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Old 07-09-2015, 05:12 AM   #701
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Production clearly helping them. Julia said we were supposed to switch yesterday but then stopped saying why they didn't. Vanessa is telling them that the house is looking for birthmark on back and other stuff.
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:18 AM   #702
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This is great. Vanessa: straight up you need to eat more you're skinnier. And Liz has to stop eating.
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:59 AM   #703
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Production also helping by saying houseguests please put on your microphone so no one knows julia and vanessa are talking.
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Old 07-09-2015, 06:44 AM   #704
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This is great. Vanessa: straight up you need to eat more you're skinnier. And Liz has to stop eating.
Agreed! This some cool viewing watching Vanessa scheme w/julia in the dark(nightvision) and they got the sheet up like there in a tent. I feel like i'm watching a reality covert spy operation lol. Is this BB or that show on fx "the americans". Makes you feel relieved for Julia too as you can tell a huge weight has been lifted off her chest and them cracking up about it. Vanessa looks like a bad ass mastermind in the nightvision plotting how they gonna take this game down or get out of enemy territory to safety.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:01 PM   #705
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Well not Liz just told her
I don't understand your second statement. She did tell her?? If so that's stupid.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:20 PM   #706
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I don't understand your second statement. She did tell her?? If so that's stupid.

I'm assuming they meant that Julia, not Liz, told Vanessa.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:39 PM   #707
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So now Julia told Shelli and Clay.

Vanessa told Austin about the twin and to not trust Jeff.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:04 PM   #708
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I don't understand your second statement. She did tell her?? If so that's stupid.
Yeah I meant Julia told her.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:21 PM   #709
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So now Julia told Shelli and Clay.

Vanessa told Austin about the twin and to not trust Jeff.
So Vanessa tells Shelli and Clay about the twin and says it's Shelli, Clay, Vanessa, Austin, Liz, and hopefully Julia as a 6 man unit. Vanessa tells them Audrey's done she's sabotaging us. She's gotta go. So what does Shelli and Clay do after she leaves....

Clay: "i just don't know where we stand with Audrey." "before we tell Jeff..i just know Jeff wouldn't screw me over. He's not that crappy a man." "we still need Johnny Mac with us."

Shelli: "i trust jeff."

If this doesn't work it will be because the 2 clowns mess it up. At least Shelli got one thing right... "Jeff sold you good. He's playing a salesman's game." But then a couple minutes later they both utter the words "i trust Jeff." WTF?

Shelli is so annoying. I can't think of the word to describe her personality atm but she cuts people off in a very "i'm the debutant of this ball/queen of this land" way. Many times when she says something so stupid Vanessa can't comprehend why she said it and is thinking but being polite about it. Then Shelli will be like "nevermind. you look confused. it's over your head" in a nasty way. So maybe like a need to act or feel superior in a rude abrasive way even though you know you messed up. But don't want it to look that way causing you to look stupid. So you flip it to make the other person to look dumb? What's the word i'm looking for? Maybe she "deflects" is the word im looking for.

I think it's ok to help/work with John and maybe Steve. But jeff should be only used for his info and to tell him a fake story.

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Old 07-09-2015, 02:54 PM   #710
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Vanessa thinks Audrey is a psychic lol
She does seem to know a ton about everyone's angle. The funny thing (haven't watched feeds today so not sure if this changed) she's the *only* hg to not know about the twins.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:27 PM   #711
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa is in a really good position right now. Seems like the big targets like day Audrey Jeff Austin clay and the twins will take up most of the next few weeks of evictions before her name gets brought up.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:38 PM   #712
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f julie, becky, jackie
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k audrey day shelli vanessa

random thought - neda is the best female BB player of all time right? is anyone else close?
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:56 PM   #713
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random thought - neda is the best female BB player of all time right? is anyone else close?
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:57 PM   #714
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Vanessa is in a really good position right now. Seems like the big targets like day Audrey Jeff Austin clay and the twins will take up most of the next few weeks of evictions before her name gets brought up.
Agreed. Also Vanessa's side looking like it will have a stronghold on this game in the upcoming weeks as they have more knowledge and a more trusting unified 5 people alliance. Especially so if they can save Liz through week 5 which then would bring in Julia to add to the team and make 6. Also they can make the other side think they're working with them as they don't think VanAustin is as tight with shellclay as they are. So would be hard for other side to have enough votes to take people out on Vanessa's side of the house. I see the other side being Jeff, Meg, James, Jackie. And floaters being Becky, John, Steve, and Audrey. John and Steve already lean Shelli and Clay. While Becky more likely to play it safe and try to make jury with Shellclay side but not for sure. And Audrey will never choose a side and lie to both sides creating more chaos lol.

