sting being there to talk is such a terrible proposition

If he's there just to talk, what's he gonna say?

According to the Observer, the top three matches currently being discussed for WrestleMania 31 are:

Sting vs. Triple H
The Rock vs. Rusev
Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns.

Also,

Hard to believe that's actually true because of how unimaginably stupid it would be. Basically implies that WWE had no plan for direction whatsoever after the Authority angle came to an end.

this week's smackdown features yet another return:



and it's looking like they are never going to mention the bellas ever hated each other or the 30 day servant stuff, which i don't care about other than how funny it is that they have no plans for anything ever. it's approaching wcw hummer levels.

What's the WCW hummer?

N/M, found this:

Re: The WCW Hummer Mystery
This was posted on another forum by a poster named cabbageboy, but it's the best recap I could find of the angle:

Those that were amused by the Vince Russo thread on here likely read that while Russo's booking in WCW was mostly hideous that I feel there was one angle WCW did in 1999 that was worse than anything Russo ever did. That of course would be the disaster known as the WCW Hummer Angle from 1999, which to me is the single worst angle in the history of wrestling. It was bizarre, incoherent when it didn't need to be, spanned too many months, wasn't really resolved, and generally wrecked WCW's business to the point where they went from a still somewhat viable #2 promotion to a laughingstock.

It all began after Kevin Nash defeated DDP for the world title at Slamboree 99, with the aid of Eric Bischoff returning to restart the match (how I don't exactly know since Bisch had zero power in storyline). DDP wasn't ever meant to be a long term main eventer, Hogan was hurt, and Goldberg was filming Universal Soldier 2, so Randy Savage was brought back from injury to feud with Kevin Nash.

The feud got off to a fairly amusing start as Nash used a contortionist woman to dump sewage all over Macho on Nitro. So of course Savage must retaliate and he does so with the aid of his alluring female cohorts Gorgeous George, Miss Madness (Molly Holly), and Madusa. They lured Nash into a limo rendezvous (with champagne) and before Nash knew it they bolted and a humvee came crashing into the limo, seemingly either killing Nash or seriously injuring him. Bear in mind this was a week before the Great American Bash PPV, so it seemed odd to do an angle where one of the two main event guys would be seriously injured and thus might not wrestle on the PPV.

GAB 99 of course is one of the worst PPVs ever for various reasons, but the main event is what I'll focus on. Nash and Macho had a mediocre match that ended with Sid Vicious returning to WCW and attacking Nash for a DQ. This was actually a pretty interesting surprise as many assumed Sid was simply the hummer driver Macho hired to take out Nash. However....he wasn't. And that was the problem.

The angle kept going on and on into July, with Sid clearly NOT being the driver and Savage insisting that he had the real driver under wraps to attack when the time was right. Somehow Sting was involved in this now as well, with Macho alluding to him maybe being the driver and fake Stings showing up all over TV in hummers doing god knows what. This was all head scratching stuff, but at least Savage vowed to reveal the real driver at Bash at the Beach. That main event was an insane tag match with the WCW title on the line, where Sting could actually win the world title from his own tag partner, Nash. As an aside there was a dubious angle with Macho beating Gorgeous George and Nash "rescued" her during all of this.

None of this happened of course. No driver was ever revealed at BATB, but instead Savage won the title when George obviously turned on Nash and cost him the match. Sting and Sid didn't factor into much of it and all the red herrings with Sting being the driver went nowhere. Savage's epic win lasted all of one night, as the returning Hulk Hogan beat him on Nitro and went back to the red and yellow soon after.

If this angle hadn't gone totally off the tracks by now, it soon would. Nash was now furious at Hogan for being the champ and turned heel, demanding a match with Hogan at Road Wild and even put his career on the line. Savage went on to do a silly feud with Dennis Rodman of all people, even threatening that the hummer driver might be lurking to attack again. Other than that slight mention, the angle was put on the back burner. So of course at the PPV Hogan beat Nash and sent him into retirement (for now) and Savage beat Rodman only to then quit the company immediately after the PPV as the company itself was clearly tanking beyond belief.

