Here is a stand alone version of the commentary:

why did they improperly use i.e.

it should be e.g. without the etc

preet sending out them subpoenas too

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/us-pro...20151021-01510

It's gotten so ridiculous between the sites and people making $ off DFS defending it (at least over in the SE forum) that even I don't care if DFS gets banned at this point. Hell I'm actually kinda rooting for it. If you're proud of all the $ you win at $1 h2h cash games; go **** yourself and I'm all for the make it while you can mantra.

I couldn't open that link,here's another.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/22...as-draftkings/

Preet's really gonna be on the warpath.He had to cut loose a bunch of alleged insider traders today because a judge said he played a little to fast and loose with the rules.I bet he's really pissed.

DFS contests are not supposed to be based on the outcome of games. Could picking a team defense make daily NFL contests illegal? What about getting points for when a pitcher or goalie records a respective win in daily MLB, daily soccer, and daily NHL contests?

this is a really bitter and small-minded way of thinking.

TomG!!! it's like seeing Bigfoot!

you end up taking the free DFS money or you still wearing a tie to work? been meaning to ask, always wondered if you went back to it or not based on your feelings towards DFS like a year ago...

Yeah sites would be thrilled with giving say half a mill each state plus 10% (of the rake, not the buyins) to the states as long as it's a collective player pool. Isn't a huge financial commitment for FD/DK and creates a significant entry barrier for startups.

Good for the states and the sites. Keeps the duopoly going so good for keeping rake up. Stifles competition.

Neither are quite true (pity/embarrassment instead of bitter and society is certainly better off without DFS) but look at it this way, I'm literally DFS's target customer and I'm already sick of players and companies.

Yeah, gov't will certainly take their cut and then add a barrier to entry to benefit those big sites like gov't always does. Win/win for $$$$$, lose for everyone else.

I agree with most of what you say, especially the bolded, but to say society is certainly better off without DFS is just ridiculous, even though I think I know what you mean. People really enjoy the game and it allows for a better sports viewing experience, so despite the general overall -EVness to it it has tremendous utility.

pretty sure Preet's case had little to do with Ethan and insider trading. that was another prosecutors' case (FBI and some other US atty I think)

Preet's case is questioning the legality of DFS at the federal level, much like he did with online poker.

See this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1001

It's actually pretty disgusting how biased the articles in the ny times have been. So much to the point I'll probably never believe anything they write again.

The writer of all these articles obviously had never played fantasy football.

I think it would be possible to write a more balanced article that could look at the positives and negatives of the industry, even if he chose to highlight the negatives.

i think DFS should be legal (and regulated to ensure fair games)
but it makes me sick to see this stuff advertised all over the TV while online poker remains "illegal" in the states.

it's just incredibly hypocritical.....

hypocritical by who?

i assume he means us govt?

the word you want is "inconsistent" which is obvious

You would be amazed at how many Pulitzer Prizes this reporting crew has actually won, I was seriously astounded.

Look them up.

(For me the irony is that I bought a digital subscription to follow this series. )

From the FSTA today:

This is laughable. One contradiction after another from all these guys. They might as well get licensed by the Kahnawake's.


"We can establish and enforce these systems ourselves, or we can put our industry in the hands of outside entities who do not understand the industry as we do – outside entities who are not as able nor as committed to establishing rules and regulations that ensure integrity and transparency while allowing the industry to continue to thrive. Simply put, the leadership of the FSTA believes that we cannot and should not allow the future of our industry to rest in the hands of others."

"I'm very pleased to announce the creation of the Fantasy Sports Control Agency (FSCA), a group formed by the Fantasy Sports Trade Association for the purpose of bringing enhanced transparency, ethics and integrity to the industry. I’m also pleased to announce that the Chairman of the FSCA is Seth D. Harris, the Former Acting U.S. Secretary of Labor for the Obama Administration."

"The FSCA will be an independent authority, beholden to no company within the FSTA nor the FSTA itself - providing the framework necessary to provide clear, operable direction to our paid contest operators. "

In one breath they say how outsiders cannot be trusted to provide guidance for this industry. In the next breath they say that the new entity they created will not be beholden to the FSTA or operators. Makes me wonder how this new entity will not be beholden to the FSTA or their operators. It was created by the FSTA and their operators for the sole purpose of changing the perceptions of those who oppose them and to correct any misconceptions from those who support them.

sucks i was using DK thru VPN with an address out of NV (its actually a lot i own and i have the mail forwarded to NV)

and now they want confirmation of my new address with utility bill + license showing that address

Good job by draftkings shifting to pretty much all double ups instead of 50/50s. Make the fish lose money even faster.

They must of did some type of research where customers complained and didn't understand why a $1 50/50 only wins $1.80.

Cannot disagree, it doesnt look to hold much weight, and is a bit late to the game.