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Old 07-10-2015, 01:37 AM   #751
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

lol at going to HOH as a group to threaten them.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:51 AM   #752
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Liz told Vanessa she has a twin.
Wtf are Clay and Shelli leaving Liz alone with Jeff. He's in the bed saying things like "that was so cute when you cuddled with James earlier." and "did you know so and so has brown eyes". She's definitely gonna slip. She should be with Vanessa and then sleep with Vanessa in hoh room to keep these people away from her.

He may be the one smart enough to try and blackmail her and might force them to work with him at least through week 5.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:27 AM   #753
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

The 52 was clutch ... Feeds are great and this should be a great week
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:58 AM   #754
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It's probably true they could work with Jason if they chose that route.
I think Vanessa did an excellent job with her talk with Jason. Jason now knows he's not only not a big target but someone they may be able to work together down the road on some level. And got to know him on a friendship level. This may work wonders for her social game with the other side of the house as he's always talking and now will talk about her in a positive light.

Steve is awesome. I love his intensity lol. I think it's sweet Vanessa is gonna stick up for him/have his back and keep her dog(Austin) off him. She wants to be loyal to her agreement with Steve but she knows her team is not on board with him. I suspect she will keep the dogs off him and slowly Steve will build trust with them and even more with her.

Vanessa is really playing a great game now. Really starting to look like a favorite for the end. Strategy and especially social game improving drastically. Austin has taken a step back as far as respect of gameplay. Starting to look like a big ox thinking with the wrong head. He's luckily he has Vanessa paying attention and playing this game for him.
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:34 AM   #755
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Wtf are Shellclay throwing Steve under the bus. Saying he's pretending to be a nerd and other times he's normal. Dummies, it's because sometimes he gets relaxed and sometimes he's nervous/awkward.

I love watching Jeff squirm and scramble after he hears Vanessa not wanting to go after Audrey. He knows he's in danger. He needed the imodium last night.

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Old 07-10-2015, 06:48 AM   #756
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I think if they go through with this plan of putting up James/Johnny Mac and Meg/Jason, with johnny mac throwing to take out James it is pretty bad for Vanessa's game. I think she's playing too fast and not even getting out the biggest target on the other side.
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:50 AM   #757
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How is Liz the one out of her Vanessa and Austin to figure out Johnny Mac has an alliance and is a "mole."
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:25 AM   #758
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Vanessa thinks Clay is a twin. This is absurd.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:16 PM   #759
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Vanessa's plan might not work out if Clay Shelli and Johnny don't vote out Jeff.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:12 PM   #760
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Haven't read up on everything today but seems kinda silly for Clay Shelli to go against the people they are working with at this time.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:16 PM   #761
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Vanessa's plan might not work out if Clay Shelli and Johnny don't vote out Jeff.
But why would Clay and shelli not vote the way Vanessa wants them to? They would be really dumb to think it's better to trust Jeff over Vanessa at this point. And they know if they don't take Jeff out Vanessa will be the main target of the other side of the house and destroy their alliance with LizVanAustin and potentially Julia. That being said, Jeff is such a good manipulator and Shelli and Clay being dumb you can never be 100 percent sure they won't turn. The percentage they turn is so low(maybe 1 percent chance) though it's worth the shot to get Jeff out as you know he's been coming for you and Austin even before she won hoh.

Now we're seeing the real Jeff come out now that he's not getting his way. Jeff talking about Vanessa to meg "If Vanessa doesn't want to go after Audrey we need to tell her to step down as hoh and give to Austin because she can't handle the position. She can't handle making big girl moves." Don't worry Jeff I think she has a "big girl" move planned.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:17 PM   #762
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

They were discussing it between themselves and wanted to try to get Jason out because they think he'll go after them. But then they talked to Vanessa Liz and Austin and found out Jeff is targeting Clay and Shelli and are now on board taking out Jeff. One of the keys here is Johnny Mac. If he finds out anything he will tell Jeff. Shelli should tell Vanessa this but she's hiding their alliance with him from her.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:22 PM   #763
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

