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04-08-2015 , 06:05 PM

#1601

Trolly McTrollson

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So basically police abuse is just a fiction invented by people who are biased against police because of abusive police practices.

04-08-2015 , 06:10 PM

#1602

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

So basically police abuse is just a fiction invented by people who are biased against police because of abusive police practices.

No police abuse is very real.

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04-08-2015 , 06:16 PM

#1603

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

You ever find a post where someone accused you of dogwhistling?

You're smart to change the subject, but this is a silly one.

No, I don't care to wade through the mess, but lol at challenging me on being accused of using code words and dog whistles. Do you not know where you are today? I'll happily make a bet with you.

04-08-2015 , 06:19 PM

#1604

FoldnDark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

So basically police abuse is just a fiction invented by people who are biased against police because of abusive police practices.

Yeah that's a weird statement. It's really simple: people who distrust police will more likely be biased against police. People who trust police will more likely be biased in favor of police. Any disagreement on this?

04-08-2015 , 06:32 PM

#1605

LetsGambool

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Rule one of team Bruce: never actually produce a Bruce post in support of any argument.

04-08-2015 , 06:33 PM

#1606

FlyWf

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Those are ****ing tautologies, FoldN, just spit out the ****ing point

04-08-2015 , 06:35 PM

#1607

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGambool

Rule one of team Bruce: never actually produce a Bruce post in support of any argument.

That's really more like Rule 1(a), since Rule 1 is never produce any examples of anything, ever, but incredibly still maintain an indignant and smug tone as if the lack of evidence is all the proof you need.

Anyway, I think I found FoldN's mom:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...ampaign=buffer

Quote:

One of the racist emails sent by Twitty included a picture of Ronald Reagan feeding a chimpanzee, along with the caption: “Rare photo of Ronald Reagan babysitting Barack Obama in 1962.”

Asked by KMOV whether she found the emails funny, she replied, "Funny as in, humor-wise? Humor-wise, yes. Not because it was racist or biased, no. Just funny joke-wise. I feel bad because that's not, I don't want people to look at me and say, ‘Well, she sent those racist jokes out because she's racist or biased.' And I'm not.”

04-08-2015 , 06:37 PM

#1608

LetsGambool

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I don't get it. She says she's not racist, ergo we should take her at her word. /chezlaw

04-08-2015 , 06:39 PM

#1609

FlyWf

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Just another victim of those damn PC liberals playing the race card.

04-08-2015 , 06:52 PM

#1610

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

and the privileged group (in this case whites) will tend to be biased towards the police being fair.

all in all the reason to be very way about witness statements except where they collaborate particular events.

04-08-2015 , 06:56 PM

#1611

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by LetsGambool

Rule one of team Bruce: never actually produce a Bruce post in support of any argument.

Lol, what post am I supposed to produce? Wookie is the one who made the accusation. The burden is on him to back it up. He should post where Bruce said whites are less biased than blacks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Those are ****ing tautologies, FoldN, just spit out the ****ing point

Practically yes, which is why this so simple. Do you disagree most of the witnesses in Ferguson were likely to distrust police?

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04-08-2015 , 07:15 PM

#1612

FoldnDark

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I'll go ahead and answer that for you, of course you don't. Anyone who's been paying attention sees this. So if you agree they likely distrust the police, then you agree they are likely to be biased against the police. You and Bruce agree. Glad to help.

04-08-2015 , 07:21 PM

#1613

+rep_lol

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so because they've been systematically brutalized and discriminated against by police for years, we can't trust their statements about an event where police brutality occurred.

SMP4EVA

04-08-2015 , 07:34 PM

#1614

ctyri

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

so because they've been systematically brutalized and discriminated against by police for years, we can't trust their statements about an event where police brutality occurred.

SMP4EVA

And don't forget we should take the word of the (alleged) abusers without making any comment about their possible bias.

04-08-2015 , 07:44 PM

#1615

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

so because they've been systematically brutalized and discriminated against by police for years, we can't trust their statements about an event where police brutality occurred.

SMP4EVA

You shouldn't blindly trust or mistrust any witnesses statements. You should evaluate them, comparing them to each other and to the physical evidence for consistency, and you should also understand which way each of their biases is likely to fall. That's how the full picture is best revealed. Any investigator worth his salt does this, it's not that complicated.

04-08-2015 , 07:46 PM

#1616

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by ctyri

And don't forget we should take the word of the (alleged) abusers without making any comment about their possible bias.

That would be very stupid. Please don't do that.

04-08-2015 , 07:47 PM

#1617

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

Good to hear you agree Bruce isn't worth any salt.

04-08-2015 , 07:55 PM

#1618

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Good to hear you agree Bruce isn't worth any salt.

You don't add much flavor yourself, bud.

04-08-2015 , 07:56 PM

#1619

ctyri

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Originally Posted by FoldnDark

That would be very stupid. Please don't do that.

And glad you agree Bruce was very stupid.

04-08-2015 , 07:58 PM

#1620

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by Anais

Who's more likely to lie:

Someone who's biased, or someone who is on trial for murder?

Why would one be more likely to lie than the other?

(Hint: think self-preservation)

Well, minorities are more likely to be put on trial for most criminal offenses, and given harsher sentences than whites, so I guess the answer is black people are more likely to lie.

04-08-2015 , 08:00 PM

#1621

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

all in all the reason to be very way about witness statements...

Ya, see like I said, this is the part where you conclude that reports of police violence are exaggerations/inventions of minorities, who are biased against police because of police violence. It's a neatly paradoxical bit of victim blaming.

04-08-2015 , 08:02 PM

#1622

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by ctyri

And glad you agree Bruce was very stupid.

I mean, you do realize that by this measure, practically the whole forum was stupid. But sure, vigorously arguing for or against either side was stupid and those who did so were acting stupidly.

04-08-2015 , 08:02 PM

#1623

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Not at all. The reports of police violence and misconduct are not remotely exaggerated.

I'm very sure they are downplayed. It's one of the reasons why cameras are so vital

04-08-2015 , 08:04 PM

#1624

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

oh wow, **** that my parents taught me when i was like 8 years old, you're adding so much value to the conversation with this crash course in developing good judgment, please go on.

how did you feel about the testimony of witness 40, officer wilson, and the construction workers? who do you think was the most reliable of the 3? you know, given your expertise in discerning bias and all that