Nice poast Asj.

Stars should love that it's like a never ending rake circle.

Hey Bryan, remember how everyone was complaining when you put those 3xT with rebuys ending at the 6/12K during the last coop? how about stop using that crappy structure then?

+1. also, with this structure you easily end up rebuying 5-7 times which makes it even more expensive.

Totally agree

The 215quad to the aussie millions main that ran today at 7am NZT (1pm ET?) was super juicey for a random weekday.
There haven't been many in this timeslot (or at all?), i'm gonna assume it was there because the earlier one couldn't run due to the server restart.
Would you consider putting a bunch (tuesday thursday saturday and sunday sound like good days) at that exact slot throughout the week and see if they continue to pull similar numbers?
Cheers

what's up with the deadlines sats for all the special knockouts? why are they so expensive [small target/sat ratio]??
i thought the deadlines were supposed to give a chance to players that didn't qualify yet to get in the target tour, and usually the lower stakes players. someone who can afford a $33 turbo satellite (more like hyper btw), can probably afford to pay the $109 anyway, for a special event. same with the $16.5 deadline compared to the $55 target.
someone with a $10 abi, will only be able to play the $11 events and deadlines for the $27 only. imo they should be able to play deadline for the $55-109, which is easily achieved with a ~1:10 buy-in ratio.

just for comparison, the deadline sat for SM is a $11 one. During the last SCOOP, there was a $27 deadline for the $215 warm-up, a $82 for a $1050 target, etc. see the difference in ratios?

on the one hand, you go and put these deadlines with the 1:3 ratio and on the other hand, your main sats right now are the $1 2xTs, that are a 1:75 seat/players ratio! (i guess these could be worse, like $1 freezouts or sth)
i can only explain these $1 dollar sats (like your $1 FO for the #1billion last week) as a means to be able to say "qualify now for as little as $1", but come on, these can't be your main feeder sats and i can't imagine you're always waiting for the regs responses/suggestions each time (you've got plenty of red events with their sats as set examples).

While we disagree on the nature of Re-Entry tournaments, I will say that for next week's satellite system to the Thursday Thrill, I have added a new variety of $82 Deep Turbo, one without re-entries being available, and it is this flavor of $82 Deep Turbo to which we'll be running satellites. I hope that you enjoy the satellites. Thank you for providing feedback.

We have run satellites in the past which pay out only entry tickets to specific tournaments... or more to the point, I should say that we have created the tournaments... they didn't run.

We don't have the ability to create a satellite which combines an entry to a tournament but then also pays out tickets to the later finishing places. We'll probably just go with a 6-player Step 4 to the Super Tuesday & Thursday Thrill.

Well ****, you have INF offerings in the sng lobby that doesn't run so what the hell is on more? asjbaaaf and i are playing like 24/7 and we'll both just open sit anytime we're logged, I couldn't fathom these not running some on Tues/Thurs and on weekends

Allow me to be more clear. We created such tournaments to the most popular weekly tournament in the history of online poker, the Sunday Million, and they didn't run. It's possible, though I'm not completely certain of this, that they literally did not run a single time in the months that they existed. I believe that we can create Step options for people to get into the Super Tuesday and the Thursday Thrill which give people considerably more freedom of action (and are therefore more attractive) and which will put plenty of people into seats at the $1,050 tables.

Okay yea I understand, the step SNG tab really doesn't get much action outside of the COOPs from what I remember, at least at the $215s+ (I only toss them in during COOPs now myself). I am happy to help try to promote/try to make a new offering run though if you do get something to the $1k's in the lobby, whether it be a direct turbo/reg speed stt satellite or something like a step and I know asjbaaaf will be as well.

well you've piqued my interest Bryan, looking forward to checking them out

Bryan forgot to mention he also added non re-entry hyper turbo deep rd1s too? one time!
Bryan forgot to mention he also added non re-entry hyper turbo deep rd1s too? one time!
Bryan forgot to mention he also added non re-entry hyper turbo deep rd1s too? one time!
Bryan forgot to mention he also added non re-entry hyper turbo deep rd1s too? one time!

As just one example of what's to come next Thursday, this was set up earlier today...

(tournaments listed in reverse chronological order to show satellite path...)

14:00 ET -- $1,050 Thursday Thrill [Guarantee TBD]
13:15 ET -- $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Turbo, Deep]
13:10 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo]
13:00 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo]
12:50 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo, Deep]

There will be no re-entries available in any of the above. There are re-entries in other satellites to the Thursday Thrill, but there are three distinct paths, two leading to $82 Deep Turbos and one leading to a $109 non-turbo freezeout, which do not contain re-entries at all. Those who enjoy (or don't mind) re-entries and those who prefer not to play in re-entry tournaments each have something to play to get into the new addition on Thursdays.

first of all, let me just say that i wish there was more of this

i think this may be the only time outside upcoming *coop schedule announcement threads ive ever seen the specifics posted in advance of an upcoming change

this offers a chance for some discussion and troubleshooting, all these tournament suggestion threads would have been far more effective at achieving their purpose with more back and forth like this (at least in ascertaining what 2+2 members want)

