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Old 10-03-2012, 05:23 PM   #376
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he has nothing to gain because he doesn't care. He's been doing this on his own and telling nucky is also it's own form of intimidation. He tells nucky that nucky is okay, but it's damn well known now that richard can pick off whoever the **** he wants and will tell someone that he's doing it while he's doing it.

Richard also knows nucky and knows the person he is dealing with. Yes, nucky has gone full gangster, but he's still nucky and knows how richard operates. I highly doubt richard walks into capone's place and spills the beans as Richard can't bring forth that kind of intimidation to capone.



it's really not the point of what he's doing. He doesn't care. He's been walking dead for a while. It doesn't really matter all too much to him if he dies or lives. Gillian wiping out the life of Angela was the full straw that broke the camel's back.
Came to post this. Richard doesn't give a fuuuuuuuu. He's free rolling right now.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:45 PM   #377
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I enjoyed the fat cop getting knocked over by the weak stream of gasoline and then going into convulsions before he even got lit on fire.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #378
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I enjoyed the fat cop getting knocked over by the weak stream of gasoline and then going into convulsions before he even got lit on fire.
1) he was surpised by the gas and slipped/fell down. He wasn't "knocked over" by the stream.

2) The petrol got in his face - in his eyes and mouth. Gasoline is caustic and toxic. In other words - quite harmful even before being lit on fire.

3) You're incredibly bad at watching TV.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:59 PM   #379
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His acting was horrible in that scene. He looked like he was getting shot by a fire hose and lost control of his limbs.

However, I probably wouldn't have been bothered as much if the villain and entire premise of the scene weren't so cartoonish to begin with.

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:05 PM   #380
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I've never actually seen someone in person get showered in gasoline and set on fire so I just went with it

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:30 PM   #381
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dont be silly no one could live through a fire its so goddam hot
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:32 PM   #382
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It's irons not vacuum cleaners but I think he will be one of the more interesting characters developments. He is slowly but surely creeping over to the dark side and will inevitably go to work for the flowershop guy. Disallusioned by the unfairness of the sales competition, the butt of office pranks, and the crookedness of law enforcement will cause him at some point to snap.
yeah, it is pretty obvious that he is going to turn to crime; i wish he would keep selling those irons. i find his predicament and just struggling to get by very amusing. his swedish wife is a really nice touch, very hot accent.

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he has nothing to gain because he doesn't care. He's been doing this on his own and telling nucky is also it's own form of intimidation. He tells nucky that nucky is okay, but it's damn well known now that richard can pick off whoever the **** he wants and will tell someone that he's doing it while he's doing it.

Richard also knows nucky and knows the person he is dealing with. Yes, nucky has gone full gangster, but he's still nucky and knows how richard operates. I highly doubt richard walks into capone's place and spills the beans as Richard can't bring forth that kind of intimidation to capone.



it's really not the point of what he's doing. He doesn't care. He's been walking dead for a while. It doesn't really matter all too much to him if he dies or lives. Gillian wiping out the life of Angela was the full straw that broke the camel's back.
I am not sure I catch your train of thought. If he doesn't care, if he is 'walking dead' why would he bother intimidating nuggy? why would he want to pick off anyone? he avenged the woman he loved, why is he even alive? He does seem to care about Jimmy's son, but that doesn't explain his motivation for getting entangled with Nuggy, when he could have just stayed low and be alive. what is he trying to achieve?

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He wants credit for this murder because he wants people to know it was to avenge Angela and that she has not been forgotten in death.
ok, i sorta do see that being a plausible explanation, but then why didn't he just come out with it right after the incident? why even bring doyle at gunpoint... wouldn't the most logical thing for nuggy to do is to quickly kill him asap?
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:53 PM   #383
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Man I forgot how nitty OOTtv is. I love you guys, but I think many of you might need some testosterone replace therapy.

Not referencing sherer though, because his comment was pretty hilarious.
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So what's Harrow's angle now? He killed who was responsible for Angela's murder. He seemed sincere telling Nucky that he wasn't interested in harming him and certainly couldve done it if he wanted to.
jimmy was a soldier. all in the game, yo.

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Old 10-04-2012, 05:21 AM   #384
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:44 AM   #385
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If Nucky were more intimidating Gyp wouldn't be running around like this.


Seriously though, his reasoning for doing what he is doing is just bad. Not even sure I can call it reasoning. I like the actor a lot and think that character is good, and will probably be better once they just get it out of the way that he's the villain for one reason or another, but this episode seemed a bit dumb. Capone was a huge murderer but I think he would murder mostly (mostly) for business, and not for random nonexistant insults like this.
Its not yet clear what his final goals are. Taxing Nucky's NY trade or even ultimately replacing Rothstein as the NY distributor are both reasonable goals for which the profits could outweigh the cost of his actions so far. He's hinted at these as possible motives, but every scene involving Rosetti eventually breaks down into some sort of hissy fit, so its hard to see through it.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:17 PM   #386
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Show really misses Jimmy. Was to be expected though since he ended up becoming the accidental center/heart of the show imo.
This pretty much. They built really well the Nucky - Jimmy duality that was the strength of the show. Given all the characters that feature on this show, they should have started to make the new opposing character emerge already before this season. Instead this Rosetti character is atrocious so far and given the way he behaves there is no reason to believe that Nucky wouldn't have had a lot to do with him already before (for example Nucky immediately thought that the old guy killed in the first episode had crossed with Rosetti...) and worthy of being narrated in the previous two seasons.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:18 PM   #387
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ok, i sorta do see that being a plausible explanation, but then why didn't he just come out with it right after the incident? why even bring doyle at gunpoint... wouldn't the most logical thing for nuggy to do is to quickly kill him asap?
Harrow has shown himself to be an extremely loyal, talented assassin. If he's not a threat to Nucky he has much more value alive rather than dead. I'm guessing Harrow will end up being Nucky's out of state enforcer/killer and the Irishman will remain in AC. Sleater will then start sexing Margaret again until finally at the end of the season Harrow makes him disappear. Perhaps some foreshadowing here
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:00 PM   #388
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:58 PM   #389
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #390
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From a baseball site, but relevant:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...own-times-two/

A Mafia Hall of Fame....who knew? Have we seen Lucchese yet?

