i'm not sure if it will work with that mod. as long as the buttons haven't moved, then it SHOULD be ok. if it doesn't work with the built in OnGame settings, you can always try using "custom" site and going through the wizard

unfortunately not at this time

I just want to say here that I think SAT is fairly priced and I'm a happy user. It pays back for itself if you are any good.
And if you are not good, you should be playing on 2 NL or 5 NL, and there SAT is FREE.
So I really don't see the problem.

Quick question about setting my SAT up.

I play on iPoker so I really hate that they dont have a stacking feature. They do have a cascade but... its not the same lol. I want to set up my stack and tile so that my tables always stay stacked, even when the action is on me. The only tie Iw ant a table to move into the grid is when I tell it to go there from a hotkey. How do I go about doing this?

I tried having the tile setting to never but the tables still seem to leave the stack when its my turn to act.

Tile Setting = Never, should do it.

Tile Setting = Action required, means that tables move when its your turn

Tile Setting = After entering pot, means tables move after you've taken a non-fold aciton

Can you try something else just to test? Use Tile Setting = After entering pot, and see if the tables correctly stay in the stack until AFTER you act.

The only other times I can think of that a table would move to grid is if your New and Old tables settings are putting tables there. Otherwise, with Tile Setting 'Never', they should never leave the stack...

So if/when someone else releases a cheaper version, you will stick with S&T?

I'm not asking Greg to lower his price, just pointing out that when a cheaper version comes out he will have priced himself out of the market. In fact, his abnormally high price is the incentive for people to release a cheaper version.

To be honest, I've never compared prices of poker software. I'm just looking to what I like the most and what fits my needs the most. As long as the prices are reasonable, they are not a deciding factor.

It would be cool if SAT had a way of bringing attention to a table that is asking if you want to rebuy or add on. I play SNGs and MTTs and it's so frustrating when I have a stack with a rebuy tournament and I can't get to it because it's impossible to shuffle through because there is always a table popping up on top. Iv missed so many rebuys and add ons.

what site do you play on? for Stars, maybe TableNinja can auto-rebuy for you. some type of script to automate rebuys and addons would probably be the best solution

the problem is, each site does rebuys differently, as far as i know. is it always a popup box? i mean, ideally yeah, we would want to move the table to grid when it asks for us to rebuy. but even then, the table would move, but perhaps the popup would stay stuck underneath the stack tables..

i'm open to suggestions on how to handle it if you have them

Yeah I play on merge. I realized this might be hard for you to do for that reason, being different sites have different pop ups. Unfornutaly mergekeys don't handle add ons or rebuys.

So I'm using the Black Nova Theme for Stars, but I just selected the Old Black in StackandTile and did the F9/F10 normally. It seems to be working for now, but any reason I might have trouble in the future?

the different themes on stars offset the buttons just slightly. and some themes are based off others, and everything is ok. i haven't tried the Black Nova theme or looked into the layout of the buttons.

most likely the issue that you would face is that when clicking the actual buttons with your mouse, the table doens't move into grid or move back to stack, because SaT thinks the rectangle of the button is either bigger/smaller. its not a huge issue by any means.

if you notice strange behavior, just post here and we'll try to figure out whats up. of course, you could always add a 'custom' site and configure it yourself, but its probably unneccessary

When I use the custom site creator, and moved on to the "test fold click", no options seems to work, it doesnt fold when its my turn... This is on entraction...

*Problem solved: I didnt have my standard table size, seems you have to have that

yeah, and i've run into MANY problems with entraction, theres no guarantees that it willl work even creating a custom site

Hey, don't know if it is possible but I would be gratefull if you add possibility to add more buttons except fold,call,bet via custom site creator. I just need way to assign hotkey for timebank

I just downloaded the trial version and i have some questions:

1)Can i play for 15 days even at 22-30$ limits?
2)every time i have to manage the site i will play?because every time i open the program the setting that i choose (ongame for example doesnt appear)
3)WHen i open new tables they open in the center of my screen and when i fold they move in the corner.Is that right?
4)I tried to put hotkey for stack tables and i put the 's' on keyboard but for some reason it appears as an error
5)When it comes to my turn and no one has bet and i press the fold button then the table is moving to the top left with the other tables but the boxes of check fold is still there as a result i time out.Is this a bug?
6)Do you have auto sit in option when the time is out and you sit out?
7)every time an error message is appear saying that i dont have a +-q in this keyboard etc etc.DO you know why is doing that?
8)Is there any way to do the following?Lets say you play 20 tourns and you are in bubble in 4 and it is imprortant.Is there any way to leave the 4 tables all the time open and stack the other 16 and when action is required the tables will tile while the other 4 tables are still open?
9)is there any way to close all the messages of winning a tournament etc with your software?


