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03-23-2020 , 05:24 PM
I bet most casinos won't be opening back up anytime soon. They just don't want to close/cancel things too far out, so they'll do it a few weeks at a time.
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03-25-2020 , 10:51 PM
So this happened... I think that Local 2121 is the poker dealers union.

https://www.casino.org/news/connecti...losure-report/

https://www.theday.com/local-news/20...asinos-workers

Apparently Mohegan hasn’t done anything to their employees yet.
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03-27-2020 , 06:37 PM
They just cancelled all the shows/events I had booked through Friday April 24.

edit: and hotel can't be booked until Monday April 13.

Last edited by Lattimer; 03-27-2020 at 06:44 PM.
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03-27-2020 , 08:28 PM
Wonder what they're gonna end up doing about status and people that were close to the next tier.
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03-28-2020 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by prizminferno
Wonder what they're gonna end up doing about status and people that were close to the next tier.
If the place is mobbed when it re-opens, nothing. If it is near empty, you'll at least get the next tier.
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03-28-2020 , 02:15 PM
I can’t believe the changed the app again... And they made it worse!
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03-28-2020 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
If the place is mobbed when it re-opens, nothing. If it is near empty, you'll at least get the next tier.
most places will end up prorating requirments.
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04-10-2020 , 10:28 AM
If and when foxwoods reopens in stages I think the poker room will be the last to open.
Slots can be separated to give distance to players. blackjack etc. can open with 3-4 players per table but poker tables, will anyone want to play if they limit number to 3-5 players? Will dealers want to sit next to players in seats 1 and 10 every down?
One thing for sure I wont want to sit 10 handed for hours until this is 99% under control or a vaccine is out.
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04-10-2020 , 10:39 AM
i would love to find a legal casino right now with a 5 handed game. hardly any different than 6 max online, except the players would be much weaker and easier to beat since they wont be using a hud to cheat.
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04-10-2020 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Monty146
If and when foxwoods reopens in stages I think the poker room will be the last to open.
Slots can be separated to give distance to players. blackjack etc. can open with 3-4 players per table but poker tables, will anyone want to play if they limit number to 3-5 players? Will dealers want to sit next to players in seats 1 and 10 every down?
One thing for sure I wont want to sit 10 handed for hours until this is 99% under control or a vaccine is out.
The ONLY way the poker room goes to 8 or 9 handed or less is to put it in the SOP (Standard Operation Procedure). Otherwise it will remain 10 handed as approved by MTGC.
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04-10-2020 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Casinoplr
The ONLY way the poker room goes to 8 or 9 handed or less is to put it in the SOP (Standard Operation Procedure). Otherwise it will remain 10 handed as approved by MTGC.
We are currently standing 6 feet behind each other waiting to enter a half empty grocery store with most people this morning wearing masks. Until there is a vaccine we are going to have guidelines in place especially in heavily populated areas like the Northeast. My best guess would be poker rooms re-opening in July and 5 or 6-handed as the distancing guidelines wouldn't allow for more. I'll say there is close to a zero percent chance of 10-handed games returning before a vaccine, if ever. 10-handed doesn't exist anymore in most of the country anyway.
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04-10-2020 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
My best guess would be poker rooms re-opening in July and 5 or 6-handed as the distancing guidelines wouldn't allow for more.
The MTGC must approve something like that...no matter what.
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04-10-2020 , 04:22 PM
My god .
Do we REALLY need two people acting like they know it all itt?
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04-10-2020 , 04:27 PM
It's not like there's anything else to do.
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04-10-2020 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
My god .
Do we REALLY need two people acting like they know it all itt?
Nobody "knows" anything for sure although casinoplayer is correct in that the MTGC must approve any changes which unless they are blind to what is occurring around us should be the case. It is ok to logically formulate our own opinions and discuss what the future may hold. Personally I am not very optimistic on the remainder of 2020 pre-vaccine in regards to live poker.

Macau has slowed considerably since they reopened with many distancing restrictions playing a factor. They are probably more of a guide to Vegas as a travel destination but you can apply some of their effects of COVID-19 to our local rooms as well.
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04-11-2020 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
My god .
Do we REALLY need two people acting like they know it all itt?

