It seems plenty of racists are dissatisfied with the rate of violence against black people and want the cops to get in on the action.

LOL what about black on black crime, man, nobody could've seen that coming from duffee

Black on black crime is so bad it's like 5 points worse than white on white crime. Oh wait.

Lots of people have lots of opinions I disagree with or think is stupid. I don't call all of them racist. What was the subject matter of this opinion?

I just called you out on this. You constantly try this woe is me, woe is all of us bull**** abstract whine, and when called to account and provide specifics, you literally can not. You failed. Wookie called your bluff last time, and now I'm going to call your bluff here.

This argument never works. It is a fairy tale racists tell each other.

Yo actually the problem is ****ing centuries of institutional white supremacy you cornfed halfwit piece of ****. This IS a constructive conversation on race. Right now, this thread, hell, this post contains more actual content on race in America than all the slavery and stereotype apologetics SMP posts over the course of a year.

Getting BruceZ to shut the **** up is real progress.

Getting you to understand that a lot of **** you assume is just conventional wisdom is actually super racist is progress. Like right now you're talking about "this is what people mean when they say playing the race card", man, I know. We all know.

Here's something else I know, THOSE PEOPLE ARE RACISTS. If talking about how opposition to immigration reform is partially motivated by racism is "playing the race card", playing the race card is a required step before an actual conversation can take place.

Shorter FoldN:

"I want to have an honest and constructive conversation on race, which means I get to say whatever I honestly believe, and then everyone else has to censor themselves and just tell me I'm right"

Whether or not the cops were truly oppressive is beside the point. It's about trust, and we all have biases. The people of Ferguson made it very clear they didn't trust the police, and rightly so, imo. Sadly, that's also is a strong indicatation which way their biases lean. If it had gone to trial, would you say the defense attorney was racist if he dismissed jurors from that area?

So why are white people so much less biased?

So have you read up on Witness 40 yet?

Because the police and the justice system are racist

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You are two pages late.

We just went through this discussion where Duffee asked why people found some of his viewpoints vile and racist. So we walked through the police department search stats again, then came to the conclusions

1) Ferguson isnt nearly as bad as Oakland

2) Police officers are biased because of black on black crime. If any poster on this board worked for the Oakland PD, they'd be searching black people at higher rates, and underlying criminality is the reason.

3) We should continue to take absolutely no public policy action designed to specifically help black people because they "dont deserve more rights than a newly naturalized citizen"...despite the litany of stats that Duffee himself just posted showing black people being disproportionately searched. You know, in comparison to a white naturalized citizen.

4) Better training and firing cops doesnt seem to do anything, so we should do _____ to help solve the problem (solution left blank)

5) Right back to the real problem with racism is liberals being divisive for political purposes while conservatives have the real solutions to help black people.

also would like to point out that foldN endorsed this view and basically repeated it almost verbatum

Paraphrase: You aren't incorrectly paranoid if people are out to get you, and you are a bit stupid if you don't notice that people are out to get you.

You mean what actual conservatives call entitlement spending? Why do you think that conservatives vote for those candidates to keep whitey in charge? What evidence do you have that supports this position?

Thanks a lot. Now I need to amend my earlier post:

Well Duffee, you have a little issue where we have all read your posts.

Lol again at stockguy, the person whose wife was on welfare but it was OK because she didn't want to be on welfare and wasn't one of "those people" abusing the system, chiming in here.

When did you become a racist?

Wait wait wait.

Are you ****ing morons wrapping around to "police oppression of black people is so widespread that black people cannot be trusted to accurately recount police oppression, ergo any individual black person's account of police oppression should be discredited"? Is that where we're headed towards from the first premise that everything Bruce said is true and good and kind being reconciled with the second premise that everyone actually agrees that racism exists and is bad(even people who say that racism doesn't exist and/or is good)?

LOL eat a ****ing gun. I don't mean kill yourself. I mean I want you to literally buy a firearm, disassemble it, and then consume it for nutrition. So from here on out, when I tell you to eat a ****ing gun, Brian, I'm just making an odd culinary recommendation, it's absolutely not a personal attack.

I know following along is hard, but even if I grant thanks some of Bruce's lack of trust in the local black population is just a banal platitude about how everyone is biased, why does he think that white people are less biased?

Lololol, and this is why most of the sane world shakes their head. It's so painfully obvious you can't think in terms of anything but race, you actually take it this way. Let me spoon feed you. People (race is irrelevant) who distrust cops are likely to be biased against cops. People who trust cops are likely to be biased for cops. Is this hard?

There is a trailer court near one of my current job sites, mostly white from what I can tell. Cops are in and out of there a lot. I assume meth, among other things. If the people in that neighborhood hate the cops for coming down hard on them all the time, and a cop shoots a white kid dead, chances are those witnesses accounts will be biased. Racist?

Don't be an ahole and try and act like I'm saying the people of Ferguson were all drug dealers. It's the distrust in police that causes the bias. Why is irrelevant.

I doubt he does. It's you who keep saying that.

I suggest you quote him.

Who's more likely to lie:

Someone who's biased, or someone who is on trial for murder?

Why would one be more likely to lie than the other?

(Hint: think self-preservation)

You're the one making the accusation.

You ever find a post where someone accused you of dogwhistling?

Exactly but humans are generally not great at allowing for cognitive bias especially in traumatic situations.



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