I am cashing in those rubles on the daily in einbertland.

But the same thing applies to, say, the entirety of your posting, right? You've told us from the beginning of your time here that condemning one thing doesn't mean you condone the opposite - that's what makes the attacks on you as being a Trump supporter so unjustified, by your telling!!

So now that we have that bit of hypocrisy out of the way - did it also take 30 seconds of time to compile all the information about Victor's past life that you decided to drop in here before pretending you're happy he got into road biking? And does it not strike you as sliiiiightly weird that nobody else on the forum really does this kind of thing and you're kinda unique in being that much of a creepy forum stalker?

Just think of how much harder you could own all the liberals here if you were capable of acting like a normal human being!

Whoah, WHOAH, next thing you know you'll be calling me a Trump supporter because I made an anti-Hillary post!

I know crazy right! Sorry for getting a little salty when called a white supremacist neo-nazi russian shill pizzagater because I didn't attack enough Trump supporters and was critical of Hillary and the DNC! My bad what was I thinking!

"Hook line and sinker teeeheeehee".

This is not remotely true, as I've had statements I've made years ago, just once, brought up. Portraying someone as bringing up another's posters history as being anything close to unique is absurd.

It's obvious that calling anyone a welcher now is silly, wil. I was interested to know if at all jalfrezi will realize that he should pay.

You're right, I should clarify. People bringing up your Serena Williams posting as an example - we were all there, we participated, we remember that.

Dan joined 2+2 under a year ago and when someone like Victor or einbert says some **** to him he doesn't like, he searches back through years of posts in forums he doesn't even read and starts compiling info, waiting to spring it.

Does that seem like normal behavior to you, wil?

It's hilarious that jalfrezi went from calling me a welcher to becoming dead silent on the issue.

He owes me 200 dollars as far as I'm concerned, and it seems the majority of this forum believes so also. Jalfrezi? You there, buddy? No hard feelings, as you said earlier, right?

It's pretty thorough, I'll admit. Would you say it's so uncommon as to be called creepy, though? I mean let's be honest here, people search through other people's post history. I don't do it often, because I'm bad at it, but I've done it myself. Look at 5ives posts about me, he literally finds things I've said so long ago I had to look it up myself to see if I actually typed it, yet no one calls 5ive a creep because, let's be honest, he's on "your side".

While it very well be "damn dude, you really looked that up?", I would say it being creepy/stalkerish is a real stretch.

I mean, goofyballer, this is the sequence of posts immediately after the bet was made and then won by Wil.

That was Jalfrezi's response! And what was yours after that? Let's go to the tape.


Okay buddy. And yet you call ME a scumbag because I called Jalfrezi a 'welcher'?!

Russian shill spies pulling out Obama gifs. Makes sense.

To be honest this is the most fun I've had on 2+2 for a while.

Victor, you seriously won't answer this simple question?

Why? Do you want me to stop asking you to answer? I am truly confused here. What is the problem with you answering? Because you want to protect aofrantic?

Grunching but jalfrezi wins anyhow, from both angles.

I didn't literally say wil was a literal propagandist or propogandist.

we discussed it over pm. but I dont see why that would mean he owes you money. he certainly tracked it down.

I was already sure this was the case. I thank you for your honesty and will not make any claim of this point towards aofrantics "challenge". I think this speaks for itself when it comes to the accepted behavior of many people in this forum.

I think it's just yet another example of how people are willing to behave when dealing with people they have animosity towards. It's a valuable lesson when it comes to understanding the human condition and why demonizing people is so detrimental.

Enough 2+2 for me for tonight.

The dude. Has me. On. Ignore.

This is so ****ing hilariously obvious but you STILL need to spell it out and wil STILL goes on to act like it's the gotcha of all gotchas.

You're right, any reasonable person could see exactly what was being bet. This is correct. You were so excited that you missed it, but everyone else watching saw what was happening. I can MAYBE see a world where you get out of the bet for whatever reason, but this bet should never be a wil win. Either ship the money or shoot for a no-bet. Claiming in any way that you won this bet after your statement that I quoted is ludicrous.

Uh wil, there's this thing called a time difference. Maybe someone will explain it to you one day. I'm off to work now, having finished with this other thing called sleep.

Mods won't arbitrate, forum seems divided, OP of the post that you're using to claim the win is denying you. Interesting times. Later tosser!

Oh no. This isn't where it ends dickhead. Name terms and we will arbitrate fairly. You owe me 200 dollars and at this point you are obviously a welcher. Name your terms, but this bet is getting paid.

Lol, did you even read the thread afterwards? People who had no stake and disliked me sided with me .

What are you smoking?

Pretty sure with the way the bet was phrased wil would lose in a court of law. Literally means one thing. It was 100% obvious he was toying with wil and wil had zero idea. For that reason I think neither should pay, wil didn't understand the bet.

Even if the word literally wasn't there wil should lose. The bet was if wil had ever been called a certain string of characters. He responded showing a different string of characters and claimed victory. That's bull****. You didn't say something like this string, you said this string.

It's pretty clear that this was an angle and angles are generally frowned upon, but importantly not all angles are against the rules rather than merely in bad taste. This is why you properly discuss rules before agreeing to silly prop bets if you're not just going to sigh and pay out. Anyone could see that somehow Jalfrezi was confident that this was a lock. Anyone smart would be suspicious even if they hadn't spotted the out.

Honestly, if someone tried this on anyone else I'd say it's a dick move, but since Wil advocates violence against women, children, trans, and black people, we're well into "punching Nazis" territory where I really can't feel bad for the guy who's being punished for bragging about his illiteracy.