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Dean Bryden/bogan4life stole 6K+ in charity funds. (Charity money now rcvd from dean) Dean Bryden/bogan4life stole 6K+ in charity funds. (Charity money now rcvd from dean)

03-26-2013 , 01:27 AM
It's the fact that you Google search 'Dean Bryden' and it shows up highly, I'm sure there will be copies in places, but they're not ranked highly in google. Thus removing this thread and the website would mean googling Dean Bryden would show up clean.
03-26-2013 , 02:29 AM
The algorithms used by search engines - most notably Google - determine what content shows when and where. Specific keyword strings like "Dean Bryden background" or "Dean Bryden employment history" or "Dean Bryden Australia" aren't going to disappear from Google and it's improbable that they will rank poorly.

The easiest way to prove this is to simply Google something from long ago, such as "Eric Conti poker"
03-26-2013 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GizYaChips
This is crazy. How is it a no brainer?

If he hopefully clears his debt, he will have a clean name to those who don't see this thread if the site is taken down. Then he can go off and do the same thing to other people for larger sums of money.

The website 100% has to stay up IMO. His background, his scams and (hopefully) his repayments to those he scammed all have to be on the site.

If a man does jail-time, he has a record against his name. This is no different IMO.

Can't believe people would let him get off this easily by taking the one thing he is scared of down from the internet and let him have some sort of 'rep' again.
heh already addressed this and going to stop debating the site now

The overall lack of communication and the way this has been handled by him so far is quite pitiful and hopefully he starts changing that first.
03-26-2013 , 05:06 AM
^ Sorry if it came across as aggro-opinion. Didn't mean it that way.
03-26-2013 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
The algorithms used by search engines - most notably Google - determine what content shows when and where. Specific keyword strings like "Dean Bryden background" or "Dean Bryden employment history" or "Dean Bryden Australia" aren't going to disappear from Google and it's improbable that they will rank poorly.

The easiest way to prove this is to simply Google something from long ago, such as "Eric Conti poker"
this post added DEAN BRYDEN AUSTRALIA STOLE MONEY DO NOT EMPLOY BACKROUND CHECK to google

POKER CHEATER STOLE MY JOB
03-26-2013 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GizYaChips
^ Sorry if it came across as aggro-opinion. Didn't mean it that way.
Nah it didn't, all good
03-26-2013 , 08:30 AM
Lol, I assumed there was a significant difference between an active and cached site.
03-26-2013 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
The algorithms used by search engines - most notably Google - determine what content shows when and where. Specific keyword strings like "Dean Bryden background" or "Dean Bryden employment history" or "Dean Bryden Australia" aren't going to disappear from Google and it's improbable that they will rank poorly.

The easiest way to prove this is to simply Google something from long ago, such as "Eric Conti poker"
Sorry but you're wrong, if the website gets deleted it will stop being cached and won't rank anymore, you can see that any mirrors of this thread or the website don't show up anywhere just by googling them.

Your example doesn't make much sense, because that twoplustwo thread wasn't deleted...
03-26-2013 , 02:03 PM
this is a moot discussion atm, as there's no immediate sign of Dean either repaying the charity or communicating sufficiently to resolve the other private disputes. But if he does get his **** together and make everyone whole, I'd be pretty appalled if the site stayed up. The argument that future employers deserve to know his history is quite disingenuous imo, it's clearly a case of punishing the scammer rather than protecting the innocent. And like I said, it's nobody's place to determine what sort of "sentence" is appropriate except the law's.
03-26-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
The argument that future employers deserve to know his history is quite disingenuous imo, it's clearly a case of punishing the scammer rather than protecting the innocent. And like I said, it's nobody's place to determine what sort of "sentence" is appropriate except the law's.
you don't know what peoples 'motivation' are for suggesting the site stays up. in the same sense we don't know your motivation for saying it should be taken down is because he is your mate.

