so i guess the "ID" text is part of the tournament table title?

depending on what you would use for cash tables, you can combine words with the OR separator "|", so for example, if all cash tables had the word "cash", you could do this:

however, it might be easier to just try to use "/" since that slash is usually used on all tables to separate the stakes of small and big blind

Thanks for the help guys gonna try them out now!

Still isn't working for sng tables. SaT recognizes every other window so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Does the program recognize tables by anything other than the title bar?

combination of window class and window title. post some examples of your tournament tables and we'll see what we can come up with

also, paypal is now an accepted payment method

Any news on the end of hand detection? I would appreciate if you could add this at least for pokerstars in which I assume most of us play.

no news sorry. when its added it will work for all supported sites

I use to use Sat only on my laptop.
Now I need to use Sat on my desktop, but it said that my license is already in use (even if my laptop is off).

send me an email or PM with your license code and i'll unlock it for you

Just set up SAT on new computer. Little problem. I set the Pokerstars tables to tile, and used that size table for the F7 click to get the measurements. But now, the tables are a tiny bit bigger, with a little overlap. Not sure why.

do you mean Stars tables are a little bit bigger, or other sites? every site resizes tables slightly different, so the proportions will be slightly off. this is unavoidable since every site's tables are drawn differently

if its Stars' tables which are now slightly bigger and overlapping, even though you used the same Stars tables during setup, then this shouldnt happen. you can try making a new layout again (File -> New Layout), or see if you can maybe move each tile around with the Visualize Grid button

Yes I mean Stars tables.

Just so you know what I mean. I would tile 6 x tables on one monitor (through stars). Delete all but 1 of them. Start SAR and use that 1 x table (F7) to take measurement. Then, when SAT is in play, the tables have a very slight overlap (which they didn't when I took the F7 measurement.

Just downloaded. I'm having a problem when adding a room. I select Merge from the drop down menu and then click include room. I then follow the next step by taking a seat but nothing happens when I press F9. The volume thingy displays and nothing else happens. The same thing happens when I try to set up the layout in the Grid Layout Wzard. When it instructs me to open a table, click on the table, and then press F7 all it ends up doing is muting my computer. I'm making sure to run as admin, btw. Help?

very strange, this shouldnt happen. have you tried re-doing it with a new layout?


it seems like your keyboard is using the F7/F9 etc keys for volume control. is it possible to disable that somehow?

Yes I deleted my layout file and started again.

dont really know what to tell you... do you mind posting your layout file? click "File -> Current Layout" and copy and paste

i suppose a solution that you can do, is replicate your process again, but before pressing F7, first resize the one table slightly smaller. then after setup is finished, move each slot just a tad using the Visualize Grid so that they dont overlap

I am having problems with black nova theme on pokerstars. I created a custom site and located the buttons for SAT.

I was confused on one part of the software wizard. It asked me where I click on the fold button. But as everybody knows, the location of the "fold in advance" button is different than the actual big fold button. On my theme on stars, the advanced autfold is slightly higher than the big fold button. So when the software asked me where the fold button was, I clicked where the "advanced fold" button was. Then when the software asked me where the whole button was, I highlighted the big fold button.

After I finished with the wizard, the software now says my fold button is black and that I may run into problems. When I tried playing with it, it really wasn't doing much (my tables remained tiled).


One more question,

The hotkeys explanation for external VPIP are a little confusing. Is this only needed if you use shortcuts postflop? The only shortcuts I use are autfold (right click mouse), Mouse button X1 (betsizing), Mouse button X2 (betsizing), Scroll button (betsizing). I do not use the call button as a shortcut. So does this mean I do not neat to create external keys??

when it asks for the Fold button, you'll have to just click in the middle of the big fold button. first it asks for a specific click location, then it asks for the whole rectangular region. the first specific fold button click location should be clicked in the middle of the button, but not over the word "Fold".

since you say the advance fold checkbox is further higher than the actual fold button, you will not be able to use the Fold hotkey within SaT to hit that checkbox.

i'm not familiar with the black nova theme, but if the fold button is indeed black, you will run into problems. in the next update i plan on trying to add the stars nova themes, and i will try my best to work around these issues.

as for the external vpip hotkeys, these are used if you use Tile Setting = After Entering Pot. in this mode, all the tables will remain in the stack until you enter the pot by Raising or Calling. therefore, if you have external hotkeys that you use for Raise or Call, you'll want to set those up in SaT as well. for those betsizing hotkeys that you listed, if they change the betsize and click the Bet button, then you would want to set them up. if they just change the number in the box, and then you click Bet with your mouse, then you shouldnt need it.

if you need further help, just ask

Greg -

So in the other pokerstars layouts, the advanced auto fold button is in the same location as the big fold button? And this is true for most poker sites? I just don't understand how SAT knows where to click to "autofold in advance"? I understand how it knows where to hit the big fold button, because we show it.

You have to excuse me because I have always tiled my tables. So I have grown use to autofolding in advance like a maniac and really need this at this time. I suppose once I start cascading I am waiting for the tables to pop up and not autofolding in advance??

thanks for any help, I just want to be able to autofold in advance with stars built in shortcuts.

SaT only knows one specific location to click. during the wizard, when it asks to click on the fold button, this is the location it uses. grabbing the rectangle is for a different purpose

so yes, on most sites, the advance fold checkbox is directly "underneath" the actual fold button, and most of the built in sites in SaT will click on this advance fold checkbox too. for example, you can test this by using PokerStarsClassic theme and including that in SaT, and then setting up a Fold hotkey in SaT and trying it out.

if the advance fold checkbox would not appear underneath the actual Fold button, then SaT will not be able to click it. however, in this case, i suppose you could still use an external program such as TableNinja to handle your Folding for you, and use the SaT hotkeys just for table movement in/out of the stack and tiled grid.

thanks for the quick answers greg. I am getting closer.

Okay so now I am able to move the tables from being tiled to being cascaded if I manually hit the fold button (either one).

However, I am using Stars builtin shortcuts to autofold (right mouse click). When I do this, SAT apparently does not recognize it because the table stays tiled. How can I tell SAT that I am folding with my right mouse click (using stars beta shortcuts)?

thanks for the help and sorry about the newbie questions. But I really think the SAT needs a better FAQ, especially a troubleshooting FAQ.

oh, i did not know that stars now has built in hotkeys into their client

so you want the tiled tables to return to the stack when you use right click fold, yes? heres what you do: set up a hotkey for "Stack Table" within SaT, and type in "~RButton" as the hotkey. the 'RButton' means right click, and the ~ prefix means to pass the hotkey through to windows to other programs (such as stars, TN, windows right click)

and you are right, SaT def needs better FAQ and documentation, i am severely lacking there

i was wondering if it was possible to have a stack of tables really small or off screen and everytime a hand needed action the table would start auto tiling in preset locations and once a hand was folded it went back onto the main stack(offscreen). I want the table to stay in the position it gets tiled to as long as im still in the hand (only goes back to the stack once the hand is folded)

Is there a way i can do this?

thats pretty much exactly what the program does. have you tried it?

as for having the stack smaller, thats not possible at the moment, but you can def move the stack offscreen. use the Visualize Grid function to place the slots where you want

can you link me where to dl it and any other programs ill need for it to run?

Thanks.

I dont really wanna look through whole thread to find the link :P