You've called Milo a fascist (upthread I believe) and have still not provided any evidence. You are also explicitly calling for violence against fascists in another thread. As far as I can tell, you're much worse than Milo, who is a pretty bad troll, but who I've yet to see any evidence has actually called for violence against anyone.

Tell me more about this implicit physical violence. Could you compare it to explicit physical violence?

Why is the burden on me to convince you? Why is the null hypothesis with you morons always that nobody is racist, nobody is fascist, nobody is sexist...

but when it comes to, oh, the ****ing Holocaust being exaggerated. Yeah let's accept that uncritically.

****ing transparent.

Ok you're still doing it? You're acting like literally the only measure of political speech is "explicitly calls for violence or doesn't". That's not true! You literally made that standard up in this thread.

I haven't denied Milo is a fascist, I just haven't seen any evidence. But I have seen plenty of evidence of hyperbole from you, like calling me a Holocaust denier, for example. It seems like any restrictions on speech designed to prevent violence would more likely apply to your speech than what I've seen from Milo. Evidence of Milo's speech could persuade me otherwise.

Anyhow. I stand by the notion calling for physical violence against fascists, while simultaneously calling lots of people fascist without evidence is a terrible idea.

He writes hate speech for a fascist organization. Done.

FoldN- As you might imagine, given that you are the opposition, I don't give a **** about your opinion. It's not like you have a track record of eventually being convinced.

You were fantasizing about fly getting punched in the face like just yesterday.

Are you seriously asking?

Yes, because I suspect there is a difference between what you call hate speech and calls for physical violence against others. The ACLU certainly thinks so anyway, and so I'd like you to make your case.

The black genocide ideas of Spencer were posted earlier itt. He doesn't explicitly call for violence but how kind and gentle do you imagine a genocide could be?

That certainly touches the line, I agree. You don't happen to have a quote of Milo approving of genocide do you?

Lol wait, which line?

He cosigns all the alt-right stuff correct?

The line between explicit calls for violence, ie, threats, and implicit calls for violence. His speech is right on that line, and would probably get him arrested in Europe. N

I've not seen any evidence of this.

Once ruled unacceptable as that was, it has to be dropped. Thanks

I disagree with this decision too, Chez. He should be free to bring that up, imo.

I was simply agreeing with Fly that I'd like to see some people punched in the face, like him, Milo, the Pope, etc. This isn't the same as advocating violence, btw. I like watching natural disasters in a sick way, but it doesn't mean I'm hoping for them to happen, or calling for them.

But either way, punching in the face is a relatively mild form of violence, kids still do it often with mild punishment. What was being discussed in that thread was how much violence is acceptable towards fascists. Pretty much everyone agreed a face punch is not a big deal, although everyone agreed it should still be illegal.

I also admitted I would take up arms to oppose fascism, and if Trump succeeds in turning our government into a fascist regime, I will do more than punch a few faces. I might even fight along with someone like Fly, whom I disagree with on so much else, for example, how to prevent someone like Trump from gaining so much popularity in our country.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/0...the-alt-right/

It's long.

He also does gymnastics trying to say the alt-right =/= neo-nazis. Which is duh. There are numerous white supremacy movements and they're not all specifically neo-nazis. The KKK are/were not neo-nazis. South African apartheid ideology was not neo-nazism. He goes to great lengths that because the alt-right is not all neo-nazis it's somehow significantly different.

Hahaha oh my God chez you're going to insulate people from being accused of hypocrisy?

No. You feel free to accuse people of hypocrisy if you wish. In the !!! threads only of course

However when the line is crossed such as attacking peoples family or wishing violence on posters then it doesn't get reintroduced by anybody.

Which you're not allowed to do.

Now everyone drop it and move on please. Final warning for those involved.

Wait, his attempts to defend the alt-right movement as not all a bunch of racists, fascists, etc., is evidence that he calls for violence against people, or is perhaps a fascist himself? I'm not following that train of thought.

I guess I think it's just all too common around these parts. I'm apparently a racist, fascist, Holocaust denier, rapist too, you know. You might as well accuse the ACLU of being fascist for defending the Nazi's right to free speech. Unless someone can produce a quote of Milo calling for violence, or something similar to Spencer's quote on genocide, then I'll continue to be skeptical.

I haven't finished it yet, but I still haven't found any reference to calls for violence, approval of fascism, or anything of that sort yet. The authors do have a few interesting things to say about why the alt-right has come to be so popular, and why they are probably going to continue to gain force in our current climate:

Sounds like you agree with much of what the white nationalists at Breitbart have to say.

Like, a Milo fan ****ing shot somebody over the weekend and there's not a single ****ing tear shed by the viciously stupid white supremacist posters and moderator of this forum.

Milo, above everything else, is just dumb as ****. Breitbart, the alt-right, FoldN, chezlaw.... y'all are deeply reactionary. You aren't a rebel when you defend the current power structure, and you damn sure aren't when your actual demand is that the amount of oppression INCREASES. Casting defending unearned privilege as an act of "breaking the rules" and "saying the unsayable" is ****ing rich.

(I guess it goes without saying that Milo's rich parents got him into a decent college but he dropped out and didn't graduate)

If that's what you're getting from the article then OK, but it's clearly not what I said.

They're all white ethnonationalists, which is inherently racist and fascist by definition. They're just not all neo-nazis specifically. This is not some wild fringe controversial interpretation.