hi,

i hope the problem is not solved somewhere already, but who has the time to go through that much pages..

so basically after I managed to properly set my layout, on my super small laptop, i.e. 4 half-overlapping max / standard size tables. now when i open up 4 tables, click start 3 of them go in spots 2, 3, 4 just like they should and the 4th goes right in the middle, can be resized and moved. now if i click fold on those three, table goes indeed in the stack but what is the most important, if a table is in stack and action is needed, it will just timeout and not move from stack. so i have to search where in stack the table is, do action - now the table moves. please note, that on ongame i've got this same problem without any program (even if i have no action elsewhere, tables do timout)

please note that initially i did not run the program as admin, but i changed that. Win7.

otherwise, good job i think. although i side with those who say $180 a year is way too much. actually.

thanks

do you have Tile Setting = Action Required? that is the only setting in which tables will move out of the stack and into the grid when it is your turn to act. if you are using Tile Setting = After entering pot, then the table should pop to the top of the stack, and then move into grid after you click either call or raise

and you could set up a "stack table" hotkey to handle situations like that 4th table which does nothing since there are no grid spots available

i did indeed use "after entering pot" but the table did not even pop up to the top of stack. well that would be sufficient i guess. i think the problem is connected to my usual trouble with ongame i.e. i have to manually click on the table and search which one needs action.
i hope i didn't mess up.

hrmm, well the table should pop to the top of the stack. maybe the problem is that action is just not being detected by SaT

try this, use Tile Setting = Action required. then Start SaT and send a table to the stack. and then lets see if it moves to the grid when its your turn to act. if this works, then the tables should be popping to the top when using "after entering pot" setting

if it doesnt work, then SaT is not correctly detecting when action is on you. first thing to do is remove ongame and re-include it, paying special attention to the directions for pressing F10 when fold button is visible. and then try the above suggestion again.

with action req., after the table is send to stack, it truly will appear on top of stack (which i guess is grid, number 1?). for this i need >4 tables because otherwise tables always return to the grid. but, it happened that a table needing the action most urgently could not be served - it was below another table in the stack (which of course cannot be moved/minimized).

i reset ongame (it was set well before i think). now i open 5 tables, send 2 to stack, 3 are at positions. i play a hand at one position, raise, send table to stack. now actually it stayed on the bottom of stack, leaving me with no means how not to timeout other than stop the program and search for the table manually. also, the other table at the stack (above) was needing no action at all.

no no, of course with one table, it will appear on the top of the stack. we need to test whether sat can detect when the fold button is visible. i should probably do a video of this at some point since it is the most basic troubleshooting method

if you look at the demo vid on the website, when actoin is required, the tables are automatically popping out of the stack and into the grid (we define slot1 as the sack and slot2,3,4 as the grid).

i want you to use Tile Setting = Action Required, open one table and send it to the stack in slot1. then when it is your turn to act, i want to see if the table moves into the grid at slot2. if this works, then all is good and we can move on, if this fails, then tables popping to the TOP of the stack will fail too in the other mode (after entering pot)

no of course not. if i open 1 table, and stack it. it goes INSTANTLY back to position 2. that's why i wrote i need > 4 tables to be able to test this. i've got right mode, default advanced settings. thanks for your help sir

oh, you shouldve told me this from the start, this is a problem. what ScanMode are you using in Advanced Options?

if you are using Tile Setting = Action required, and if you send it to stack, and it INSTANTLY goes into slot2 like you say, even BEFORE the action is on you, then that is a big problem. it should not do this until it is your turn to act

first thing to try is remove OnGame from the Sites list, then re-include it and pay special attention when it asks you to press F10 for fold. then try the above again, and let me know if it stays in stack until it is your turn

DWM mode. ye instantly, before the action is on me. i did re-include it once again, and it unfortunately does the same thing. and yeah it is doing it INSTANTLY .) my grandma wouldn't maybe notice it moved

Greg will SAT work on the new Pokerstars Nova themes at any point in the future?

yeah it is almost instant. ok, the problem could be that the color of the fold button and the color of the actual table are very close or the same color. in this case, SaT will 'think' the fold button is visible when in fact it is not. could you post two screenshots, one with the fold button visible, and one with no buttons visible?

yes at some point these will be built in. for now, you can select Custom site and set it up yourself

http://2i.cz/b99d85af7c click it for full

alright that is the culprit. you see how the fold button is black? is your mouse hovering over it in that image? or is it just normally black? the reason why SaT is INSTANTLY popping the table into the grid, is because even when the fold button IS NOT visible, the chatbox is a similar black color, so SaT sees black and thinks the fold button is visible. if the fold button was red, just like the other two buttons, then there would be no problem.

so somehow we need to change the fold button color. two solutions: 1. obv you could move to a different skin which has different table graphics. 2. if you are using an ongame table mod, you could change to the mod that is recommended here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/ongame

I get the following error when I try and add Lock Poker (Merge--Normal) as the site during set-up:

Detected Window: Failure:
StakandTile.exe
doesn't match for this site.

(I don't have bring active table to the front turned on)

Thanks I'm gonna try it.

I also tried it as custom site "Other" and get the same error. OS windows 7

two things to make sure:
1. that you are running SaT as administrator
2. that you are clicking the table first and then pressing F9 when it asks

I wish I could tell you how much easier SaT makes playing on Merge! Well worth the investment. I was wondering though if it is possible under custom site creator to be able to create custom hotkeys. For example, I use the fold, call button hotkeys as normal but for the bet button I used the coordinates of the pot button on the window. Now I can just keep my mouse hovering over the bet button and fold, call with the hotkeys but when I bet the custom hotkey that I made just clicks pot and I just press the bet button (so there are actually 2 motions to bet). Seems like to could be possible use the same functions (grab coordinates, range) for a multitude of options. Thanks again!

good work, i'm glad you figured out how to set that up for yourself. the program is designed to be powerful like that to allow users to customize things to a certain extent. also, if a pokersite comes out with an update and i take too long to fix it, the user can always just use the custom site wizard and have things up and running for themselves in no time.

yeah, its shouldn't be difficult for me to add support for that. unfortunately, currently there is only support for 3 hotkeys, bet,call,fold. throw in your word on the Features Request forum on the SaT website (no registration required). a few people have already requested it, and i am gauging future features based on peoples requests

Cool! Will do thanks again!

Any idea why SaT works for cash tables but not sng tables for 888? I have tried everything.

I want to buy a Logitech G700 mouse that has 13 programmable buttons. They will work ok with StackAndTile, right?

maybe your "table_title_include_text" setting in your 888 config doesn't match the table window titles of the sng tables?

13 buttons is quite a lot. i'm not sure if they will work built in, but what will likely work is that with the logitech drivers, i'm sure you'll be able to program each button to a certain keyboard key. for example, 9th of 13 buttons you might program to the "F11" key in the logitech drivers (or any random key that you hardly ever use). then, within SaT, you would just set up a hotkey for "F11"

table_include_title_text=ID
table_exclude_title_text=Lobby
This will make SAT work for 888s tournaments (but not for cash)