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After his accident, Lucchese ran with Lucky Luciano in the 107th Street Gang, which was later absorbed into the operations of Gaetano Reina in the Bronx and East Harlem, and run by Gaetano Gagliano after Reina’s murder in 1930.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:06 AM   #391
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Its not yet clear what his final goals are. Taxing Nucky's NY trade or even ultimately replacing Rothstein as the NY distributor are both reasonable goals for which the profits could outweigh the cost of his actions so far. He's hinted at these as possible motives, but every scene involving Rosetti eventually breaks down into some sort of hissy fit, so its hard to see through it.
Going up against the 2 major liquor operations in the area seems like a bad business decision.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:48 AM   #392
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just feel like mentioning this... i think van alden used to be the worst character by far on the show, however, his new subplot selling vacuum cleaners, while living with his new sweedish wife is amazing. i hope they dont change a thing and keep it like that; just having him be a vacuum cleaner salesman would be awesome
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yeah, it is pretty obvious that he is going to turn to crime; i wish he would keep selling those irons. i find his predicament and just struggling to get by very amusing. his swedish wife is a really nice touch, very hot accent.
What is this - Hell on Wheels?

Why do we have to call the Norwegian character a Swede?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:51 AM   #393
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she is not a swede? sorry
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:03 AM   #394
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I am not sure I catch your train of thought. If he doesn't care, if he is 'walking dead' why would he bother intimidating nuggy? why would he want to pick off anyone? he avenged the woman he loved, why is he even alive? He does seem to care about Jimmy's son, but that doesn't explain his motivation for getting entangled with Nuggy, when he could have just stayed low and be alive. what is he trying to achieve?

ok, i sorta do see that being a plausible explanation, but then why didn't he just come out with it right after the incident? why even bring doyle at gunpoint... wouldn't the most logical thing for nuggy to do is to quickly kill him asap?
I would say he didn't come straight out to claim credit since he probably didn't think about it. The show has portrayed him as a simpleton and not really able to see the big picture. Thus, he probably killed Manny and thought he had done his job in getting revenge. However, when he heard that someone else was taking credit, he realized that people would think it was just a business hit and decided he needed to set them straight.

As for why he brought Doyle at gunpoint to Nucky, I think you're wrong that the most logical thing is for Nucky to kill him. Nucky isn't really a killer (although he had become more of one) and I don't think he is even typically armed. Plus, Nucky is a far inferior gun man to Richard - it would be a pretty bad move for him to take him on one-on-one in a small room, especially if Richard already has his gun drawn.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:50 AM   #395
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What is this - Hell on Wheels?

Why do we have to call the Norwegian character a Swede?
Technically, at the time her character would have been born, Norway and Sweden were united under the United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway in a personal union, which lasted from 1814-1905.

Plus it's easier to spell Swede than Norwegian.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:57 AM   #396
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:30 AM   #397
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I may have already posted this itt, but am I the only who doesn't mind Jimmy's absence at all. I didn't find him or Pitt's performance all that compelling in either season unless you like watching constant brooding and him yelling "Angie" or seeing an arc that is basically a really ****ty version of the Christopher Moltisanti arc.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:40 AM   #398
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I may have already posted this itt, but am I the only who doesn't mind Jimmy's absence at all. I didn't find him or Pitt's performance all that compelling in either season unless you like watching constant brooding and him yelling "Angie" or seeing an arc that is basically a really ****ty version of the Christopher Moltisanti arc.
Bolded = agreed
Underlined = but not for those reasons

There's enough going on in this show that I don't really thinking about it. To me, BE is the best 2nd tier show that looks like a top 1st tier show. I totally enjoy it, will watch till it's over, but I have no real attachment to it at all. I'll anticipate an episode from time to time, but overall, it's just another show I watch on Sundays.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:47 AM   #399
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I can see what you're saying Pudge, I thought Pitt was great, but I could understand having issues with the material he was given.

What's missing (or maybe not missing, but just different) is not so much the character, but a big major B plot to hold up against whatever Nucky is doing. I guess maybe that's Margaret, but so far it kinds feels like it's just Nucky vs Gyp (and vs girl problems) and then a lot of other swirling minor subplots.

Also, Jimmy was also somebody you could root (or at least feel sympathy) for, whereas this season it seems like they're trying to develop Nucky as a more sympathetic protagonist. When I've struggled to get into the show it's been because there's a real lack of sympathetic characters, and while I've loved this season so far, I can see that risk again.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:59 AM   #400
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How can you not miss Pitt in the show when the guy they replaced him with is just exactly what he's been called itt thread, a cartoonish character. I find Gyp amusing but god damn did they go off the rails with this character having any kind of realism. Its like they brought in a character from a B level gangster movie and put it in Goodfellas or The Godfather.


Even as stupid as the killings were by Gyp as well as his overreactions to every little thing it is entertaining tho.
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