The goal is to eliminate a number on other side I'm not sure I love the ideal of Austin: Jason & Meg Vanessa: James & John. If plan works and Jason and Meg win BOTB what happens if Jeff wins POV and uses on James? Sure Jackie a number on that side but if your going to target them you'd hope for a bigger player.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:23 PM   #764
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I don't like it either but that is the worst case scenario especially with Johnny throwing BOB. I think Vanessa's best move would've been getting Audrey out. She had Austin as a bigger target than her but now with their plan of Austin being mad at her for taking out Jeff, Vanessa could be seen as the bigger threat.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:24 PM   #765
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

But I'm not positive on if she should've targeted Audrey or Jeff. Leaning that way but I'm not convinced what would've been better.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:30 PM   #766
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So Jeff made it on TMZ

Hopefully he leaves soon
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:36 PM   #767
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I really don't think he was doing what he's accused of. Really hope he wasn't. If he did that he should obviously be expelled.
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:14 PM   #768
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I really doubt he would do that. I'm sure he was joking at worst.
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:52 PM   #769
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

bb would've kicked him off the show. jeff is constantly using sexual humor around the girls, trying to look for an opening. it was just another instance of that.

really love the nominations.

Austin: Jason & Meg
Vanessa: James & John
backdoor: jeff

john could be a dangerous wild card in the coming weeks. he's one the smart players who can actually win this game, and no one knows exactly where he stands. it's not the worst thing for vanessa if he somehow goes this week, even though it's unlikely.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:12 PM   #770
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Yeah I'm way behind on the feeds, but from what I have watched it seems like they are really sleeping on John. Austin and Vanessa don't think he's playing the game and are wondering why he's out there, because he obv makes good money. But on the hammock with Audrey a few nights ago (which is one of my favorite conversations from a personality standpoint, hardly any game talk, and Audrey clearly *does* have good social skills) he said he pays $3K a month for ten years in student loans and I think he might still live with his folks to save on rent.

Plus he's really playing down his fandom in a believable way, unlike Jason and Steve who can't stop bragging about their BB knowledge. He does need to start gearing up just a tad imo to avoid the 'meh wtf' type eviction you mention.

And I agree that was probably a joke by Jeff, albeit a stupid, offensive, and unfunny one.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:53 PM   #771
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

John also looks like he has a healthy coke habit so that's a good use of 500k
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:01 PM   #772
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I agree John could be threat down the road but I kinda got the sense John won't of put up Vanessa if he had the chance this early but who really knows.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:03 PM   #773
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I really don't think he was doing what he's accused of. Really hope he wasn't. If he did that he should obviously be expelled.
May be a case of him saying i was pretending. How can you prove it? So they let it go.

In another instance Steve said to him "you're harassing her" when jeff kept grabbing her sitting outside the hoh room. Steve was serious and said unless she says she wants to be touched you shouldn't touch her. Nice job Steve! Jeff mocked him. Steve stood there waiting for Jeff to leave and he wouldn't then Liz said i want some alone time with Jeff. So maybe she's into it? Or maybe she was just getting uncomfortable with the scene happening. She did say thanks Steve as he left.

I heard Liz say to Austin "i don't want to sleep down there because he keeps putting his hand up the back of my shirt and i'm worried he's gonna feel for the birth mark. I don't know if just doesn't want to get caught or because she didn't want to be touched.

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Old 07-10-2015, 08:35 PM   #774
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John also looks like he has a healthy coke habit so that's a good use of 500k
He does appear that way on the show, especially with the Bobcat Goldthwait voice in the DR. But the feeds have a ton of shots of him just sitting contemplatively.

I think he's the favorite to ship it atm.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #775
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liz strikes me as a girl who has had plenty of experience handling men. she was the only girl very comfortable with sexual humor from week 1. the reason steve was protecting liz, is because steve has a huge crush on liz. in fact almost every guy in the house does.

austin lost his gf over liz. james likes liz, but he likes meg more. steve has a crush on liz, because she actually talks to him and i don't think he's ever had a girl flirt with him, so he's turned white knight. jeff is mega horny and liz is his #1 target, and also part of the reason he wants austin out. jason is gay. john hasn't made any sexual advances. jace and liz had some mutual interest, but he's gone.
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