Yo Bryan, Chuck the 9 man STEP to $1050 MTT in for 7 days next week. if 20 ofem dont run i'll pay the overlay myself.

i dont want to get too bogged down in the scheduling specifics, but this is a 1k knockout, stars has a bad rep for scheduling mega sats and the like too close to the beginning of an event

13:15 ET -- $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Turbo, Deep]

if this satelite is identical to the turbo deeps of the past, having 60 minutes of late reg, and it is beginning 40 minutes of gameplay prior to the start of the target.... id expect some ranting

if this satelite ends after the first break of the target tournament, and i expect it will, it basically guarantees that the majority of players will have you covered, which is a terrible thing in a PKO



12:50 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo, Deep]


and ditto here

this game, if it is identical to the early wcoop non re entry hyper turbo deeps will almost always last just over 40 minutes of game play (42/43 minutes imo not inc break)

there are 15 minutes of gameplay between this sat and the target, about 15 minutes at minimum too few


13:10 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo]
13:00 ET -- $7.50 Rd 1 Satellite to $82 Satellite to Thursday Thrill [Hyper-Turbo]

these sound like 500 chippers so for my taste ive just got the one sub sat in this path

im sure you will get some people desperately hopping in these 500 chip hypers eager to try to get into a new exciting offering, but these are pretty awful sch games, 6m theyd be almost palatable but still, meh








the HT/HTdeep sats that ran during wcoop, looked very close if not identical from one another and some differentiation would go a long way

a customer needed to open up the lobby, to find out if the game was 500 or 10,000 starting stack and the favoriting overlapped, i hope that has all been fixed tho, but i cant recall with certainty



i think it would be appropriate to go a step further and add/change the speed column to include D-Hyper, S-Hyper for Deep Hyper and Short stack Hyper

far more appropriately categorized as their own speeds rather than grouped together, apples and oranges as far as who they will appeal to

As I mentioned, just one example... there are three such paths leading up to the Thrill. At 11:15, 12:15, and 13:15... I just happened to list the 13:15 one.

FYI, the new satellite scheme to the Wednesday Hundred Grand is now completely in place and set to go for next week. You can see it in the client if you put 'Wedn Hund' in your text filter. I may yet add some Round 1s to either the $82s or $27s or both. Some may notice with alarm that the guarantee on the $3.30+R 3x-Turbos has gone down from 3 seats to 2 seats per satellite. This is a necessary precaution due to the increase in frequency of satellites and the additional spread of satellite types into a compressed time period. As the new scheme takes hold and we get a sense of how things shake out, seat guarantees will be adjusted, raising as necessary/sustainable. (I may also change some of the $3.30 3x-Turbos to 2x-Turbos, maybe at $8.80... feedback welcome/requested!) There some other small changes which you may notice, such as linking to the target tournament in the lobby message, etc. Thanks again for the feedback on this one.

Next up: non-turbo satellites to the daily Bigs.

Edit: the revised scheme for the Thursday Thrill is also up, including the 3x-Turbos with their new (edited) structure... see Level 18 for details, and thanks again for the feedback.

The ko week x2 sats should be changed to x3, not enough seats are created, or at least increase the buyin( example last one 114 entrants, 1 seat won , 2nd-17th paid $11 each)

If you look at entrants between x2 and x3, x3 are far more popular so i think its best to keep the wed hund sats as x3

Also apart from sundays, x2 sats to the warmup numbers are not great(on the decline).I think you should consider changing them to x3 and then on sunday run x3 and x2 sats

And again, would be nice to see x2/x3 fpp sats.Options are not great when it comes to spending fpps

I really like the format of the 6m turbo 2x-shootout FPP sats to the sunday storm. Any chance we can get these for the sunday million?

We currently have 375 FPP 6-Max Double Shootouts to the Sunday Million, though they're Turbos and they only award 1 seat. If we were to offer FPP Hypers to the Million which were the same format as those for the Sunday Storm (6-Max Hyper DS awarding 5 seats), they'd be significantly more expensive. 1,875 FPP would get 5 seats into the pool in a 36-player Double Shootout to the Sunday Million.

How about a 750 FPP 6-Max Hyper-Turbo Double Shootout S&G which awards 2 seats to the Sunday Million? There would be no remainder, so places 3rd through 6th would end up with nothing. Alternatively, we could try out 1,125 FPP 6-Max Hyper-Turbo Double Shootout S&G... they'd award 3 seats. I'm not sure how such satellites would work in terms of getting people to play them, but I see no harm in trying them out and seeing how they do.

What do others think? Which of the above would you most likely play?

1125fpp 6-max hyperturbo double shootout sounds like the best option out of those to me.

+1.

any chance you could change the 27t sats to the 320sko to deep ones from the current 1500 chips? there are no decent non rebuy sats for this tournament except the raketraps and so far the deep sats are quite popular

How about those VIP Bash satellites which I asked earlier and received no reply? VIP page informs that they should be monthly, yet none was scheduled in November and can't see any scheduled in December either.

It might be a great way to promote Thursday Thrill to new players by making a VIP Bash satellite to that. And just to compensate missing VIP Bash from November you could still run a VIP Bash satellite to $5M special Sunday Million.