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07-18-2020 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
First hands today. On purpose I put that small stack in because he tend to flat with almost any2 against smaller raise.

Board is made for worst hands. Any diamond, any trash ace will suckout.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

femos30 (UTG): $0.88 (44 bb)
Dilettantt (MP): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (CO): $3.83 (192 bb)
TTFL228 (BU): $2.32 (116 bb)
itachisan (SB): $2.00 (100 bb)
Travinka (BB): $0.88 (44 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with J J
femos30 (UTG) raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $1, 1 fold, itachisan (SB) 4-bets to $2 (all-in), 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) calls $1

Flop: ($4.08) 8 A A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($4.08) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.08) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.08 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
itachisan (SB) shows 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

Paisting (CO) shows J J (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

itachisan (SB) wins $3.83
How is him flatting any2 a bad thing?
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07-18-2020 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by IlikeChicken
This is exactly what i mean by you playing terribly and luckily get it in good.
Then don’t talk anymore about poker. You’re the guy with 88.
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07-18-2020 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Then don’t talk anymore about poker. You’re the guy with 88.
You're the guy stuck 100k playing 2nl.
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07-18-2020 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
First hands today. On purpose I put that small stack in because he tend to flat with almost any2 against smaller raise.

Board is made for worst hands. Any diamond, any trash ace will suckout.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

femos30 (UTG): $0.88 (44 bb)
Dilettantt (MP): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (CO): $3.83 (192 bb)
TTFL228 (BU): $2.32 (116 bb)
itachisan (SB): $2.00 (100 bb)
Travinka (BB): $0.88 (44 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with J J
femos30 (UTG) raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $1, 1 fold, itachisan (SB) 4-bets to $2 (all-in), 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) calls $1

Flop: ($4.08) 8 A A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($4.08) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.08) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.08 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
itachisan (SB) shows 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

Paisting (CO) shows J J (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

itachisan (SB) wins $3.83
If you want to know why your red line is positive while you´re getting murdered in showdown pots, look no further.
In terms of the big picture, it doesn´t even matter that villain had a worse hand in this specific instance.
I love how you basically admit (to yourself) that you make it so big that villain should fold all worse hands and should only call you with better hahaha.
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07-19-2020 , 01:24 AM
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First hands today
We know OP is speaking truthfully here because of the stack sizes of the rest of the table.
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07-19-2020 , 11:26 AM
I never actually saw Pasting play, until right now. It's kinda bizarre.

He's playing fine for NL2 I guess and then he loses a single hand, not even a bad beat, just losing a flip like with 77 vs. AK. and BOOM! Just like the poker version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. All-In-Hyde.

And don't complain Pasting! I saw you win with 66 vs. AA with a 6 on the river and you won one of your J2o-is-good-enough-to-shove hands.
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07-19-2020 , 11:33 AM
I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.

Paisting, I'd like to know what you think about it, it is fairly written?
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07-19-2020 , 01:00 PM
Man I can't even find this thread entertaining anymore, at least 6betme has a tiny sliver of self-awareness and isn't nearly this mentally ill. That write up was just ****ing depressing

OP's life is just constant emotional suffering and there's basically zero chance of him ever escaping that
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07-19-2020 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadsaregone
I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.

Paisting, I'd like to know what you think about it, it is fairly written?
Just a minor edit - 6BetPot is 6BetMe
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07-19-2020 , 01:54 PM
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I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.
Great write up

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Just a minor edit - 6BetPot is 6BetMe
No we are two different people.
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07-19-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betpot
Great write up



No we are two different people.
Whoops, my bad.
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07-19-2020 , 03:40 PM
The history of the biggest loser in history.

One day he'll be down 250k+ and still tell everyone to gtfo and "don't talk anymore about poker".


Paisting, please answer these two simple questions:

- How old are you?

- How does this fast loan-thing work? Do you have securities/property?
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07-19-2020 , 04:51 PM
I’m still convinced it’s just some rich dude trolling for shits and giggles.
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07-19-2020 , 05:00 PM
Assuming this isn't somehow a multi year troll, but people have shared a similar thought process in regards to other forms of gambling.

