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01-24-2011 , 02:27 PM
Heading to Dallas and I've been saving my ONE TIME for this
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01-24-2011 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
Sometimes I honestly wonder. A lot of them are pessimists that love to say "I'm just being realistic." They think that GB has only a slim chance to make the playoffs and it is better to give Rodgers a full off-season to come back from his concussion and play for next year.

This is how one of the conversations went:

H:"We are not a playoff team with the current roster of missing starters...IR injuries not an excuse just fact."

M: "Anything can happen in the playoffs. If GB loses against the Giants, sit him. You don't sit him with the season still meaning something, though."

H:"You don't sacrifice the future by playing the franchise with this type of injury. 'If's' do not make it a good decision. Again, we cannot compete with the elite in the playoffs if we get there. With that Rodgers will probably play as he is a competitor."

M: "Neither could the Cardinals, right? Or the Steelers team that won the SB as a 6 seed, right? The Giants had no chance to beat the 18-0 Patriots, either, for that matter.

ANY.GIVEN.SUNDAY.

This is football. You can't hold your cards just because you're afraid of a guy getting injured."

H:"Even if he is the franchise QB? Let's be realistic....our team in it's current state is not a playoff caliber team."

M: "I fail to understand how almost beating the best team in the league, on the road, with a back up QB, is not a playoff caliber team."

H: "Just being realistic."

M: ...
Did this guy ever post again?
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01-24-2011 , 07:14 PM
Anyone know why they celebrated in the locker room instead of on the field? Part of the fun of winning the NFC Championship is getting to party on the other team's turf. I've never seen it done any other way. I was thinking it maybe had to do with them being rivals and not wanting to disrespect a long rivalry, but that seems like kind of a stupid reason.

I was 14 last time they made it and I think I'm just excited today as I was then. And I think I figured out a way to stop Big Ben. At some point in the middle of the 2nd quarter they need to release a JV girls volleyball team onto the field and let the rest take care of itself.
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01-24-2011 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by knivesout
Anyone know why they celebrated in the locker room instead of on the field? Part of the fun of winning the NFC Championship is getting to party on the other team's turf. I've never seen it done any other way. I was thinking it maybe had to do with them being rivals and not wanting to disrespect a long rivalry, but that seems like kind of a stupid reason.

I was 14 last time they made it and I think I'm just excited today as I was then. And I think I figured out a way to stop Big Ben. At some point in the middle of the 2nd quarter they need to release a JV girls volleyball team onto the field and let the rest take care of itself.
rofl solid strat

And yeah I wish they had celebrated on the field. Parading that trophy around would've been epic. Then again, the fans may have started throwing **** at them.
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01-25-2011 , 11:27 AM
honestly I think they felt more relief than a need to celebrate! second half, up 14, todd collins coming in, did anyone think the Packers would even be close to losing??
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01-25-2011 , 06:27 PM
I hope we can pick up someone to be Desmond Howard v2.0 in this year's draft. Starks/Jordy/etc are kinda lame on kickoff returns, Tramon is subpar at punt returns + injury risk is completely unacceptable now.

Seems like there's always tons of guys in the mid rounds that have good hands and are fast but can't run routes/cover guys/etc.
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01-25-2011 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
I hope we can pick up someone to be Desmond Howard v2.0 in this year's draft. Starks/Jordy/etc are kinda lame on kickoff returns, Tramon is subpar at punt returns + injury risk is completely unacceptable now.

Seems like there's always tons of guys in the mid rounds that have good hands and are fast but can't run routes/cover guys/etc.
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01-25-2011 , 07:17 PM
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WTF, GB is now -2.5. Pouncey confirmed out or something? Backup center kinda looked like AIDS today, that might do it?
packs are favs because its in a dome.
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01-25-2011 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
I hope we can pick up someone to be Desmond Howard v2.0 in this year's draft. Starks/Jordy/etc are kinda lame on kickoff returns, Tramon is subpar at punt returns + injury risk is completely unacceptable now.

Seems like there's always tons of guys in the mid rounds that have good hands and are fast but can't run routes/cover guys/etc.
If they don't find someone in the draft, Shields could definitely take the job with a good off-season. He definitely showed flashes during the regular season, but he was horribly inconsistent. Plus, I'm not sure if I would want Shields even returning just because of the injury-risk.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pat Lee back there in the Super Bowl. He's probably not going to be involved much (or at all) in the defensive scheme, so he would have plenty of time to make some progress returning kicks.
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01-25-2011 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
honestly I think they felt more relief than a need to celebrate! second half, up 14, todd collins coming in, did anyone think the Packers would even be close to losing??
Standard McCarthyism. Too conservative.
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01-26-2011 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
Standard McCarthyism. Too conservative.
cuz arods int didnt take at least 3pts off the board which woudl have made it a 3score game and have channged everything

i will grant you however everyone of us knew run-run-pass w/ 4 minleft
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01-26-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lifes3ps
cuz arods int didnt take at least 3pts off the board which woudl have made it a 3score game and have channged everything