Haven't you ever been at a poker table? Of course we dont need two know it alls yet, here we are...
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04-11-2020 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Nobody "knows" anything for sure although casinoplayer is correct in that the MTGC must approve any changes which unless they are blind to what is occurring around us should be the case. It is ok to logically formulate our own opinions and discuss what the future may hold. Personally I am not very optimistic on the remainder of 2020 pre-vaccine in regards to live poker.

Macau has slowed considerably since they reopened with many distancing restrictions playing a factor. They are probably more of a guide to Vegas as a travel destination but you can apply some of their effects of COVID-19 to our local rooms as well.

Well duh of course Macau is hurting. Two words: Travel Bans
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04-11-2020 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
We are currently standing 6 feet behind each other waiting to enter a half empty grocery store with most people this morning wearing masks. Until there is a vaccine we are going to have guidelines in place especially in heavily populated areas like the Northeast. My best guess would be poker rooms re-opening in July and 5 or 6-handed as the distancing guidelines wouldn't allow for more. I'll say there is close to a zero percent chance of 10-handed games returning before a vaccine, if ever. 10-handed doesn't exist anymore in most of the country anyway.
This will depend entirely on the availability of antibody testing, not a vaccine. Once people can be tested to determine they are "immune", they will not be subject to social distancing requirements. How that happens, and what the logistics of it will be... I don't know. But it is certainly likely to happen sooner than a vaccine, which is still probably more than a year away.
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04-14-2020 , 05:33 PM
CEO was canned effective immediately. Maybe he was giving away too many electric milk shake makers.
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04-14-2020 , 05:45 PM
The reason given is certainly plausible (left to spend more time with family), especially if any members have fallen ill. It's also possible that he saw the writing on the wall that the place is doomed and jumped ship. I don't see how they make their next loan payment on June 30.
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04-14-2020 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
The reason given is certainly plausible (left to spend more time with family), especially if any members have fallen ill. It's also possible that he saw the writing on the wall that the place is doomed and jumped ship. I don't see how they make their next loan payment on June 30.
There was no way they could make that payment before this happened. I was just trying to find the Annual Report, I have it at work but I can't remember how I found it now.
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04-14-2020 , 10:45 PM
Look, if creditors are giving people like me breaks during these times, even with the loss of revenue that Foxwoods has dealt with, they still have plenty of reasons to work with them and make a deal that all parties can live with.
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04-14-2020 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCNative
Look, if creditors are giving people like me breaks during these times, even with the loss of revenue that Foxwoods has dealt with, they still have plenty of reasons to work with them and make a deal that all parties can live with.
I think there might be deals made, too. However, personal and small business debt is a very different situation than Foxwoods'. There are a hell of a lot more assets they could acquire by sticking it to the them than the average person has, and even without that they could definitely add penalties and fees to the debt.
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04-15-2020 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
I think there might be deals made, too. However, personal and small business debt is a very different situation than Foxwoods'. There are a hell of a lot more assets they could acquire by sticking it to the them than the average person has, and even without that they could definitely add penalties and fees to the debt.
The only problem is that nobody can force them into bankruptcy because they are a soveriegn nation. Nations can't go bankrupt. They went through this during the last recession when they stiffed their lenders.

It may be that the CEO was insisting that payments to the tribe members be completely stopped, including salaries and the tribal council refused to accept that.
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04-15-2020 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
I think there might be deals made, too. However, personal and small business debt is a very different situation than Foxwoods'. There are a hell of a lot more assets they could acquire by sticking it to the them than the average person has, and even without that they could definitely add penalties and fees to the debt.
What assets? If the creditors don’t play nice what can they seize and monetize? The building is on Indian land and can’t be moved and can’t be operated without tribe agreeing. The machines might be leased. If so can’t be seized. Even if owned and subject to seizure where do you redeploy them?

The value is in the business and if you shut it down you can’t unilaterally reopen it. The best option for creditors is likely a combination of deferral, extension and restructuring with maybe even partial forgiveness.
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