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Originally Posted by Paisting
You can be sure if I ever win those money back that I will never be involved with poker anymore.
You are "playing"(gambling) out of revenge and lack of self control, this is a form gambling addiction can take. This causes you to not even care about the game you are playing, as demonstrated by you multiple times denying advice and even somehow implying you know better at any single spot than anyone in this thread.

Your entire drive is just making back what you lost, common events, like losing 80-20s, feel even more profound to you because it feels like its just another one you have to make back later, and you can tell it has piled up a lot already. This causes an emotional snowball, blocking out your ability to learn and even focus on anything else other than the sensation of "win those money back". You physically will not be able to do the things necessary to make money from the game, as you are only focused on the helplessness and events out of your control, it blocks the time and energy needed to learn the things necessary to make the bad luck not matter in terms of you actually making money. Your ego cannot accept defeat, nobodies ego likes that.

You don't see it, but your mind is telling you a false story. That you will get it back, and its only just a matter of time, not the effort of learning in depth theory or self control during volatile times. All this advice has probably been given before, but some days are different emotionally, and sometimes things can click.
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07-19-2020 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadsaregone
I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.

Paisting, I'd like to know what you think about it, it is fairly written?

That was good!


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07-19-2020 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
Assuming this isn't somehow a multi year troll, but people have shared a similar thought process in regards to other forms of gambling.



You are "playing"(gambling) out of revenge and lack of self control, this is a form gambling addiction can take. This causes you to not even care about the game you are playing, as demonstrated by you multiple times denying advice and even somehow implying you know better at any single spot than anyone in this thread.

Your entire drive is just making back what you lost, common events, like losing 80-20s, feel even more profound to you because it feels like its just another one you have to make back later, and you can tell it has piled up a lot already. This causes an emotional snowball, blocking out your ability to learn and even focus on anything else other than the sensation of "win those money back". You physically will not be able to do the things necessary to make money from the game, as you are only focused on the helplessness and events out of your control, it blocks the time and energy needed to learn the things necessary to make the bad luck not matter in terms of you actually making money. Your ego cannot accept defeat, nobodies ego likes that.

You don't see it, but your mind is telling you a false story. That you will get it back, and its only just a matter of time, not the effort of learning in depth theory or self control during volatile times. All this advice has probably been given before, but some days are different emotionally, and sometimes things can click.
All of this
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07-19-2020 , 09:10 PM
Let's just assume for the sake of things that you get rid of all the tilt problems, improve your game, and go on to play perfect poker for the rest of your life.....

Who's to say that negative variance won't rear it's ugly head get in the way of you trying to grind back your money?

Even if you're doing everything right, things can still go bad time and time again as you've already seen for yourself.

You're better off walking away from Poker and trying to reclaim your life. You still have time.

As someone who used to help people in their 40's with no resume get jobs and turn things around in the past, I know it's possible. Especially if you put even half the effort that you have put into Poker.

It's hard, but you gotta let this game go. And you can.
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07-20-2020 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tisrael2125
I’m still convinced it’s just some rich dude trolling for shits and giggles.
I love how you just made that up with zero evidence at all.
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07-20-2020 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey
I´m not saying you should do it all the time, but it might make sense in certain situations. I obviously haven´t played a lot vs you, but from what I remember you were actually super predictable if you were not in "all-in any two cards" mode.

As an aside, no clue why you use "not +EV" as an argument when on the other hand you do so many things that clearly carry negative expectation.

