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07-09-2017 , 06:50 AM
LOL Ebb And Flow

Drama hate drama hate drama hate...then the lull, almost like the Team goes to the edge and says.." ok , ok wait dont go too far with the hate, just enough to generate interest again then back to boring, then back to drama, then back to boring etc etc..."

Same 10 doods

Where are all the thousands of "fans" that Pooper supposedly has? This thread should have been blowing up with faces even b4 the "no 2017 accounts"

I think its funny people think this dude and others are legit and not another lonelygirl15 production team ( clueless , unprofessional and talentless at that)

At least they got Neeme & the other effeminate to generate some income

Illusions gonna Illusion

Wheres Tappan & WheyMyCheese? Too crowded? ������
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07-09-2017 , 06:56 AM
I'd be embarrassed to show that HH tbh , troop obviously not as he kinda makes out it was right play . Just watched jnandez vlog and it's just him breaking down high stakes PLO hands , interesting to get a view into the high stakes cash games
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07-09-2017 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cantor1987
I'd be embarrassed to show that HH tbh , troop obviously not as he kinda makes out it was right play .
Troop isnt embarrassed at all, he's proud of that HH. He looks at everything completely backwards. In his mind he predicted they'd raise, the fact they turned up with hands was just coincidence. The reality is that the coincidence was that they raised, having hands should have always been the expectation. But he'd never see it that way. So he's results oriented in a way that he thinks he can read people.
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07-09-2017 , 08:25 AM
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I definitely don't like to be cheap, and I don't think i am cheap. If i go to a coffee house and the latte is $7, I pay the $7. But at the same time I do try to be a little bit frugal and not throw money away.
I just don't understand how Trooper can afford to eat and drink on the strip.

Yes, I know some of it is comp points, and yes some of it is free Starbucks Cards from fans, but much of it is coming out of his own pockets.

A slice of Pizza on the strip, with tax is easily over $7 a slice. Eating in a casino is easily $20 and up.

Trooper rarely eats a meal at home. The first words out of Trooper's mouth when he leaves the house is "I'm starving"

I just can't understand how Trooper can afford his daily food purchases.

And don't even get me going on his healthy diet that he eats, off camera.
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07-09-2017 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
He jammed KQs preflop? Not just jammed, but limp jammed $200+ after a raise and a reraise? Did he think he was representing AA or KK and people would fold or did he think people were reraising with hands worse than KQs?



So he flopped a straight and won the pot? Let me guess, he knew the hand was gonna play out exactly like that so he is a genius? So he limped in EP with KQs knowing it was going to be raised? Then he jammed over a raise and reraise knowing that he was behind but would flop a straight? And then he got the straight so it was a genius play on his end because the other opponent blinked twice indicating that he was gonna get outflopped?



So he was behind preflop to 2 opponents for sure, who showed, and probably behind the 3rd as well, who didn't show, and then sucked out on all of them on the flop with his straight and proclaimed that he knew exactly how that hand was going to go down.

I could argue that he shouldn't be results orientated but he simply shouldn't be this dumb. This 100% explains how he is losing $500 a session on most nights.

Who shoves KQs into that much action for $200+ knowing that they are behind at least one or more people preflop and that there is minimal to no fold equity?

He'll get there once in a blue moon, rack up quickly, book a win, and consider himself a poker genius. It's EXACTLY like the slot players who remember winning $1000 that one time and choose to ignore the 15 times they lost $200.

I 100% guarantee that he had no idea where he was in that hand and is trying to discuss strategy retrospectively. Or, he is simply gambling..
The hat does say 'Go Gamble' NOT 'Get it in Good'..
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07-09-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I would not want to be shown on a vlog. I have actually wondered if it would be possible to produce a decent poker vlog of my own without ever having my face on camera. (Not that I would....I'm just curious about the feasibility.)
There's a few main reasons why I chose this route, the biggest one it makes it more difficult for poker rooms to figure out who you are so I been easily flying UTR when i am filming...also going different times of the day and night helps as well problem is youtube is huge and learning how to get subs isn't easy. I have a few god ideas that i will implement once I get my videos to where I want them in 1080k format. The new camera I got is fantastic. I am going to give this route some time to work out i give it about a year. I don't vlog accept one day a week but once I get my editing speed up faster I will try and produce 2 videos in one day and release them 3-4 days apart.
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07-09-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by javi
Imagine I went to the bodybuilding.com forums and created a vlog detailing a workout lifestyle and all i did was eat donuts, never lift, complain, etc. I'd probably get a lot of attention there too.
This was a very good analysis regarding WHY Trooper gets so much hate on TwoPlusTwo. However, I'd like to make a counter-argument, which is that Trooper did not go to the forums and start the original thread.

Someone else started a thread about a guy making YouTube vids when he moved to Vegas to play poker. Furthermore, Troop has been making videos a long time, way before he moved to Las Vegas.

Yes, he considers himself a poker grinder, he is attracted to what he seems to consider a kind of renegade, cowboy lifestyle playing cards and doing whatever the hell he pleases. But he never considered himself a member of the poker community, and he did make that clear many times early on...

