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02-27-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
The reality would've involved a whole lot of secrecy, pressure on her career/freedom from the law, potential life long commitment of a kid, inevitable heartbreak
None of those are the raison d'être for statutory rape laws. That's not what children/teenagers are supposed to be protected from. They need to be protected from predators and as someone else pointed out: let's err on the side of caution.
I know you agree and I am probably nitpicking here.
02-27-2017 , 03:32 PM
We do agree. If it wasn't clear those are some of the reasons for why I reject the view that the adolescent fantasy is reality even from a superficial level. Further to your point, it's not only that I want to protect kids from the vast majority of cases that are far more predatory and damaging, it's that I think from every perspective it is necessarily abusive. Even in these supposed fringe cases people imagine.
02-28-2017 , 12:55 AM
So he announced today that he has a new publisher, a new tour and media venture. Still has over 2M follows on FB and almost 2M likes. Career still over?
02-28-2017 , 09:16 AM
Yeah, I've been pretty skeptical of the idea that Milo will just go away and disappear. That greatly overestimates the decency of his fan base. He's not going to be on major shows like Politically Incorrect any time soon, but he's still got his permanent victimhood college tour routine to fall back on.
02-28-2017 , 09:24 AM
Well, the longer he sticks around in the public eye the longer you'll have "conservatives" arguing for things like child-adult relationships and god knows what else, so it could be funny to see how far he trolls them. Will he get them to defend necrophilia? Autoerotic asphyxiation? That milo, what a scamp!
02-28-2017 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
So he announced today that he has a new publisher, a new tour and media venture. Still has over 2M follows on FB and almost 2M likes. Career still over?
One year from now he will be an afterthought. Anything can happen in this crazy environment, but I feel pretty sure he's toast.
02-28-2017 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
Yeah, I've been pretty skeptical of the idea that Milo will just go away and disappear. That greatly overestimates the decency of his fan base. He's not going to be on major shows like Politically Incorrect any time soon, but he's still got his permanent victimhood college tour routine to fall back on.
Pretty much. It was a tense ten minutes or so on here before we found people ready to apologise for him, so I'm guessing his already terrible fan base will recover. Maybe never as strong as it was, but there'll be enough to keep him touring.
02-28-2017 , 03:00 PM
You don't have to look further than the poster above you for someone who will defend disgusting people and criminal actions.
02-28-2017 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You don't have to look further than the poster above you for someone who will defend disgusting people and criminal actions.
I didn't defend him.

It is a constant smear tactic from you people. It takes away from your credibility, it doesn't make it better.

It's bizarre how you are so willing to act like a child. I don't think you honestly believe I think it's OK to have sexual relations with 13-16 year old people as an adult, because that's just not logical from what I wrote. So it must come from some sort of frustration that I make an argument that makes sense to you, yet you really don't want to admit it? Maybe moreso due to the backlash you'd get from the other idiots on your side?

It's really strange behavior. You should work on that.
02-28-2017 , 03:52 PM
Yet more projection.
02-28-2017 , 03:54 PM
I'm not projecting a damn thing. You're a borderline freak. The logic you use to get to your conclusions is pure idiocy. I don't think you even believe the crap you spew.
02-28-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm not projecting a damn thing. You're a borderline freak. The logic you use to get to your conclusions is pure idiocy. I don't think you even believe the crap you spew.
More nonsense.

It's based on the evidence of your views that everyone saw in posts you made. There's no need for inference because you laid it all out for everyone to see, and defended it when challenged.

You should just skulk off and be quiet for a few weeks and hope that some people forget you're a child rape apologist.
03-01-2017 , 12:19 AM
jalfrezi,

Quote him a bunch and join the on-ignore club. We have totally sweet retreats. We go paintballing and stuff.
03-01-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
More nonsense.

It's based on the evidence of your views that everyone saw in posts you made. There's no need for inference because you laid it all out for everyone to see, and defended it when challenged.

You should just skulk off and be quiet for a few weeks and hope that some people forget you're a child rape apologist.
Again, complete idiocy. I stand by every word I said. Lol @ skulk away. I'm not Fly and hide for 2 weeks after being proven an idiot.

Bahaha.
03-01-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Again, complete idiocy. I stand by every word I said. Lol @ skulk away. I'm not Fly and hide for 2 weeks after being proven an idiot.

Bahaha.
You condone adults having sex with under age children.
03-01-2017 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You condone adults having sex with under age children.
Did he really do this? I remember him saying he would've loved to bone an older woman as an underage kid. It's something a lot of teenage guys would've been excited about, without realizing that it's wrong, and the older person would be a predator.

That's been twisted into him being an advocate for pedophila. He's a dad, right? Does it make any sense that he'd be a pedo fan? If we're changing the tone of this forum, I think some of the attacks on wil are a step back.
03-01-2017 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You condone adults having sex with under age children.
How about I simply PayPal you 200 dollars for quoting me saying this?

