Sb is doing a fine job with the role. I like the show a lot. I have not been watching for two seasons in the hope that he tears his shirt off and starts wrestling. I do however think that some of the scenes are not good. The worst has been when sb bashes hans schroeder into the table. Please rewatch that scene.

Like i said, another example of this was sb standing up to cannavale imo. Removing these scenes doesnt change the whole direction of the show. Theres no doubt in my mind that these are good scenes and likely they could have actually occured in nuckys life. But when you choose an actor who is much much much much smaller these scenes need to go. Even then i think the most recent scene could probably say but i havts pressing it imo.

Whether or not size = power irl is completely missing the point. Also the show seems to think that isnt always true imo.

Goodman or Gandolfini would be amazing, but it would change the character a lot. Nucky as written isn't supposed to be physically indimidating.

Part of what I think we're seeing is that initially Nucky wanted to be perceived as badass, but was only 'half a gangster" and didn't pull it off as well.

Now he's done dirt, walks around with a gun, and at least in his own mind believes himself to be intimidating, with mixed results. He wants to be the guy that backs down Rossetti because of who he is, and I assume part of this season is him trying to get to that spot.

I thought it was a pretty good episode and some people are just nitpicking way too much imo. Nucky needs to be bigger? WTF. Also, I can see the Chalky White scene being contived but it has to be, we don't need to see a 3 episode arc of why he wants him as a son in law and why his daughter doesn't want him. People would complain about that, and if it wasn't there people would complain about Chalky's character not being fleshed out.

isn't the whole point that he goes from a politicking type of guy, to a guy much more involved in the violence aspect of things? and he just doesn't seem like someone with a really mean streak in them

this is not interesting at all

it doesn't even have to do much with size. actors playing capone or rothstein would have been many times more credible than sb in those and other similar situations

Good start of the season, though my main grip with this show is that some characters are just dragging the story as the writers develop some minor not very interesting sub-plots around them just to keep us aware of their presence while the main story reaches a point where they will step in a bigger role. Also this Rosetti appears to be a fairly stereotyped villain, but hopefully his background will be more interesting than what we have learned from him so far. But this aside this is definitely one of the best shows on air this fall.

i guess part of the gangster fascination is knowing these guys do/did whatever the **** they wanted. but personally ive always been a lot more interested in the meyer lansky, carlo gambino types that lived forever and never did any major prison time. i think theres more to be said about a guy who can get you to stick a gun in someones face than doing it himself. its not very cinematic, but more interesting for sure.


this thread is actually very readable and its somewhat surprising. ive tried reading through other shows threads, but it's really hard to get through the complaining, non-sensical, know-it-all posting.

Bull****.

I'm not sure which part of that post you're referring to.

Buscemi pulled off the hard man fairly well in The Sopranos. I dont think he has grown since then...

Not sure if I should go with "If by 'the hard man', you mean 'the boss's cousin who spends most of his arc trying to go straight', sure," or elaborate that the Tony B stuff was some of my least favorite of the series (although that has more to do with the retconning it took to fit him in there than with anything to do with Buscemi himself).

I loved the Tony B stuff, and thought it was amazing how Steve Buscemi was able to slot into the role without me spending all my time conscious of the big time actor in a tv show.

Obviously he should have put on weight for this role though.

Bone for Tuna

ok, so just when i was starting to get a hold of this gyp character, they throw another "comment-leads-to-murder" at us.

time for gyp to catch a hot one i suppose.

Rosetti character is written terribly but this ep was great

theyre just trying to do too much, too soon with him.

3 eps in and hes instantly ****ting on nucky and getting away with it.

3 eps in , idk how many more of these convo's i can take . rest of the ep was great .

really do hope they kill the carnavale character soon , so many more interesting subplots / characters .they could focus on .

ya, i for one can not wait to see where this pre-natal care-story is heading. has me on the edge of my seat. im already scouring the internet in search of spoilers.

So wait? Jimmy's mom/bangbuddy doesn't know he's dead?

Gyp is really messing this season up for me. He better die a wicked death to make it all worth it. I enjoy a good portion of the rest, but he's making it difficult.

Rosetti is a super villain fo sho

cant wait for his death

Charlie may not, but she got choked up when Rosetti made the comment along the lines of 'what do you have if you don't have flesh and blood?'

Harrow is such a bad ass. Also I'm liking elis attitude right now. Show is awesome.

Oh, and the Nyc kid Benny is obv a young bugsy siegel.