Again most people are watching on an app. I haven't watched once on the CW Network vs the LIV app. If they get on a real network like FoxSports or FS1 (I don't ever see them on ABC, NBC, or ESPN) and nobody watches then you'll have a much more valid point.

And again you picked Mother's Day weekend. Both tours were a second thought to most people unless they were gambling on it.

Lol you couldn't possibly have made this rant more politically geared and insane if you tried. Chill out dude.

But it’s all true even though you don’t want to admit it

Good to see HV3 win on US soil. Koepka making 300k after a week of doing victory tours is impressive. Good to see Daniel jumping on board.

Honestly if you didn't post LIV results I wouldn't even know they played a tournament. And I'm not bashing you. I'm kind of amazed at how little coverage they get.

That's fair, but they're realistically only in year 1 of putting out their league and getting it on a network. They never expected this to take off over night. Word is that this is a 10 year venture and they're not just folding up after 2-3 years. Once sponsors come, teams are bought (I can't get into the F1 team thing for golf either), and they move to a channel you're used to with commercials just like it's CBS or NBC broadcast then we'll see.

I watch on the app, and for the schedule where they've chosen to not compete with the designated PGA events, I'd say when they're on during those weeks it's better and more interesting than what the PGA Tour has going that weekend. Sorry but Emiliano Grillo battling it out vs Adam Schenk isn't must watch golf at all unless you have money on it.

Look at this T10 leaderboard. Who wants to watch that?

1 E. Grillo -8
2 A. Schenk -8
T3 S. Scheffler -7
T3 H. Hall -7
5 P. Haley -6
T6 M. Kim -5
T6 S. Burns -5
T6 R. Fowler -5
T9 M. Hubbard -4
T9 M. Homa -4
T9 K. Streelman -4

tough break for Mito Pereira as his hopes for playing in this year's Open are dashed (that said, he knew what he was signing up for when he took MBS' bag). Mito falls from #50 to #54 in the updated OWGR and misses out (the top 50 in today's updated OWGR rankings booked a spot to Royal Liverpool if they didn't already qualify)

Ancer barely makes it as he continues to bleed OWGR pts and drops to #49 (from #46 last week)

nice to see YOUNG RICKIE racking up the OWGR pts and booking his spot in this year's last major (he moved to #46 from #52 w his T-6 performance at Colonial over the weekend)

I dunno, for a week after a major and a non-designated event, the field was decent. Some of the big names didn't play well but hey that happens. A few big names in that top 10, a few solid journeymen, rookies, vets, etc. Pretty standard.

Liv has zero buzz right now, even the week after their guy won a major. Will that change eventually? Possible if they can get a better TV deal I suppose. CW ain't cutting it but if they could get on a major streaming service or Fox or ESPN, who knows. Then maybe they could lure away some more top PGA talent. They still need more than the 8 or so top-tier golfers they currently have.

Being honest, that leaderboard sucks and is the type of tournaments that should probably be done away with. If PGA could compromise with LIV and work together where every weekend is basically a “designated event” no matter which tour it would be a lot better golf to watch. I would like it if all the top players played wherever they pleased in big fields.

This is the type of attitude that really frustrates me.

Golf is about many things, not just about the best of the best. It's about middle of the road guys banking a top 5 finish and moving really close to keeping their dream job for the next year. It's about a first time Monday qualifier making the cut and getting paid enough money so they can continue to chase the Mondays for the rest of the year. It's about a no name winning a Korn Ferry event and basically guaranteeing their PGA Tour card for the following season.

I can promise you the finish those guys had this week who you think suck means infinitely more to them than it does Brooks winning a LIV event.

The so called no-names are where the really interesting stories are if people would choose to pay attention. But those who are only interested in following the big names only miss out on what professional golf is all about.

I’m open to both sides and what both bring. It’s the anti LIV bunch that make one hypocritical argument after another and constantly mention tv ratings after 1 year while their tournaments on opposing weeks are far from anything worth watching. Every single tourney that has been the same week as LIV was uninteresting unless you were gambling on it.