It´s funny that you would respond to this specific post when you ignored so many other posts of mine, e.g. the one about your lack of rakeback which likely costs you >$1,000 per year. 6betpot/achmed actually posted that, judging from his sample, 25% of your losses go to rake, which would be pretty sick if true. Your hatred for achmed may make sense to you, but it´s actually misguided if the site takes so much of your money for no reason (and doesn´t even have to minraise you in the process). You would have a long way to go if you want to actually win at Poker, but just think about how much you´re leaving on the table by sticking with 888 - a site that won´t even bother to protect or reward you in any way, shape or form.
This is yesterday´s NL2 Cash Game Leaderboard on PartyPoker:



You have to factor in at least 25% rakeback on top of that, so every single one of those guys has gotten at least 75% rakeback, and the rake on PartyPoker is lower than 888´s rake anyways.

The guy who finished 1st actually managed to "earn" >200% rake"back".

I mean, **** HUD´s and **** your "strategy" anyway (neither of them prevent you from losing at colossal rates), but moving back to PartyPoker is just a no brainer. You might even come close to breaking even if you finish 1st most days.

Even if you don´t like money, you might be interested in finding out that people cannot bum hunt you on Partypoker (as easily as on 888).
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07-20-2020 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadsaregone
I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.

Paisting, I'd like to know what you think about it, it is fairly written?
well written, but don't take too seriously what Paisting want us to believe.

f.e. "he claims to play 5-7 days a week for 4-8 hours a day." and his 1 year graph includes only 350k hands and regularly posts 20k hand months which is even less.

anyone familiar with poker knows that's rather a 1 hour/day volume with his multitabling shoving any2 style. he probably lies to himself about his work ethic and poker knowledge, IQ, etc. just to feel better. he even lies himself about the other players tendencies just to let himself make bad plays.

same applies to poker books, training materials, etc, he might've bought them, but put zero effort into understanding concepts, probably never even opened most of them.

all he does is transforming poker into scratchers without the jackpot.
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07-20-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadsaregone
I made a write up of the history of Paisting on Reddit. It tells his story from start to finish.
What a weird stalker thing to write.
You are more damaged than Paisting.
How many hours you sunk into stalking & trolling someone.
Sad bored lonely person?

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07-20-2020 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreF
I never actually saw Pasting play, until right now. It's kinda bizarre.

He's playing fine for NL2 I guess and then he loses a single hand, not even a bad beat, just losing a flip like with 77 vs. AK. and BOOM! Just like the poker version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. All-In-Hyde.
Yeah same, when he recorded some of his play a while back it seemed ok albeit some minor mistakes but didn't see him blow up. Perhaps he should invest in this, will cost less than he spunks off in 10 minutes at NL2 when on tilt.

http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/mentalgameofpoker/
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07-20-2020 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey
This is yesterday´s NL2 Cash Game Leaderboard on PartyPoker:



You have to factor in at least 25% rakeback on top of that, so every single one of those guys has gotten at least 75% rakeback, and the rake on PartyPoker is lower than 888´s rake anyways.

The guy who finished 1st actually managed to "earn" >200% rake"back".

I mean, **** HUD´s and **** your "strategy" anyway (neither of them prevent you from losing at colossal rates), but moving back to PartyPoker is just a no brainer. You might even come close to breaking even if you finish 1st most days.

Even if you don´t like money, you might be interested in finding out that people cannot bum hunt you on Partypoker (as easily as on 888).
Exactly, 888poker has the worst rake of any site for 2NL. 5% effectively uncapped with almost 0% rakeback, and they allow for blatant bumhunting from the lobby. Pretty much every other site would be a better option. I know Paisting dislikes Pokerstars because Blackrain's outdated content says players are too good there, but it's actually ridiculously soft AND the 2NL rake is 30% less.
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07-20-2020 , 05:07 PM
Rake is the one thing stopping Paisting from being a winning player. But seriously tho stop playing on 888.
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07-20-2020 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey
This is yesterday´s NL2 Cash Game Leaderboard on PartyPoker:



You have to factor in at least 25% rakeback on top of that, so every single one of those guys has gotten at least 75% rakeback, and the rake on PartyPoker is lower than 888´s rake anyways.
25% rakeback only if they rake more than $150 a week. I doubt anyone does that at nl2 except maybe the bots playing PLO2. Obviously Party would still be a better option than playing on ****ing 888...
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