I think it should stay up for both reasons, otherwise he basically 'free rolls' his scam.

so really the matter should be / have been reported to the police and they should have dealt with this?
03-26-2013 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
this is a moot discussion atm, as there's no immediate sign of Dean either repaying the charity or communicating sufficiently to resolve the other private disputes. But if he does get his **** together and make everyone whole, I'd be pretty appalled if the site stayed up. The argument that future employers deserve to know his history is quite disingenuous imo, it's clearly a case of punishing the scammer rather than protecting the innocent. And like I said, it's nobody's place to determine what sort of "sentence" is appropriate except the law's.
you are wrong.

you would be "appalled" if it stayed up? what planet are you living (or dead?) on? i agree with much of what you post, but this whole post is just flat out wrong and rather stupid.
03-26-2013 , 03:14 PM
I'm normally good at articulating my thoughts, but I guess I'm doing a pretty bad job of it in my last few posts as what I'm thinking makes sense in my head but I'm coming across pretty badly. So I'll stop!
03-26-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
But if he does get his **** together and make everyone whole, I'd be pretty appalled if the site stayed up. The argument that future employers deserve to know his history is quite disingenuous imo, it's clearly a case of punishing the scammer rather than protecting the innocent. And like I said, it's nobody's place to determine what sort of "sentence" is appropriate except the law's.
Why would you be appalled if the site showing everyone he's a scammer stayed up?

What's wrong with the argument that it's for future employers to see he's a scammer? I don't see how that's disingenuous at all.

In my mind it's for both protection of innocent people, and to punish him, if it's not our place to punish him, then this has to be reported to the police, otherwise he's completely got away with it.
03-26-2013 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by set4vegas
lol at bolding the report to police stuff u for real lol
You read the post? It says if it's not going to be handled by the community, then yeah, of course it should be reported to the police...

This is theft of a large sum of money... From a charity. You're delusional if you think this isn't a police matter.
03-26-2013 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by set4vegas
lol at bolding the report to police stuff u for real lol
if you got scammed for 6k buying a used car on craigslist I'm sure you would be reporting it to the police.
why is this any different?
03-26-2013 , 07:04 PM
So, lots of people moan about getting a website up and running as soon as possible to out Dean as a scammer and a Thief, in the hopes of it grabbing his attention and actually getting him to come out of hiding.

This was achieved.

Now, there are multiple ******s ITT who have spent the last week arguing about how long/if/when the site should come down/stay up, wtf is wrong with you people?! The last few pages have been absolute tits to read and its pretty clear how socially ******ed some people are.

The site will not be coming down for a long f***** time so just chill out.

Last edited by Syker12; 03-26-2013 at 07:04 PM. Reason: Also eh777 you really are special
03-26-2013 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Syker12
The last few pages have been absolute tits to read
ilu
03-26-2013 , 07:13 PM


ilu more
03-26-2013 , 07:16 PM
I can't believe Dean Bryden scammer and theif has met Lost Ostrich and I haven't. Sad panda.
03-26-2013 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Syker12
Now, there are multiple ******s ITT who have spent the last week arguing about how long/if/when the site should come down/stay up, wtf is wrong with you people?! The last few pages have been absolute tits to read and its pretty clear how socially ******ed some people are.

The site will not be coming down for a long f***** time so just chill out.
Nothings been achieved, Dean has dissapeared again. Socially ******ed? Wut? That doesn't even make sense in this context.

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Originally Posted by Syker12
Also eh777 you really are special
Feel free to counter any of my points, instead of spewing ad hominem bull****.
03-26-2013 , 08:10 PM
The point is you talk too much and no one cares what you think or say
03-26-2013 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eh777
Well I've countered the stupid points, and people who stuck up for him the whole time, pretty well, and there are a lot of people who agree with me...

If you don't like my posts then don't read them, the fact you feel the need to tell me that you don't care is pretty pathetic.
Just because there are a bunch of people itt who agree the site should be permanent doesn't mean they agree with your reasoning, nor share your attitude.
03-26-2013 , 08:41 PM
Doesn't removing the site provide some (small) incentive for scammers to payback?

wonder how often this happens
03-26-2013 , 11:31 PM
Keep this thread on topic. On topic does not involve arguing whether it stays up or not. It's not going anywhere soon obviously, so have that discussion when, if ever, that time comes.
03-26-2013 , 11:35 PM
Fair and reasonable point. [witty comment about that being unusual for you]

      
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