i will grant you however everyone of us knew run-run-pass w/ 4 minleft
Yes, but ints happen and it isn't like the standard McCarthyism is something new. Micheal Lombardi on the Jim Rome show even stated, paraphrased, "Why did the Packers lose 6 games and almost miss the playoffs? Conservative in late games. They should have not lost 6 games and in the playoffs, they should have not been in the 2 close games they have been." Funny that he says that, but no one calls out McCarthy for this stuff. I have been hearing how great of a coach he is, but I guess is negatives are standard for the industry all things considered just from this seasons playoffs. ie. timeout by IND, Martz play calling on that last drive. I am sure there is more that I can't think of right now off the top of my head.
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01-26-2011 , 07:18 PM
I think that is kind of the truth though I'm not entirely sure how much he should change it up. Are you saying we should go pass/pass/pass with a lead and 4-5 mins remaining? I think he probably should, but lately it seems like his players do not seem capable of running for > 2 yds or catching a ball when the clock is down that far.
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01-26-2011 , 07:28 PM
McCarthy should mix things up. 40% pass/ 60% run on the first two downs would probably be appropriate. Going 100% run in any situation where there's like 5 minutes left is pretty bad imo. There's just not enough value in running down the clock or forcing the other team to burn timeouts. But McCarthy just hands off in those situations like he is coaching the ****ing 1993 Cowboys or something.
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01-26-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
Yes, but ints happen and it isn't like the standard McCarthyism is something new. Micheal Lombardi on the Jim Rome show even stated, paraphrased, "Why did the Packers lose 6 games and almost miss the playoffs? Conservative in late games. They should have not lost 6 games and in the playoffs, they should have not been in the 2 close games they have been." Funny that he says that, but no one calls out McCarthy for this stuff. I have been hearing how great of a coach he is, but I guess is negatives are standard for the industry all things considered just from this seasons playoffs. ie. timeout by IND, Martz play calling on that last drive. I am sure there is more that I can't think of right now off the top of my head.
No one is ever going to criticize a coach for conservatism and playing it safe. You figure the media is going to have to stand somewhere on this. They can't criticize a guy for passing to try and seal a game and failing, while criticizing a coach for not going for the dagger.

While McCarthy does play it conservative and does make a good amount of mistakes, he doesn't get noticed because it's never just one big mistake that is evident to everyone.
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01-27-2011 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
Yes, but ints happen and it isn't like the standard McCarthyism is something new. Micheal Lombardi on the Jim Rome show even stated, paraphrased, "Why did the Packers lose 6 games and almost miss the playoffs? Conservative in late games. They should have not lost 6 games and in the playoffs, they should have not been in the 2 close games they have been." Funny that he says that, but no one calls out McCarthy for this stuff. I have been hearing how great of a coach he is, but I guess is negatives are standard for the industry all things considered just from this seasons playoffs. ie. timeout by IND, Martz play calling on that last drive. I am sure there is more that I can't think of right now off the top of my head.
i dont disagree with a word youve said, ive been a play calling critic of his for a while now. just pointed out you wouldnt be saying this because you wouldnt have the option if they were up by 3 scores. i get wholly queezy when the 4th quarter come around because of the playcalling. but his gameplan there seemed to be play conservative, use field position, make a 3rd string qb execute 2/3 long td drives against a very talented D. personally i think you can rag on a game plan but its not one here where you could argue with its use, the bears didnt have a quick strike offense or talented QB.

bill- i would love to see them pass more, especially v teams like chi and pitt who truthfully have avg corners and safteys (ex polomaleau), pitt hasnt had a pro bowl cb since rod woodson!
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01-27-2011 , 01:44 AM
McCarthy sucks, only been to an NFC Championship game and Super Bowl in 5 years.
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01-27-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
No one is ever going to criticize a coach for conservatism and playing it safe. You figure the media is going to have to stand somewhere on this. They can't criticize a guy for passing to try and seal a game and failing, while criticizing a coach for not going for the dagger.

While McCarthy does play it conservative and does make a good amount of mistakes, he doesn't get noticed because it's never just one big mistake that is evident to everyone.
For the record he did choose to throw deep on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, with his backup QB, on the last two plays of the game. He got grilled out a lot by the media for that and I was upset as well, but I've come around to the idea to the point where I think it's a decent playcall. I mean McCarthy has come up with some brilliant stuff - the onside to start the Pats game, the fake FG Flynn to Quarless play that SHOULD HAVE worked, last weeks B.J. Raji misdirection bootleg. Hopefully he knows his job is safe now and will take more chances??
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01-27-2011 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
McCarthy sucks, only been to 2 NFC Championship games and Super Bowl in 5 years.
fyp
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01-28-2011 , 07:04 PM
Random factoid: The Packers have never trailed by more than 7 points this season, and if that holds true next week, they will be the first team in the Super Bowl era to have never trailed by more than a TD all season.
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01-31-2011 , 01:04 PM
teams in SB, no 2nd page.
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01-31-2011 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by knivesout
Anyone know why they celebrated in the locker room instead of on the field? Part of the fun of winning the NFC Championship is getting to party on the other team's turf. I've never seen it done any other way. I was thinking it maybe had to do with them being rivals and not wanting to disrespect a long rivalry, but that seems like kind of a stupid reason.
Ask and you shall (sort of) receive

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...end-mailbag-34
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02-03-2011 , 01:31 PM
so much green bay stuff to read this week on espn. awesome.
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02-03-2011 , 11:03 PM
The last couple weeks have been an awesome time to be a packer fan. love and attention from pretty much everywhere (twitter incident aside)...not really used to this. hope the next two weeks are even better, go pack go
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02-05-2011 , 12:52 PM
Thread needs to be bumped for 1k post itt and the fact that the Bears thread was bumped Nearing 30 hour countdown. Starting to get a little excited now.
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