You might love the story lines of no names trying to keep a card and stuff, but sponsors like Honda pulling out of the Honda Classic because nobody cared, and all of these other opposing events with sub par attendance and coverage and horrible fields tells a lot.

Again the PGA designated events, with a 30 year head start of tv coverage is going to currently crush LIV. These other useless tourneys like every one that LIV is playing against is basically pick which ever you please to watch. What is so wrong with a golf league with better players playing for a win vs what was on display at the Charles Schwab this weekend?

The following players finished in the top 10 in the LIV event this weekend. Harold Varner III, Mito Pereira, Sebastian Munoz, Andy Ogletree, and Cameron Tringale. How many PGA Tour wins do those guys have?

You really think bashing PGA Tour fields is going to make a valid point?

Well Harold did take down one of the biggest fields in golf when he won the Saudi International (funny how nobody had a problem with anybody taking Saudi money that week and the PGA Tour proudly put it up on their website), Mito was one hole away from winning the PGA Championship and is clearly talented, and Sebastian does have a win.

It's not so much as bashing PGA fields as pointing out that they literally have nothing remotely more watchable than what LIV has on that weekend since everybody wants to bash LIV and their ratings.

Gonna disagree strongly there.

this argument is so LOL.

The Saudi International was a *tournament*, not a *tour*...a tour created with the specific intent to lure away players from an existing tour (with the promise that 'you can just play in both cause they wont do anything about it).

So yes...perfectly fine to take that Saudi money when the goal is to actually spread and build the game and not perfectly fine (if you want to remain liked) to take their money when they form a competing tour and hold events in your country instead of theirs and lure away your players instead of developing their own.

Had LIV been created in Saudi and held most of their events in Saudi, nobody would give a rats ass if Phil and others *left* and went over their to play for the big checks and develop interest in the game *over there*.

...but that is not what happened is it...

Your takes on golf and LIV are hysterically awful and you flip flop from one hypocritical argument after another.

So now your argument is that LIV hosts too many tournaments in the USA and only the PGA Tour should be allowed to do so, and heaven forbid another tour offer more money to play golf at home and abroad. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

yeah, i'm sure Australians would be super happy if the US government funded a group to go and setup a rugby league down there, change a bunch of the rules and lure away as many players as will take the cash.

Andy Olgletree went to LIV last season, played terrible and lost his playing status and was no longer a member of any tour. Since then he has since recovered from injury, grinded the Asian tour and been able to play well in some LIV events. After his finish last week he has a chance to finish top 24 for the season and get his full time LIV playing status back. There's really interesting stories if people would choose to pay attention.

lol

Anybody played poker live with Sergio Garcia? If so, where? I played with a guy at Caesars Southern IN a few months ago, looked dead on him, when he finally said something was dead on his accent, and when he stood up was exactly the right size. When I asked him, what he said echoes in my head now as exactly what he might have said if it was him but wanted to be incognito: "No, I sure hear that a lot though." A strange type of tone to it. So anyway looking him up now I see he is indeed a poker player. Still a long shot.

Carlos Ortiz currently on the 5th hole of a playoff for a U.S. Open spot after there was a tie after 36 holes today. Golf Channel announcer mentioned that he's played almost as many holes today as he does during a normal week on the LIV Tour. Nice dig.

Serious question - you obviously hate LIV golf, so why don't you just ignore it, rather than follow the LIV thread to make digs of your own when you see the chance to do so?

Just google 'Sergio Garcia poker' and you will see that he is definitely someone you might have met on the table.

Merging with PGA! Omfg! Didn’t see that coming, thought the news account was hacked when first saw on Twitter.

Geez, quite sure so many maxi’s now feel betrayed.

A great day for the game of golf as well as professional golf. Good tobsee competent leadership and common sense preval. Hopefully now the angry losers can find something else to bitch about on the internet.