to lose on the next shove hand.

The argument that you want to keep the sats inline with the target tourney format is absurd as it's obvious there are rebuys in these (not the target tourney) and it's obvious the structure/blind levels/starting stacks are all also totally different. Keep it simple with a generic 3x type and I couldn't care whether you choose the SM format or the Pacific Rim format. Just be consistent.

+1 to sect7g, but dont slow down x3 sats, getting silly seeing all turbo games slowing down

agree with this at every point.

posted on april 19th

id infinitely rather play three $10 4max hyper freezeouts to the 4max tomorrow morning instead of each 4x turbo

and those options about the same cost in my estimation but i play more events if more hypers are spread in general

Personally i would rather play a 9 handed nlhe 3x to any target variant. I can see why this may not be popular tho.

Agree 3xers don't work as 4/6max, can get ridic expensive. Also sucks for multi tabling

Real tired of 3x turbos why are there next to no other sats to scoop highs

Would rather play the turbo deep ones

+1 to everyone. I find it super annoying that almost all the SCOOP satellites are in 3x-turbo format. I think even the regular 9-handed structure is awful for recreational players. The rebuy period is way too long, the tournaments take too much attention having to be all in nearly every hand, and an inexperienced player is not going to anticipate having to rebuy 10+ times just to have an average stack of 2bb at the end of the rebuy period.

I would like to see more regular turbo and hyper-turbo satellites to all of the events. Turbo rebuys (with say 10-30 min rebuy period) would be great too. Playing the 2x- and 3x-turbos is just a really irritating experience.

+1

$20 hyper rd 1>$200 hyper rd 2>$2100

would also be faster than 3x turbos for literally every player who played the entire path even those who win feature event seats

+1000

I would much prefer 3 or 4 rounds of hypers as mentioned above - the 3x turbo format is horrible.

but i do also have to say 3x turbos for all the NLHE highs all over the place, but why so little love for other games, that's the one spot there has been a huge lack of them or any acceptable path to win high seats.

the shot takers want to take shots, and the pros buying in direct want shot takers in the fields



11r3x >2100/1050 omaha/o8 and similar have generated seats in previous *COOPs, but this type of more widely accessible offering/pricing is (almost?) completely omitted so far this scoop.


example, the 3.30>530 omaha/o8 3x turbos and 11rs that run on low traffic Mondays/Wednesdays year round generate lots of seats weekly for the 530 omaha reds


but for the 700 5 card plo a less than 50% higher buyin, why are you running significantly pricier ratios..
27r/11r2xt/7.5r3xt/102+fo ...thats the pricing for 1ks
when you should be running
15-20r/7.5r2xt/3-4.5r3xt/82fo+ to 700s, (btw, this is how the 700 ultra deep sats are priced)


theres basically 0 properly and very few affordably priced sats to 1ks or better for non hold em games except for a few 4r3xts ive seen (which are actually too cheap! lol should be 7.5/8.8s)


rd 1s to the terrible 700 deadlines are all 162fo+ (i dont want to have to rely on ****ty structured deadline sats at the last minute anyways to find out if i get to shot-take. but they are 100% non options at the moment ....and more importantly, theres no alternative route????)


for mid/hs holdem players a 2100 could easily be a days buyins, easier to splash out and direct buy in

the people who focus on non hold em variants might struggle to put that volume in in 3 days because theres just not as much to play.

other games aficionados are the ones most helped by satellite options to let us play events that cost far more than we could ever possibly register in a normal weekday and the ones hurt the most when stars opts to price us out of different styles of satellite offerings


please give the guys who love less mainstream variants some more options in the 2nd half of the series

they still exist at least for some events

Weekly 6max last chance hyper sat $10 nlhe 10 minutes from now....

are these "ultra deep" and similar really popular amongst players? think the general idea is fine but in both MTTs and satellites starting with 1000bb or more is just unnecessary, playing 10/20 with 20k or 50k stacks is pretty pointless unless specifically a decent number of players (and I mostly mean recs here) actually enjoy it.

They just have that part to try to justify the rake being 3.5x hyper rake

If u will not run the million this week ( lol not having the most famous online tournament )
just put 3x sats for WU EVERY HOUR, like the milly sattys.

xx:39 1,65r 3x turbo.

I feel like there ought to be waaaayyyyy more regspeed deep sats to the main events (all levels). I for one would happily mass-table these things all day, and I'm sure there are plenty of satelite fans with way more heart than me!

Also in the absence of the usual $1.65r 3xt million sats this week you could just fill their time slot with 3x sats to the $109 main, they would get hundreds of runners every hour for sure.

or at least fill those empty spaces with upcoming days events, lookin pretty sparse out there


(what a terrific time to trial 6m rd1/2 hyper paths to Hs)

The 2x-Turbos and 3x-Turbos are as predominant as they are because they're as popular as they are; it really is that simple. For each event that runs, each set of satellites that runs, I have a detailed spreadsheet of all of the satellites that have run for it, which ones have run the most, produced the most seats, had the most players, etc. In some cases, the most popular type for a particular target *isn't* a 3x-Turbo, and something else is run most often in the lead-up to the event. Having said that, it is quite often that the most popular, the most successful variant is the 3x-Turbo... quite possibly because of the relatively cheap cost of initial entry.

Good ideas, both. Thx!

some deep turbos for main event would be nice too

5r x3 sats every hour to the main please and reduce min entrants to 5 or 7 so they run

hourly x3 fpp sats to the sunday 8 max event please (medium event)

5k fpp to 1k ME, please! Add one seat, like u do for platinum+ in sundays for SM.