I agree with most except i think Steve would stand up for any women in the house if he thought they were being harassed. The lines are a little blurred with what Jeff is doing with her and i admire Steve for having the courage to step in. If Liz wants the advances she should tell steve she's good with it.

Vanessa remains HOH

steve probably would, but he's had a crush on liz since last week. he told john about it outside, but john told him that liz and jeff were flirting to steve's disappointment. steve seems like an innocent, good guy. austin, jeff and steve all really like liz. it may be playing a part in why there's some dislike or distrust amongst them.

Sigh. Vanessa and Austin think James threw it for some reason because he was so bad at it and now they want to get him out to work with Jeff.

Lots of time still.

Back to Clay twin thing lol

Yeah they're not totally on point, but I'm really liking the game talk between Vanessa and Austin over the past few days. They seem to energize each other, too.

Austin maybe should go to bed before he says something he regrets. I'm guessing almost that entire Jeff and Austin conversation was a lie.

i don't understand vanessa's logic for why james is a high priority target. jeff seems like such a clear play at this point. james is one of the weaker players.

also, for a guy who isn't in the actual alliance, john knows way too much about everything going down the past 2 weeks. he's such a dangerous unknown quantity.

They feel Jeff more willing to do whatever saves himself where James set in his ways. Wouldn't shock me if James better comp player either since being big doesn't matter a ton. I'd still target Jeff tho b/c deeper / better connections. I find it funny when Vanessa and Austin were counting votes they included Audrey which is the last person you can count.

Yeah did anyone catch when Shelli asked Audrey out of the blue whether she cast the vote to save Jace? Her reaction was not great, and Shelli looked skeptical but moved on. Audrey cannot keep doing that though, unless she really does have some kind of "hinky vote" incentive we don't know about.

Austin getting just as bad as Jeff. He just thinks no one ever lies to him and everyone is on his side so he tells everyone everything.

I like Austin when he's not talking to Jeff.

Somebody please evict Johnny and Steve OMG! I can't stand them.

no

So sick of them.

Shelly has already told Audrey about the plan to get out James or Jeff ... F this bitch

Its so funny that people tell her anything

Love her, she's the best.

Hell no!!! I love Johnny Mac.

I don't know if you're talking about Shelli or Audrey, but I honestly don't know how anyone could not love Audrey.

X-post - obv Johnny Mac is also the best

Austin, you aren't going to be a wrestler.

One of Vanessa and Austin's flaws will be not telling Becky and Johnny Mac their real target. Austin knows Becky knows she isn't with the "inside" because they kicked her out of their meeting and didn't give them info and now they're doing the same. I'm sure Vanessa will spin it somehow to come off good but it's risky either way.

Clay is an idiot. Trying to tell Vanessa to get Jackie to vote Jeff out.

Why do they all think they can be the ones to evict someone and then their closest ally will go to them? I don't get how someone could possibly think that way but all of them do.

I was thinking about that with Johnny Mac. But like you said i think Vanessa will explain to him and her that it was such a big move and Jeff has friends on both sides that she couldn't chance it leaking in case they didn't get Jeff on the block. Jeff would conspire to try and go after Vanessa next week.

Why the hell is Austin telling Jeff they suspect Clay might be a twin. Jeff would use that to his advantage. Then he says to Jeff should we podcast Liz(Helga). Then i think he said maybe a private podcast. Get in the game Austin. Your not in college dorm with your bro jeff. I know he's playing Jeff some but he's leaking info because he gets lost in the partying/trying to get laid.