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Old 09-23-2015, 10:18 PM   #6301
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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interesting you chose not to quote the strategy part of my post.

THe vanessa haters want to argue its a bitter jury and she is the most hated player of alltime but Steve should evict her in final three.

Those two things are literally as opposite as you can get in BB.
Interesting that you didn't mention you must have edited your post because all I did was hit the quote button. I didnt take anything out. Geez you are more paranoid than Vanessa
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:20 PM   #6302
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Lol at her pretending it may not have been good for Steve's game.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:20 PM   #6303
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Well I'm rooting for Liz now. Steve didn't show any skill, judgement, or manipulation in this game. Though he did evict Vanessa and his judgement in that spot was correct.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:20 PM   #6304
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Pretty sick that Steve pulled off his plan of winning F6, F4 and F3 HoH.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6305
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I think she really thinks the jury could be bitter. Not saying she is right but she thinks it's possible.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6306
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Btw, of course Vanessa would have won in a F2. Steve absolutely made the right call evicting her.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6307
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I find it truly fascinating how thin the margins are between a Cody/Woo and a Pardy/Steve. In a game spanning so many days and containing so many decision trees, one final decision can be the difference between being a total clown that has no idea whats going on ever and a good, solid utr player that can make the necessary decisions at the right time. Hope Steve takes it down. Would be deserved.

Also, gg Vanessa. Was worth a ton of entertainment this year and was - imo - the best player of the season.

Edit: a bit unfair to Pardy probably, but he's the easy comparison to "cutting the person he needed to at the end"
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6308
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Has anyone checked on DarkCheck?
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6309
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Well I'm rooting for Liz now. Steve didn't show any skill, judgement, or manipulation in this game.
This is just flat out wrong.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:21 PM   #6310
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:22 PM   #6311
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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I turned on Vanessa in about week 7 because I prefer strategic manipulation to emotional manipulation and I felt like Vanessa relied on the latter a little too much.
+1, pretty much sums up my feelings as well, and why I eventually turned on her
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:22 PM   #6312
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa was robbed, this game's alot like poker in the sense that the best player doesn't always win. Allstars next season one time?
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:23 PM   #6313
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Btw, of course Vanessa would have won in a F2. Steve absolutely made the right call evicting her.
so she got to the end, won the most comps, was part of every eviction and would have obviously won in F2 but she is not a good player????????
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:25 PM   #6314
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This is just flat out wrong.
nope its not. Steve is awful at the game in nearly every way and will go down as one of the worst winnners in all seasons.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:25 PM   #6315
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Vanessa was robbed, this game's alot like poker in the sense that the best player doesn't always win. Allstars next season one time?
So variance = robbery?

Vanessa ran ****ing hot and anyone who doesn't agree with that has a short memory. She had some mad skills but she had some good luck as well.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:26 PM   #6316
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

LOL CBS
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:27 PM   #6317
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lolololol
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:27 PM   #6318
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so she got to the end, won the most comps, was part of every eviction and would have obviously won in F2 but she is not a good player????????
I have said multiple times Vanessa is a very good, just not great player. I take strong offense to people who compare her to Derrick, but having her in the top 2 females of all time, and in the top 7-10 overall is very reasonable to me

Last edited by VTChess; 09-23-2015 at 10:28 PM. Reason: just to be clear, I am well aware Vanessa is by far the best player this season. I just really disliked her style of play
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:27 PM   #6319
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So variance = robbery?

Vanessa ran ****ing hot and anyone who doesn't agree with that has a short memory. She had some mad skills but she had some good luck as well.
she ran hot for sure but was also the best player by a mile. As they say, I'd rather be LUCKY and GOOD.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:27 PM   #6320
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I can't believe Vanessa lost-my life is over
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:28 PM   #6321
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

My god Liz is dumb
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:28 PM   #6322
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I have said multiple times Vanessa is a very good, just not great player. I take strong offense to people who compare her to Derrick, but having her in the top 2 females of all time, and in the top 7-10 overall is very reasonable to me
fair enough. I agree 100% she is nowhere near Derrick and anyone making that comparison is nuts.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:30 PM   #6323
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liz is the woo of BB
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:30 PM   #6324
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Vanessa doesn't even get a question now lol
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:31 PM   #6325
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

If Steve doesn't win this, even with the huge move of booting Vanessa, then LOL JURY
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