I'll be waiting, I'll ship the money when you prove I said that.
03-01-2017 , 09:37 PM
I feel 75% of wil's post is just some script he turns on to reply since most of his posts all use the same words.
03-01-2017 , 09:39 PM
^^ it's nice you took a break from ATF with all your crying like a little bitch to come visit us.
03-01-2017 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
Did he really do this? I remember him saying he would've loved to bone an older woman as an underage kid. It's something a lot of teenage guys would've been excited about, without realizing that it's wrong, and the older person would be a predator.

That's been twisted into him being an advocate for pedophila. He's a dad, right? Does it make any sense that he'd be a pedo fan? If we're changing the tone of this forum, I think some of the attacks on wil are a step back.
Let's forget for a second the discussion about what an incomprehensibly awful poster Wil is.

In a general sense, the bolded might be the dumbest sentence ever written. Your world is one where fathers can't be pedophiles?
03-02-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You condone adults having sex with under age children.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
How about I simply PayPal you 200 dollars for quoting me saying this?

I'll be waiting, I'll ship the money when you prove I said that.

Oh snap, did those posts get deleted? I haven't checked yet, but preemptive LOL.
03-02-2017 , 02:34 AM
Ok, I see where wil is having trouble. There's a weird sort of soft sexism at play here, where teenage girls are denied agency as sexual beings. Fortunately we don't use "enjoying it" or "not looking at it negatively" as the litmus test for determining statutory rape/sexual abuse/pedophilia/etc.

Nevertheless, this is all wil explicitly "condon(ing) adults having sex with under age children".

Ship the maneyz or ban? 100 to jalfrezi, 100 to me.



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Originally Posted by wil318466
This is humorous. If anything, people like you are the ones who are so predictable in this instance. The virtue signalling gene is triggered. I'm able to differentiate between hyprocisy and recognize double standards, which make some topics more complicated. We don't typically view young girls with older men the same way as young boys with older women.



I was busy doing something. There is no silence from me, as I'll discuss any topic. I didn't realize time of reply was a factor.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
He did not say he was molested. He actually described himself as the aggressor. When I was 14 I'd have gladly had sex with any woman under 50. And the only reason I'm saying 50 is because someone will criticize me for wanting to nail 60 year olds.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
The transcript you are quoting is different from the video. It's obvious that Milo actually enjoyed his sexual escapades with older men while he was a teen, as he refused to refer to it in a negative manner. I think many men could picture a similar position if we were talking about heterosexual relationships when we were of similar age. I know I would not be talking of it negatively if I was 14 and had sex with a 25 year old woman twenty years after the fact. I'd have jumped at the chance.

As far as him describing what he feels is appropriate, I disagree. That being said, he's taking a very personal view on the subject in regards to his experiences, which he obviously enjoyed when he was in that position. I don't support his stance.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's more complicated than that. It's obvious Milo looks positively on his past experiences, something I have trouble defending in terms of other people's situations. I believe there are differences in men and women and they way they look at these circumstances, in a very general sense. I don't think that is unreasonable, as I'm sure many of us could relate.

Are you saying you, or most men, would not have wanted the same situations when we were of the same age, although with females? I know I would have.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Again, it's more complicated than that. You are taking a simplistic approach to something that is more complex. I already stated my stance on the subject, and I disagree with Milo. That doesn't mean it's as simple as saying "wil condones pedophilia".

Just as we can all agree that having naked pictures of a 15 year old person on your phone is considered child pornography if someone defended another 15 year old possessing those pictures due to their girlfriend sending them to them, I wouldn't run around saying that person condoned child pornography.

Circumstances mean something. In Milo's case the adult was at fault, as the responsibility was on them to control the situation. Milo looks at the circumstances in a positive light, so that must be taken into consideration as far as holding him accountable to expose the men he was involved with at the time. If the solution were in my past and the genders were different, I'd do the same.
03-02-2017 , 02:44 AM
p.s. I sometimes forget how weird and abstract the topic of sexuality can be. A sexual experience can be horrible abuse or pleasurable good times, and few other things fit this paradigm. We wouldn't see somebody say, "Well, I really didn't enjoy you punching me in the face this time, but maybe under different circumstances I might've consented and enjoyed the experience." Or, a person being left a no-strings-attached briefcase full of money on their doorstep, where they say, "I didn't consent to this, I feel violated."

So, like all abstract and quasiabstract things, it confuses dumdums like wil.

Yet and still, just to repeat, this isn't an excuse an I expect some funds to be shipped in the near future or hammers to be dropped.
03-02-2017 , 03:31 AM
lolwil

$200 to 5ive please, and clean up your act, paedo-lover.
03-02-2017 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
lolwil

$200 to 5ive please, and clean up your act, paedo-lover.
I'm not PayPal'ing $200 to 5ive, ever.

**** you.

      
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