I think the poker community initially embraced him, and Trooper certainly enjoyed being embraced by the community and welcomed it. He played into it, he started to cater to it, and he took advantage of the perks.

Was that wrong of him to do? Not sure I can blame him for doing it, but maybe with some foresight he could have realized that in all likelihood people would eventually resent him for pretending to be something he's not.

It would be a little like someone who makes goofy YouTube videos about their aspirations to be the next Mr. Olympia, all the while hardly doing any of the real work to make it a reality. If someone posted their vids to a bodybuilding forum, that person would for sure get goofed on...

But it's also the community's "fault" for somehow believing the ruse, when Trooper himself never claimed to be part of this group, nor did he ever show any real evidence of having what it took to make his supposed dreams a reality.
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07-09-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t
Trooper quote from recent vlog:


I just don't understand how Trooper can afford to eat and drink on the strip.

Yes, I know some of it is comp points, and yes some of it is free Starbucks Cards from fans, but much of it is coming out of his own pockets.

A slice of Pizza on the strip, with tax is easily over $7 a slice. Eating in a casino is easily $20 and up.

Trooper rarely eats a meal at home. The first words out of Trooper's mouth when he leaves the house is "I'm starving"

I just can't understand how Trooper can afford his daily food purchases.

And don't even get me going on his healthy diet that he eats, off camera.
This is why he will forever be living paycheck to paycheck. And exactly why he's been living like that for the past 45+ years. No plan to save for retirement, no health insurance, been collecting unemployment here and there for years, dodging taxes all his life so minimal social security when he's old (getting there quicker and quicker), and a gambling habit to boot.

It's actually not that much of an outlier in the US. It's sad.
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07-09-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gorvnice
This was a very good analysis regarding WHY Trooper gets so much hate on TwoPlusTwo. However, I'd like to make a counter-argument, which is that Trooper did not go to the forums and start the original thread.

Someone else started a thread about a guy making YouTube vids when he moved to Vegas to play poker. Furthermore, Troop has been making videos a long time, way before he moved to Las Vegas.

Yes, he considers himself a poker grinder, he is attracted to what he seems to consider a kind of renegade, cowboy lifestyle playing cards and doing whatever the hell he pleases. But he never considered himself a member of the poker community, and he did make that clear many times early on...

I think the poker community initially embraced him, and Trooper certainly enjoyed being embraced by the community and welcomed it. He played into it, he started to cater to it, and he took advantage of the perks.

Was that wrong of him to do? Not sure I can blame him for doing it, but maybe with some foresight he could have realized that in all likelihood people would eventually resent him for pretending to be something he's not.

It would be a little like someone who makes goofy YouTube videos about their aspirations to be the next Mr. Olympia, all the while hardly doing any of the real work to make it a reality. If someone posted their vids to a bodybuilding forum, that person would for sure get goofed on...

But it's also the community's "fault" for somehow believing the ruse, when Trooper himself never claimed to be part of this group, nor did he ever show any real evidence of having what it took to make his supposed dreams a reality.
All this is true but the guy gets "hate" because he's arrogant, has zero self awareness, contradicts himself every vlog, claims to always be the best at everything and then under-delivers EVERY SINGLE TIME, and he then encourages the "hate" by calling out the "haters" and cursing them out.
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07-09-2017 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LVNightCrawler
There's a few main reasons why I chose this route, the biggest one it makes it more difficult for poker rooms to figure out who you are so I been easily flying UTR when i am filming...also going different times of the day and night helps as well problem is youtube is huge and learning how to get subs isn't easy. I have a few god ideas that i will implement once I get my videos to where I want them in 1080k format. The new camera I got is fantastic. I am going to give this route some time to work out i give it about a year. I don't vlog accept one day a week but once I get my editing speed up faster I will try and produce 2 videos in one day and release them 3-4 days apart.
Are there any other successful vlogs on YouTube that don't have a face to them? (Other than educational or collections of clips?) I think you need to find a purpose and theme for your vlog and decide if not having a face to it would help the cause or hurt it.

If you are simply doing a poker tutorial vlog, the face isn't necessary. If you are simply doing a "what to do in Vegas" vlog, same story. But if you want to show the poker lifestyle and show the emotional side of the game and how someone deals with the ups and downs, you need a good personalty.

Also, without people getting attached to a personality, you need to draw them in with something else: Awesome visual effects/editing or amazing information not found elsewhere.

There's a reason the top poker related vlogs are all centered around faces and personalities (Polk, Negreanu, Neeme, and Trooper).
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07-09-2017 , 01:15 PM
KQ hand

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07-09-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
Are there any other successful vlogs on YouTube that don't have a face to them?
This guy keeps his face time to a minimum. A beginner, or a losing player, (aka Trooper) could improve their game watching this guy's vlogs.



https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChl...xjT8pyaYRCIsEg
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07-09-2017 , 01:28 PM
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P.S. While I am not Roast King (calm down white knights), I definitely see his point of view and think this will get interesting.

