Your daughter is awesome.

Give me her number.

waited 5 months for that...sick 1st post, lol.

you mean 16 months :0

Nah that was me I forgot I was banned and the urge to comment overwhelmed me.

Definitely agree. I hate characters in movies or TV that are so one dimensional that they can't exist. Good people and bad people aren't black and white - everyone falls in the gray. This show is about watching someone move in the gray little by little and end up far from where he started.

I think the last two episodes showed his transition as extreme as ever. I think he will stop needing to rationalize himself as doing bad things for a greater good and just handle every situation coldly and calculated.

1213. That WAS an awesome first post and the fact you waited so long to post...well, I'm flattered.

I wish I had found this thread when I started watching. Didn't stumble upon it until I was over half way through season 3. Definitely shed some light on a few things and had me watching with a 'different' view.

A couple of things I didn't see mentioned when I caught up on the thread...in the flashback scene with Jesse and Jane in the car in front of the museum, Jesse kisses Jane after saying she's perfect and she replies 'I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit'. Nice. Also, the scene where Walt is home after working all day at the lab without Jesse (right after bicycle boy was killed) and Jeopardy is on the TV in the background the answer to the first question is 'Solo'.

No episodes until 2011. **** me.

Just finished the 2nd season. Its building up really nicely. Hope the 3rd lives up to expectations

3rd season blows, don't get your hopes up.

The third season is the best piece of art ever to grace this planet

Definitely agree. I mean, when he started out, Walt was doing bad things because he knew he would die soon. Now he's doing horrific things at an exponentially increasing rate to preserve his own life, which probably isn't that long left no matter what he does.

I think it's safe to say there won't be a happy ending to this series. One potential bummer ending would be Walt's death. If that occurs, like in the series finale, what are the chances it comes from cancer vs. drug-related danger? In season 1 you'd say 97% cancer and 3% drugs. Now it seems maybe 10% cancer and 90% drugs. But who knows...

haha. for sure.

I think his priority is his family's safety and the money. His own life obviously has little bearing on his decisions (imo). And Jesse is just lucky atm that Walt still "needs" him.

Nah, there are concrete facts to follow up on. Hank tells them the full story, which includes:

- pictures of the RV and how it leads to Taco;
- how Taco leads to Jesse;
- how Jesse leads Hank straight to the RV and then destroys it; and
- a witness, the gas station cashier, who is actually given blue meth by Jesse and willing to talk about it.

The fact they don't at least take a picture of Jesse to the cashier, especially after blue meth is once again popping up is a huge plot hole, no way around that.

Jesse is a concrete lead on the blue meth. That wasn't just conjecture of a wild theory on Hank's part, the facts require that conclusion and Hank shared all the facts with the DEA.

It's impossible to explain the fact that there's no follow up by the investigators and no concern by super-careful Walt/Gus about Jesse casually driving from his house to their drug factory everyday.

As I said previously, the writers try to get out of this by saying the DEA will leave him alone if he doesn't sue (beginning of episode 7 Sal says "they're scared of you now, they want nothing to do with you"); but that's far, far from a satisfactory explanation as I said earlier.

Nonetheless, the actual RV episode was great.

Man, I'm so glad that I can sit down and just enjoy a show rather than having to pick it apart like that looking for plot holes.

KneeCo obviously enjoys the show, but he is bringing up fair points. BB definitely has some trouble plotting, which makes sense given what Gilligan has said in interviews, but they usually make up for these holes with excellent writing/acting/cinematography. The show is very good, but not flawless and I'd much rather have a KneeCo nitpicking then people sincerely suggesting Walt's life may have improved since he started selling meth.

The decisions he made in "Full Measure" suggest otherwise.

It's also clear that Walt considers Jesse family as much so (if not more than) his real family at this point.

I think at this point even 10% for cancer is high.

This show has really taken us places I never thought it would go. I mean, when I watched the pilot I thought we were flash-forwarding to the end of the series, that Walt's operation had finally fallen apart and he was on the run about to get caught. Instead... wow.

All the concrete evidence is gone. Even if he may have previously been involved in the blue meth, there's nothing to link him to it now, and at the time Hank assaulted Jesse, he wasn't working at the superlab and he was completely sober. Even if they followed Jesse now, they have no cause to search the laundromat, and the evidence of the present situation suggests that Jesse is a private citizen who's sober and works at an industrial laundromat.

I mean, definitely not saying there aren't some holes there, but I was basically satisfied that with all the physical evidence gone and with Jesse having an open-and-shut case to sue the pants off the DEA for one agent's personal vendetta against him, that the DEA won't follow up on him.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if things change in season 4, now that the blue meth is showing up in ABQ again.

Taco is the new Skeyelahr.

+1

As long as people post well-thought out arguments for their point of view it makes this thread very interesting and increases my enjoyment of the show. It's when people post ridiculous stuff like they thought Gus was trying to hit on Walt when he invited him to dinner or wonder if mike was responsible for killing the 2nd cousin that drives me crazy.

Haha, I actually wasn't sure if KneeCo was referring to Tuco or Combo. Hank trying to find Walt via Jesse led to Tuco (and to Jesse's car with all the cash in it), but Hank tracing the RV to Combo led to Jesse.

Right Combo, sorry.

Although eventually there has to be someone nicknamed Taco on the show.

That was just one situation. And I seriously doubt he considers Jesse more family than his own. He's done everything in preparation of his death to provide for his family. Jesse has never been part of that plan. He is/was a means to an end (he needs Jesse). Until Jesse threatened to snitch, he was on his way out. Then Walt continued their [business] relationship. Walter's all about the business.

I know I'm late to the party guys. Breaking Bad is my favorite show on TV right now. I didn't think a show could get me hooked like "The Shield" did (miss that show).

Agree with the sentiment that this won't end well for Walt. I have no idea how he could possibly get out from under the mob. Figure he will eventually get whacked or turn federal witness and go into the witness protection after Jesse gets killed. Don't think there's any hope for Jesse* surviving now even with Walt's protection. The only hope I see for him is to go to the feds first and get in witness protection himself.

Can't wait until the new season starts.

*edit- Mob boss will be super pissed after Jesse killed Gayle, assuming he really did shoot him.