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Old 07-09-2015, 06:29 PM   #715
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa just has to be careful of a few things. She is already seen as smart and at the top of the alliance by the other side. They think it is just Vanessa Austin and Liz but they see her as the leader trying to build the alliance so she could be targeted first. Unlikely because Austin is a bigger threat as are the twins, but they could figure her out and go after her. Also, the way she told Clay and Shelli about Liz was way too open for no reason. She walked past the whole house at 4 am or whatever and was in the HOH room for over an hour. She is trying to keep it a secret that she's working with Shelli and Clay but basically Jeff already knows as does most of the house so she shouldn't bring any more attention to it especially since she could've talked to them in the morning.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:00 PM   #716
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I think they're going to have a tough time bucking the tide to evict Liz before Julia comes in (Jason was speculating yesterday that it probably happens after the fourth boot).

Like do they know the whole house knows. It would appear not if Van is giving her advice on how to stay hidden. It might be better just to cut her loose, but they definitely need to be aware she's going to be a popular target.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:11 PM   #717
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They all know everyone knows. Vanessa is saying they can't prove it that's why we have to hide it but it's basically proven and will be proven further when they switch no matter how they try to hide it. Vanessa's side just needs to win 2 of the 3 HOHs or so and Audrey will also go. Even if someone like Becky or Steve gets HOH they could be convinced that by keeping Liz they would gain 2 people plus Vanessa/Austin. No matter what happens, if Vanessa's side doesn't win some HOHs it will be very hard for them to make it to the 6th week. Maybe they can promise to have a threesome with Jeff and then James in jury or something.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:34 PM   #718
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I think they're going to have a tough time bucking the tide to evict Liz before Julia comes in (Jason was speculating yesterday that it probably happens after the fourth boot).

Like do they know the whole house knows. It would appear not if Van is giving her advice on how to stay hidden. It might be better just to cut her loose, but they definitely need to be aware she's going to be a popular target.
Shelli and clay plan on volunteering to watch who comes out of the diary room for the house. Meaning the house doesn't know Shelli and clay working with liz and julia so will believe them if they say "no. it's the same person coming in and out or DR." But even if it becomes public knowledge it doesn't mean she can't make it to through week 5. As noone would know Liz and Julia would be gunning for people on the other side of the house. All they really know is Liz is tight with Austin. But they don't know it's really liz/austin/vanessa/Shelli/Clay. So someone like Jeff who has talked with Liz might think it an opportunity for him to get tighter with Liz and form his own secret alliance with the twins and Austin(better yet Liz and Austin go to Jeff to make fake alliance). As Jeff doesn't know Austin is onto his bs yet. So Liz and Austin can bs Jeff into wanting to keep the twins. Then Jeff tells his people it's ok maybe we can work with them. And you know jeff would think it be nice to have 2 liz's in jury to try and bang.

Also some of those weeks the 5 people alliance on Liz's side will win hoh protecting her. So really she's got an ok shot at surviving through week 5. Really the toughest one who would be most likely to expose her would be jason. If he doesn't relent and is about to call a house meeting to expose it Liz could make a deal with him. Liz say "i'm not alone and am well protected. If you don't expose me/keep it to yourself i and my people will not look to come after you until at least jury. You would be at the very bottom of the target list. You can possibly join our alliance as that side of the house is gonna sink" Something like that. Then he could spin it to his side of the house that maybe she isn't a twin and his people have bigger fish to fry anyway who cares.

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Old 07-09-2015, 07:40 PM   #719
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I just want Audrey to find out so she can go around the house spreading it and put her twist on things thinking none of them know.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:30 PM   #720
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Thanks YY I didn't watch any feeds today.

Guesses on whether tonight's broadcast shows them finding out? Seems like it would take away from the takeover thing.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:41 PM   #721
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It would be hard to not show it since Day is basically the one who figured it out. I think they will show Day telling everyone and then using it to try to get Liz and Austin's votes so people think she has a chance to stay. RHAP thinks they might show it on Sunday and make it look like Jason figured it out which is also plausible. There is also a chance Day brings it up in her speech. I don't know why she would but she's done some odd things.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:43 PM   #722
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Austin/Jeff HOH with Jeff putting up Audrey and her winning BOB is my dream scenario for drama but I don't think Jeff would put her up.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:14 PM   #723
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GRONK! First twist I might like ever.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:15 PM   #724
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Let Gronk in the house for a week one time
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:20 PM   #725
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It would be hard to not show it since Day is basically the one who figured it out. I think they will show Day telling everyone and then using it to try to get Liz and Austin's votes so people think she has a chance to stay. RHAP thinks they might show it on Sunday and make it look like Jason figured it out which is also plausible. There is also a chance Day brings it up in her speech. I don't know why she would but she's done some odd things.
Show what? The tv audience already knows there is a twin. Did you guys mean actually outing the twin to the houseguests? I don't see that happening yet.

When will they show Audrey's secret. If she's not anything except a regular player then they should out her as a psychic and send her off immediately to use her powers of knowing all for something more important in this world.

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