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07-23-2020 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
We talk about already how much it makes difference to 94-6 situations. And if you look those hands calling of Ahigh paired board and horrible calls what if I make those will you then say I play them perfectly.



On this you're on point! They definitely have. There are lots of players that I have reported to support too that is using this kind of not allowed script.

How will I know that? Because:

1) I open client at any time of day and look for these nicknames from tables. I also check all stakes, full ring tables and omaha too. No one of these nicknames are not in tables.

2) I sit in and between 1-3 minutes (somethimes under minute) these nicknames are in same tables.

3) There are nicknames that come table same time with another of these nicknames. Latest example of these kind of players are Belarus nicknames Dilettantt and OmgAKs. There are also other suspicious things in their style that I've reported too.

3.1) They play always at same table. They always come to table with same time.
3.2) They never play big pot together. Many examples when other raise under the gun and other reraises instant fold utg.
3.3) Their timing takes longer when they are both going to hand than it takes when only 1 of then is on hand.
3.4) They have exact same stats. VPIP/PFR, position raise, 3bet, 4bet, fold to 3bet, everything same.

4) Once I played monthly tournament with huge megafield and huge amount of tables. One of these nicknames found me from there and did shout on chatbox to me.
Not sure what to make of this, BUT if you really think that this is what´s happening, why on earth are you still playing in formats (standard 6-max with waiting lists) and sites that would make it super easy to do what you claim is going on here?
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07-23-2020 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
888 will do absolutely nothing. These players are not breaking any rules. They are playing against you because you are an atrocious player.

How does this make you feel?
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.
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07-23-2020 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.
You've reported many times and they've done nothing. Either these players aren't using seating aids, or they are using them and the site can't detect it. Go play on another site or in a different game format if it bothers you that much.

Can't believe you're in your 50's and you spend your time donking away all your money like this.
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07-23-2020 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
On this you're on point! They definitely have. There are lots of players that I have reported to support too that is using this kind of not allowed script.
Bro..I'm sure support unsubscribed a LONG time ago.
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07-23-2020 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.

You still think you are not ******ed?
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07-23-2020 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.
888 support has gone down the drain a long time ago. Switch to a different site! I'd recommend Pokerstars, since there you can get all-in insurance and never get sucked out on again. Rake is much lower for 2NL as well.
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07-23-2020 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.
I would recommend teletubbyland.
Maybe you will be break even against a 2-year old child.
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07-23-2020 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Definitely wrong, it's highly against their rules and I've talked about this thing with them.

The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on 888.
Hahaha this guy

Just in case any of you were wondering how Paisting put this nonsense so eloquently - he stole it from a site that sells seating scripts:

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The use of seating aids is prohibited on 888 and they strongly enforce that policy by warning players and in some cases (temporarily) suspending their accounts. It is not even allowed to have seating software running on other platforms while also playing on Pacific Poker.
Kudos for making the effort to change the site´s name at the end. Now obviously his content stealing strategy is similar to his hand posting strategy so this is how this paragraph actually ends:

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Therefore I decided to completely cancel support for 888 in Octobre 2018. I have emailed the 888 support, asking for an official statement regarding the use of NEED4SEAT on other platforms, while playing at 888, but I am still waiting for a final answer.
On a side note, a small stakes subscription will set you back $125 per month, so it might actually be worth it if you can sit on all of Paisting´s tables most of the time.

https://need-4-seat.com/blog/how-pok...eating-scripts
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07-23-2020 , 02:01 PM
If you don't believe me just mail to them.

SEATING SCRIPTS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON 888

All reports of fraud are followed up and investigated thoroughly. We have a dedicated team constantly searching for evidence of fraud and collusion.

In the past we have come together with other poker sites to protect honest players from such incidents. 888poker has the reputation in being extremely thorough at investigating such matters and bringing them to a swift conclusion.
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07-23-2020 , 02:07 PM
If these guys didn’t bum hunt you you’d probably only lose at -220bb/100 for the next 15 years as opposed to -230bb/100 for the past 15.
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07-23-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
If you don't believe me just mail to them.

SEATING SCRIPTS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON 888

All reports of fraud are followed up and investigated thoroughly. We have a dedicated team constantly searching for evidence of fraud and collusion.

In the past we have come together with other poker sites to protect honest players from such incidents. 888poker has the reputation in being extremely thorough at investigating such matters and bringing them to a swift conclusion.
fiiiiiiishhhhh
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07-23-2020 , 02:55 PM
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If these guys didn’t bum hunt you you’d probably only lose at -220bb/100 for the next 15 years as opposed to -230bb/100 for the past 15.
I think its the opposite. Vs regs paisting will get more folds as they tend to not make multiway mistakes (e.g. calling an open shove in MP with ATo) that are -EV for both players.

His winrate vs regs will be higher as paradoxical as this sounds.
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07-23-2020 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betpot
His loss rate vs regs will be lower as paradoxical as this sounds.
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07-23-2020 , 04:23 PM
I don't frequent this thread often so I'm not completely up to date with the latest developments other than the last couple of pages, but I agree with the people suggesting just to cut losses at 888 and move to Stars. If he were to play zoom, his winrate would likely improve by like 150bb/100 since I would guess that most of the players there aren't aware of him and would massively overfold to his shoves. Additionally, the pool is liquid enough to eliminate any predatory practices and since he goes on and on about how unlucky he is, he can just cash out his equity every time he gets all in. I honestly have no idea why he keeps playing at 888 when he's completely aware of what is going on regarding him getting bumhunted by regs who normally play higher and soft-collude with one-another. For that reason, playing at Stars would probably be the best way for him to go.
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07-23-2020 , 04:49 PM
Because every day he wakes up, straps on his helmet, sits at the computer and thinks he's about to crush it.
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07-23-2020 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Im Nacho Friend
Believe it was Ivey. I think it was something along the lines of: "The rate of suckouts at 2NL is 83% so just skip these stakes. You really want to start at 25NL where the suckout rate is 5%."
No man you got it all wrong. It was Dwan who said that and he was talking about 5NL. 2NL apparently have a reasonable number of suckouts
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07-23-2020 , 05:09 PM
From now on everybody write the following sentence and nothing else to OP:

Paisting, switch to Stars so that you can utilize the cash-out option.
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07-23-2020 , 05:11 PM
Paisting, switch to Stars so that you can utilize the cash-out option.
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07-23-2020 , 05:36 PM
Paisting, switch to Stars so that you can utilize the cash-out option.
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07-23-2020 , 05:44 PM
Paisting, switch to Stars so that you can utilize the cash-out option

Just be aware of the Know your customer requirements, play Zoom, and don't lose too much.
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07-23-2020 , 05:45 PM
I can see it now; Paisting 5b jamming the flop with no pair and cashing out his 12c equity.
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07-23-2020 , 05:46 PM
Paisting, quit poker and do something else with your money and life. Maybe invest the money in help for problem gambling.
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07-23-2020 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DianeAbbott
I can see it now; Paisting 5b jamming the flop with no pair and cashing out his 12c equity.
You actually see some people call all-in at 6+ holdem (the only holdem worth playing) with K8o and insta-cashout their 30% EV

Like what the **** if you're there to -EV gamble like you'd do at slot machines, at least leave yourself a chance to win by luck
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07-23-2020 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Paisting, quit poker and do something else with your money and life. Maybe invest the money in help for problem gambling.
This is probably the better suggestion for him tbh
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07-23-2020 , 09:20 PM
Paisting, switch to Stars so that you can utilize the cash-out option

Just be aware of the Know your customer requirements, play Zoom, and don't lose too much.
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