Instead of just dropping the whole Hummer Angle nonsense, WCW actually went back to it for lack of anything better to do once Bischoff was removed as WCW president. We now have Hogan as champion with Sting challenging him at Fall Brawl, but add in Lex Luger to stir some ****. Luger claimed that he had definite proof that Hogan was in fact the Hummer driver, though the pics with Hogan showed Hulk with a humvee of a different color than the one that ran over Nash. Luger insisted to Sting not to trust Hogan and for once Sting wasn't a moron. At Fall Brawl Sting sorta turned heel and attacked Hogan with a baseball bat, had multiple run ins, and won the title (I say sorta because the crowd cheered all of this, clearly not buying Hogan's face act).

Let's back up and survey the carnage. At this point we have Lex Luger accusing Hogan of being the Hummer Driver, when in fact the man who was initially hit by the Hummer (Nash) was now retired in storyline terms and did a heel turn before retiring to boot! Further, the man who hired the job to be done (Savage) had walked out on WCW over disagreements with Hogan and Co. over the booking. Luger himself was never directly tied to any of these events, and Sting was mostly a red herring.

After Fall Brawl WCW had a few lame duck weeks before Vince Russo took over the booking. They basically ignored the Hummer angle from this point and Russo dropped it entirely during his initial run. So basically after all this crap the angle was never resolved, never went anywhere, and WCW's ratings had plummetted from a 3.9 or so to a 2.6.

In April of 2000 Russo and Bischoff returned after the ill fated Kevin Sullivan booking era and on this initial Nitro outing Hogan was the victim of a Hummer attack, as Eric Bischoff and Billy Kidman ran down the Hulkster to start that feud. It is still debated as to what exactly this all meant. Was it Bischoff all along that was the driver? Was it a silly tribute and nothing more? No one really knows for sure. Let's say Bischoff was the real driver though since no other solution was presented. Why would Bischoff want to run over Nash in the first place? He had just restarted the Slamboree match that helped Nash win the title from Page, so it makes zero sense.
Hope that helps a little...

Man. I remember none of that, but I definitely bailed and stopped watching WCW at some point anyway.

Well, I don't think Vince expected the Authority to actually lose. I mean, the deck was stacked in their favor.

Punk to spill his guts about the past couple years of wrestling plus why he left on Cabana's podcast:

http://www.tsmradio.com/colthold2/show226.mp3

Thanks isolated!

Enjoying it so far, Mind you I have gone through and am going through the same thing cm punk went through and is talking about in regards to employer ****ing you in the ass.

Highlights
http://www.pwinsider.com/article/898...dcast.html?p=1

Holy Balls is this damning to WWE!

As I said at the time he left, good for him for saying **** off and leaving. That sounds like a nightmare.

Insane.

Jesus Christ

Haven't listened yet, but how did they get WWE2k15 to sponsor the podcast if it's just going to be Punk ****ting on them?

Holy **** at all of that. If that's even 80% true, good for him for telling them to **** off; hope the money he got was enough that he never has to cave and come back.

Man Ryback comes off really bad here.

They should have known better than that make him work with ryback at that point, but yeah the whole rib kick thing...

Think we can put the Punk returning thing to bed forever.

+1

Just read the summary and will listen at first opportunity. But wow it's hard to not hate Vince after reading that.

The thing is that I would usually resist just taking one side of the story's word for it, but this many years of following WWE just makes me read **** like that and think, "yup, sounds completely believable." They don't have much benefit of the doubt coming their way.

The summary doesn't do it justice. Steph calling him a quitter a few weeks ago went from being awesome to scummy really quick.

Was he waiting until aj was done before doing this interview? This pretty much confirms she isn't coming back right?

The dirt sheets have indicated that AJ isn't gone, but who knows.