Why comment then?

You definitely shouldn't have let it happen. If you have to call a floor, call a floor. If a dealer breaks the transfer/wait list rules in your favor, it's up to you whether you should speak up. But no way should you let them break rules like this that cost you money. No short stacked nit will usurp a deep stacked fish's seat at my table.

Machi as always good cooments, we should have called the floor.

Won't let it happen again...

Only room for 1 short stacked nit at Machi's table.... ;-)

You're thinking of my PLO game; I let my hair down at NLHE. How dare you.

Fun hand from 2/5 yesterday: check/check on river, board is 77KK8. Player 1 shows 55. Dealer announces, "Five high". (Technically 8 high of course, but close enough for Hard Rock.) Player 2 tosses his cards into the middle of the table face down. Dealer gives him another chance and says, "Are you showing those, or folding?" Player tells him he's folding.

It wasn't a big pot, but I still wouldn't be thrilled if I was Player 1 when the dealer gives Player 2 a mulligan on his fold.

imo, dealer made THREE mistakes: third one was giving Player 2 a mulligan; second one was reading Player 1's hand as five high instead of playing the board; first one, and most egregious, was reading out load Player 1's hand when Player 2 hadn't tabled his hand. It's a dealer's responsibility to read the hands, but not before all showdown hands are tabled. It's the players' responsibility to read the other hands if they don't table. (And players that aren't in the hand should shut up about it, too.)

Highly disagree with the last one. Read all face up hands at all times. "Cards speak"

"Cards speak" means that the tabled cards, not the verbal declaration of a player, determine the value of a hand at showdown. It has nothing whatsoever to do with when a dealer should read out the hand values of tabled hands. Dealers should not be doing that until all hands at showdown are either tabled or mucked, not as they are tabled one by one. It is up to each player to determine whether or not they should table their hand to compete for the pot. Perhaps the dealer should correct a player if they miscall a tabled hand, but I don't think they should just read it out otherwise until all hands are tabled or mucked.

You are misinformed.

On which part?

I am not misinformed about the meaning of "cards speak". I may be mistaken about whether or not it is standard practice for a dealer to read hands out loud as they are tabled at showdown, rather than waiting for all hands to be tabled or mucked. I believe, whether standard practice or not, it is wrong. It is a player's responsibility, not the dealer's, to determine if their hand is better than those tabled. The dealer reading hands as they are tabled is tantamount to "more than one player to hand".

Dealers are supposed to read the hands as they are tabled. We are not directed to wait until ALL the players have decided to table their hands. We read them as they are tabled. If we did it your way, we would be wasting a lot of time.

Thanks for the clarification. So, it's one more instance of house rules to benefit the house rather than the game or the players (more hands per hour to rake), like the way tournament "rebuys' have disappeared in favor of "re-entires". I'm an old school player. I don't think of winning a pot because a player misread my hand or his and mucked as an angle-shoot, but rather part of the game. I wouldn't intentionally miscall my hand, but I think the other player ought to be responsible for figuring out my hand when I table it, not the dealer.

We are supposed to keep the games moving... Not just because the casino wants us to but most players expect the game to move at a certain pace as well.

Isn't it wasting time reading all the hands? Shouldn't you be more worried about the people that don't want to table their hands when they are supposed to? That seems to waste way more time IMO.

I think you're taking what I say out of context.

anyone want to give input on the best days/times to play the 350 500k g?

I'm assuming friday and saturday will have softer fields, what about 11am vs. 7pm?

i love this poker room. i literally drive 7 hours from GA to play there on weekends. I drove down there specifically for the hot seat promo. I was bummed major that they did not ANNOUNCE a name every 30 minutes.

Please be strict with this promo and call it every 30 mins, some people are there just for it!

That is my only feedback. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that you guys have 1/1 and that it is 10 handed... maybe give an option for ten handed 1/2 tables and up?

havent been there during the week yet but your 30 hour chip promo is pretty dank as well.

also maybe add 2/4 Omaha H/L AND 1/2 PLO8 ten handed

but the biggest deal is calling the hot seats every :00 and :30

ten handed poker really sucks

Running it at randon times keeps players in their seats.If you run it exactly every 30 minutes players will be out of there seats more frequently.Its a good,sound business decision.

Ten handed poker makes for bigger pots. period.

I hear you on the not specifically calling the hot seat every 30 on the 30, but my table was keeping track one time and they didn't call a name for an hour and a half. One guy at my table was even ballsy enough to go tell them to call a name.
If i could verify 22 - 24 people got called during the 12 hour period it'd make me feel better about my drive of 7 hours to play there. I know everyone is not driving that far, and i know everyone isn't there for the promo, but some are.

If you are looking for bigger pots, a 1/1 game is not the place to find them. 2/4 limit games can consistently get bigger pots than that. Try the 1/2. At any rate, a 10 handed game absolutely, positively, does not mean bigger pots. 9 handed is a better game, and you'll get more hands in per hour.

As for the promo, they do call a name (a seat actually) at some point for sure every 30 minutes. If you haven't heard one in awhile, just check the screen to see if it's a new one. (They will have the last hot seat winner listed on the screen by the restrooms.)

you cant just say something, and say 'period" after it to make it true.

you are wrong. period.

I'm guessing you all haven't just sat 12+ hours @ 1/1 on Friday and Saturday? I have.
3 times in the past 2 months...

5x my full buyin first time I was there, 3x a few hours the next day
7.5x my BI the next time, 3x a few hours the next day
5x my BI again, and break even next day

I have never sat at 1/2 and had the same results. This could be due to player quality.

I HAVE 3.5x'd at 1/2 Harrah's New Orleans but I think it was 10 handed ( i could be wrong)... NOPE! just called their poker room and it is ten handed! On 9 handed 1/2 or 2/2 (J'ville) I average a 1.5x up and gosh it feels like a grind, poker shouldn't feel that way.

I am not the type of player who sits at a table and worries about hands / hour and rake and crap like that. I just KNOW when I sit down I'm gonna CRUSHHHHHH.

I say again, Ten handed poker makes for bigger pots. period. AND is better for rec players as it is more fun. Rec players are who we are trying to please, yes?

Most here won't understand your point especially since you are more than likely the first hot seat promo chasing 1/1 NL pro crusher, who prefers to play fewer hands vs. rec. players, that anyone has seen in these parts of late but some of us get it.

Maybe try the stud game I believe it plays 10 handed, maybe you could crush the old man coffees and you could also still chase the hot seat promo?

Of course, most of us would prefer more hands per hour. But all that really matters, is the cash in our pockets, at the end of a session. Period. < that does make it true...

I'll move up or I'll move down in stakes/games, if I notice a table that will accomplish that. I especially like to move down in stakes to where they respect my calls...