thx and sorry if i am annoying

yeah this might be added at some point

1. yes the 15 day trial period will work for all stakes
2. no, once you set up your sites, it should save. you did click Save, right?
3. tables should open wherever you have the 'New Tables' setting set to. when you fold, they should move back to the stack
4. it should work. what is the error?
5. what site? on the built in sites, it should attempt to click Check if its possible
6. no, but there is the 'Old Tables' setting, which means that if there is no action in 5 minutes, then the tables should move to the grid (or wherever you put it) then you should be able to see if you've sat out. usually 5 minutes means you would have missed maybe 1-2 hands
7. this sounds like the same problem as #4 but i have no idea why its doing that. are you using a special keyboard or different language than english?
8. yes, set up a hotkey to "keep table in grid", then the table will be locked in the grid, and when you fold on the table, it won't go back to the stack. that way you can keep your eye on it, for example a final table or something
9. unfortunately no

Just finish a 80 sngs session.Your product is very good with good thinking but it has some leaks

1)Not having an all in key which is extremely useful in sngs regulars
2)Many times i click fold with the mouse but the table never returns in the stack
3)We need more slots to tile tables If it is possible
4)Auto sit back because ongame is like **** is a must

I think your product is a diamond and it has good prospect to be one of the best.Just some friendly recomendations

thanks for the feedback. please help spread the word

1. SaT was never meant to be a hotkey program. i figured other software like TableNinja would handle these sorts of things like all-in hotkeys. but i guess some small networks dont have TN type software. unless there is an actual "all-in" button on the table for you to click, its unlikely that SaT will have this feature

2. i have a few ideas why this might happen. first, you could try increasing the Action Delay in the Advanced Options, and see if that helps. otherwise, it could be that if you are playing a million tables, SaT is just getting backlogged with too many clicks since you are clicking everywhere on all the tables, and it just cannot keep up. i did have a guy playing 35+ tournaments with the software, but i believe he was using hotkeys for all the actions, and not clicking the buttons with the mouse. maybe you could see if you can get used to using a "Fold+stack" hotkey instead of clicking Fold with your mouse

3. you can add more slots using the + button on the Layout tab

4. similar to #1, i think this is a feature that your ongame hotkey program should do. SaT is designed to work for multi-sites at the same time, so i dont want to add one site specific features. auto sit back in would be difficult to do across all sites

can anyone help me with why the tables are in grid mode and doesn't snap back after I fold?

tables just stay tiled..

Thanks!

do you notice that they go back to the stack, and then immediately snap back into the grid?

if so, its likely because something got messed up during the Include Site setup portion. first thing to try is to remove your sites and re-include them

Great software, I couldnt 24 table without it. Thanks

1. I use the "After entering pot" tile setting. Sometimes a table is in the stack and requires action but another table that requires action pops over it in the stack. I accidentally folded or raised on the wrong table because of this a few times.

2. As I said I use the "After entering pot" tile setting. If I push the check button on a table that is in the stack, the program moves it to the grid. Is it possible to move tables to the grid only if I bet or call?

I'm playing on PS, and also use PT3 and TableNinja when playing.

thank you!

its likely because the table that is at the top of the stack needing action is just coincindentally there. that is, SaT didn't move it to the top, it just happened to be the next in line and it needs action. then the next time SaT loops through the tables, it moves the first table that it finds that needs action to the top, which ends up being a different table then you currently see at the top, so when it moves that other table, it causes your issue

does this happen often? i have an idea about how i might handle this, but i dont know if it will work. ill have to do some reasearch

heh, you are the first to request this. many times previously, people complained that they would click check in their big blind and the table would not move to grid. so i added an extra lookup to see if they checked preflop, because they are in the pot and playing the hand about to see a flop, so the table moves to grid. no one had requested it the other way, so i didnt include that option. ill add it to the to-do list

Not that often. It happens about once an hour.

Thank you

Greg,

I would really like to be able to choose a separate location for new tables to appear in, as in a location not part of the grid. Could this be possible?

hrmmm, not possible with how its currently set up

lets see..

you could ignore New Tables completely by setting it to "0", but then it would be up to the poker client to decide where they appeared.

also, you could add a new extra slot and place that slot where you want New Tables to appear, but there is always the chance that your grid gets full and then you are overlapping tables there. for example, if you currently have a 6 slot grid with slot 1 as the stack, you can add a 7th slot and move it where you want, but then if your slots 2-6 are full with tables, and another table needs action, it will go to slot 7. and then if you have New Tables popping up there, slot 7 will end up overlapping a table needing action. normally when setting New Tables to a specific slot, its fine if they overlap, because they tables aren't urgent. its just a matter of taking your seat, buying in, and then sending the table to the stack. the problem comes when that grid slot is also occupied by a real table needing action