PROBLEM: I have an external monitor which I sometimes use along with my laptop. When I use it, I have SAT open on it. When I am on only my laptop without my external monitor, SAT doesn't show up because it tries to go up to my monitor which does not exist. In windows the settings say my monitor is not plugged in and everything else runs normally and automatically goes to my laptop screen.

To fix it I have to plug in my monitor, drag SAT down to my laptop screen, unplug my monitor again, and then I can use it normally. But it's kind of annoying when I forget to do this, and it's kind of annoying that I have to do this at all.

Help?

yeah this is exactly the problem, merge doesn't display stakes in the title of the window, so there is no way for SaT to determine if you're within the micro stakes. if you buy the full version everything will work fine, and if it doesnt you can get a refund. if you want i can just extend your trial period for another week or so and you can check and make sure it works how you want it. just post your MFP ID from the Register button on the About tab in the software

SaT "remembers" its last open location, really it just stores it in the layout ini file under the settings "gui_x" and "gui_y"

so for example if your laptop is 17" and 1920x1080 and your external extends it further, lets say SaT is at pixel location 2400x800, it will attempt to open there again, but since the monitor isnt attached, all you see is 1920 pixels wide on your laptop, while the SaT window is still open but just off screen.

easiest solution is obv drag SaT back to your laptop main screen before closing. but if you forget, instead of going through the hassle of having to plug in your monitor, you can just edit your layout ini file and change those two settings above, probably just set them both to 0, save the file, then open SaT

I have the same problem with certain programs (firefox also does this) when I view them on an external monitor, then restart the laptop later without it. I wrote this little script that moves all the windows to the top left corner. I use it on Win7 but should work on XP too.

I have a problem that tables in need of action aren't getting to the top quick enough. Like I'm staring at a hand waiting to auto fold and I can see on my task bar that a table is in need of action, but SAT won't go to that table until the hand on the table in view has folded. I've clicked on these tables to check and often they are in timebank.

hrmm, i assume you are using Tile Setting = After entering pot, and this is preflop action where you are waiting for tables to pop to the top of the stack

are you sure that they eventually do pop to the top of the stack? can you try using Tile Setting = Action required, put one table in the stack, and ensure that it correctly pops to the grid in a timely fashion when its your turn?

if the above works fairly quick, then maybe SaT is just getting bogged down with too many tables on your computer. this is the best computer set up you can use for the fastest performance with SaT:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/performance

other than that, you can also try decreased the Engine Delay in Advanced Options as well. that is the time in milliseconds that SaT loops through the tables to scan if they need action or not. you could try cutting a few 100 ms off which means SaT will scan a bit quicker

Yes I am using 'after entering the pot'. I can't be sure that the tables were finding their way to the top every time as I clicked on them a few times, but they definitely did a few times.

I am not sure exactly what you wanted from changing it to action required, but I really dislike that option & it feels buggy. It works in principle.

well it was just to test, i want you to use Tile Setting = Action required and only one table, put it in stack, and wait for your turn to act. the table should quickly move to the grid. we need to ensure that this is working properly. SaT uses this same mechanism for detecting action in the "after entering pot" setting that you prefer, for popping tables to the top of the stack. so if the test works properly and quickly, then we can assume that SaT would in fact be bringing your tables to the top, but its just bogging down and you can try those other suggestions i mentioned. if the test fails, then you probably need to remove and re-include your Sites in SaT

I increased the engine delay speed. It seems to help. Btw if I hotkey a table to stay, will it stay in that spot until I request it to go back into the stack or is there a set time it will auto go back to the stack?

hrmm.. DECREASING the engine delay is what i thought would help, not INCREASING. but whatever. if it aint broke, dont fix it. seriously.

are you talking about the "keep in grid" hotkey? that hotkey will leave a table into the stack indefinitely. it will never move until you send it back to the stack (first you will have to use the hotkey on the table again to toggle the "keep in grid" feature off).

Sorry decreasing is what I meant. Yes, keep in grid... that's great then.

It would be great...if you could reduce the size of the lobby / menu page (whatever you call it) so it was smaller and you only had the START / STOP and the number of tables visible.

Has anyone mentioned how awesome end of hand detection would be (lol)?

yeah the main tab in SaT has redundant information, i wanted to make the interface a bit more user friendly, but theres still work to be done

i honestly think that end of hand detection is not that important. as in, the improvements gained probably won't be as big a deal as it may seem. but i know many people want it and i have been really busy and i know that sounds like continual excuses which i suppose it is. maybe i'll be able to get some work done over the holidays if i have some free time, no guarantees

If the table doesn't move back to the stack then after you've up all of your grid slots you essentially have a grid of 8 tables and a stack of 4.

The 8 grid tables never change or move and the stack of 4 stay there as well.

Now just think how powerful it would be if tables automatically moved back to the stack and left grid slots open for active tables rather than just clogging up the grid even when they are not active.

the tables do leave the grid and move back to the stack whenever you click Fold or use one of your "stacking" hotkeys within SaT

currently, they will just not automatically return from the grid to the stack when the hand ends without you folding


i understand, but how do you define "active"? a table that you are currently involved in a hand on? so if your 8 grid slots are full, it means you are involved in 8 hands. now lets say one of those 8 is left in the grid because showdown has been reached and a new hand is dealt (or you've bet and everyone folded and the hand is over). well, within the next 10 seconds or so, you will be dealt a new hand, where you can then fold+stack the table and it will be removed from your grid. or, you can choose to play the new hand that you are dealt and then the table remains in the grid as it should since you are now involved in a hand again.

anyway, it seems as if im defending not developing this feature, which is not really the point because it WILL get done at some point

+1 for end of hand detection

I've noticed a bug with cake version 1. When someone shoves all in over your bet, the table doesn't pop up from stack. I'm not sure if its just preflop or all the time, but I'm always timing down and only way I remember to go back to that table is an alert from cake.

this is actually a known issue and should be mentioned on the cake1 faq page

the problem is that for cake, instead of using the 'fold' button for action detection, we use the 'bet' button. the reason for this is because when you can check for free, there is no fold button visible, but rather only the check and bet buttons.

however, as you note, when someone shoves over you, the table is not detected as requiring action because there is no bet button visible, but rather only fold and call. i believe this error only happens when the person shoving has you covered, because then you cannot raise allin yourself, which would mean that a 'bet' button would have to be visible.

so it was a trade off since cake1 is one of the few sites that doesnt show allow you to fold when you can check for free (other sites give you a popup box warning you)

I honestly think it will be a huge improvement. For a setup like mine with a stack out of view and a grid of 6 in front of me, it is one less click and also keeps the grid cleaner by not having unnecesary tables there (even for a couple of seconds). Appreciate you considering it though.

hey greg,

unfortunately party had a little update on their layout. SaT isn't working anymore (modern). Possible to get this fixed?

+1

+2. For $17.95/month, this should be fixed quickly.

Honestly, given what this program costs, the fix should be up today at the absolute latest. We'll see.

been busy playing poker all day (live). will have to get to this tomorrow. what exactly is the changes?

btw, this is one reason the Custom Site Creator was built, so if changes like this occur, and i'm not on the ball, people can still spend 10 mins reconfiguring and be up and running until official support is fixed

The custom site creator doesn't work for this. It freaks out like crazy and is unusable with the Party modern theme.

This is the reason we supposedly pay $18/mo though is so the software is fixed within hours on a normal business day.

You can't charge more than any other poker program by a ****load and then not offer just absolutely amazing support. People look for (and find) alternatives when you do that.