Roast King posts long winded diatribes against Trooper on YouTube
mrducks posts long winded diatribes against trooper on 2p2.

Roast King has a New York type accent. Long Island? South Shore?
mrducks Location: New York, NY

Circumstancial evidence for sure. But enough to persuade me.
Btw, it is unfair to call me a "white knight". I think Trooper is a shmendrik. And I lol'd at that Roast King video. So there.
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07-09-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HelloFriends
I wouldn't watch a faceless vlog.
Why?
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07-09-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Why?
Not to say I wouldnt watch one, but I can see why people wouldnt. Imagine if Neeme never showed himself on camera. Do you think he would have the fan base that he has now? If no one knows who is behind the vlogs and what they look like, I think theyre missing a pretty big step in connecting with their audience.

Although its seemed to work out pretty well for Banksy. So there are exceptions I suppose. And no, Banksy isnt a poker vlogger
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07-09-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
What's wrong with following this thread on my phone while enjoying some fireworks and hanging out with friends? Do you not have a phone that can access the internet?

Pistol Noon seems to be more obsessed with me and other posters in this thread than I am with Trooper and other vloggers, and that's saying A LOT.
You should be enjoying the experience with your friends and not looking at your phone reading and posting walls of texts in this thread. Also, your phone with internet access presumably has the entire internet at your fingertips and not just this thread and Trooper's YouTube channel, right? Yet you choose to access that vast web of information and entertainment to post in this thread. On the Fourth of July.
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07-09-2017 , 02:32 PM
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.....His actions in the last couple vlogs ****ting on the lower buyin tourneys isn't refreshing to me at all. It just shows an elitist attitude of a guy who thinks he's too good for lower buyin WSOP events. It's also him whining about the POY point system structure in his passive-aggressive way. I don't find any of this redeeming or entertaining. If he wants to tilt about certain hands, have at it. But grouping entire fields as terrible and acting like he couldn't care less about them because of the buyin is a slap in the face to 99% of his audience......
Well said. DN has a very subtle arrogance to him that is extremely distasteful. I mean, on the surface the guy is nice and tries to be congenial to everyone. But you're right, going out of his way to be a total d**k to the field and the guy at his table is worse than what Kasouf did.
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07-09-2017 , 02:33 PM
I would not watch a faceless vlog either..there is no connection with the vlog maker good or bad

My favorite trooper quote from the last vid was his dream would be to hit the gym and pool and play poker everyday but he has to do these vlogs He has a very nice pool and gym at his place that he seems to not use at all

If there is one thing he should be very good at by now it's editing a vlog fast especially after hearing Brad Owen talk about the time difference it takes laying out hand graphics vs using hand replayer..trooper has no graphics or hand replays anyhow probably can do a 10 minute vid in 3 hours..3 hrs seems to be about a average session playing poker for him also..so yeah busy guy oh yeah CEO of tropperwear love how he acts like he is Bill Gates of online tshirt shops
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07-09-2017 , 03:18 PM
someone should vlog trooper hands and discuss all the hands that he plays
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07-09-2017 , 03:24 PM
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But grouping entire fields as terrible and acting like he couldn't care less about them because of the buyin is a slap in the face to 99% of his audience.
99% of Daniel's audience isn't playing $3k or even $1.5lktournaments. They are playing $20 tournaments in someone's basement. (Most of the non-gimmick low buy-in WSOP events get about 1000 players, which his vlog gets 50-100k viewers a day.)

By trashing the strength of these fields, he probably thinks he is encouraging most of his audience to play in the WSOP. He's telling them not to be scared to play in a low-buy event just because the high buy-in events seem to be filled with such intimidating players.
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07-09-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots
someone should vlog trooper hands and discuss all the hands that he plays


This wouldn't be very good. There is rarely enough info provided about the hand to do this.


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07-09-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spree662
... CEO of tropperwear ...
Get it straight people ...

It's TrooperWare, not TrooperWear

How many times does Trooper have to spell it out for you people !
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07-09-2017 , 03:51 PM
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@TheTrooper97 any idea of who this roast king ******* is?

lol
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07-09-2017 , 04:08 PM
Roast King should sprinkle in some reviews of Arby's.
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07-09-2017 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
99% of Daniel's audience isn't playing $3k or even $1.5lktournaments. They are playing $20 tournaments in someone's basement. (Most of the non-gimmick low buy-in WSOP events get about 1000 players, which his vlog gets 50-100k viewers a day.)

By trashing the strength of these fields, he probably thinks he is encouraging most of his audience to play in the WSOP. He's telling them not to be scared to play in a low-buy event just because the high buy-in events seem to be filled with such intimidating players.
I disagree that this was even remotely part of his thought process when he went into this rant spanning multiple vlogs.
I think his only angle is trying to discredit all of those low buyin min-cashers who find themselves among the POY leaderboard.(FWIW, I don't disagree with him having an issue with the system, just detest the way he chose to take his stance)

I understand that you're a big Negreanu fan, and much of what you say is fairly well thought out. Putting a spin on this topic is quite a stretch though.

To each their own though. Nothing wrong with healthy debate.
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