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06-06-2023 , 10:31 AM

#1301

g-bebe

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Looks like most of the LIV'ers will be able to apply for re-instatement, once those terms are agreed upon, for the 2024 season, so still only the righteous ones get into the USO or The Open Championship.

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06-06-2023 , 11:00 AM

#1302

PokerHero77

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I'm guessing LIV/PIF decided that it's better to gain some form of control for their money spent, so they likely approached Monahan with an enticing offer. Monahan probably realized that the player pool for PGA Tour was not getting much better, so he decided to surrender some power in exchange for getting the LIV players back + forming a world-wide tour with potentially huge purses. I also believe PGA Tour was not in solid financial footing going forward, losing Honda sponsorship was the canary in the coal mine indicating that the bifurcated tour was not sustainable.

Kind of a win-win-win for everybody.

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06-06-2023 , 11:03 AM

#1303

C Bids

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,777

Win win win win for the LIVeraters if they get to keep that guaranteed $

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06-06-2023 , 11:04 AM

#1304

ligastar

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crazy that Monahan made this decision without engaging his players (according to reports). might the Players Advisory Board be looking into steps at how to remove him from his post?

more news to follow, of course, but crazy that the PGA Tour (Monahan I suppose) consciously made the decision to get in bed w MBS. wild stuff

Brandel Chamblee gonna spontaneously combust

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06-06-2023 , 11:07 AM

#1305

PokerHero77

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With the potentially huge purse structure going forward, I'm thinking the players have to be loving this development.

This might also explain why the Tour delayed announcing the 2024 schedule.

I can't believe Rors was not involved in the discussions at some point. I'm guessing he back-channeled a lot of this.

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06-06-2023 , 11:32 AM

#1306

TimTimSalabim

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bwahahaha

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06-06-2023 , 11:49 AM

#1307

PokerHero77

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Aslo part of the agreement is creation of a single "for profit" entity.

That gets PGA Tour out of its machinations of a not-for-profit organization. A for-profit entity has to be the biggest selling point for LIV/PIF.

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06-06-2023 , 11:51 AM

#1308

Shifty86

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Originally Posted by PokerHero77

I think it was a number of things happening. More PGA players were going to make the move after this season, LIV was likely to start getting OWGR'S soon and the court battles weren't going to go in the PGAT's favor.

Have to hand it to Phil and Norman. They weren't happy with the professional golf landscape and they went out and changed it. This is a huge win for pro golfers no matter what tour they play on.

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06-06-2023 , 11:52 AM

#1309

gmcarroll33

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Originally Posted by ligastar

Haha he's oddly quiet on twitter right now. I thought he'd be losing his mind by now.

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06-06-2023 , 11:53 AM

#1310

Shifty86

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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33

Haha he's oddly quiet on twitter right now. I thought he'd be losing his mind by now.

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06-06-2023 , 11:57 AM

#1311

14cobster

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The main thing I'm wondering now is if the best LIV players will be able to play a minimal amount of PGA Tour events while competing on LIV. And what it will take to keep your PGA Tour card going forward.

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06-06-2023 , 12:10 PM

#1312

Shifty86

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Moral of the story, never turn down a significant pay raise for doing the same job.

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06-06-2023 , 12:19 PM

#1313

gmcarroll33

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Originally Posted by Shifty86

Anti-LIVers flipping out everywhere over the "blood money" and now the PGA Tour proves it as all about the money and is a part of it too. Hahaha.

Look up PGA Tour new blood money on twitter and see what pops up.

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06-06-2023 , 12:30 PM

#1314

lozen

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Guess the blood money is ok now

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06-06-2023 , 12:38 PM

#1315

revots33

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Ladies and gentleman your new commissioner

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06-06-2023 , 12:41 PM

#1316

lozen

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Should have access to TV as well now well at least something better than CW network

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06-06-2023 , 12:47 PM

#1317

Bidz

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lolol

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06-06-2023 , 12:52 PM

#1318

revots33

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lolol

Hahahaha that is great. Poulter had me dead.

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06-06-2023 , 02:38 PM

#1319

revots33

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Bottom line is that the PGA saw that most people had shrugged off the Saudi blood money angle. No one seemed to care after the first couple of weeks or so. So they figured, let's end the lawsuits and get the Saudi money.

Kinda sad imo but money always wins.

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06-06-2023 , 02:42 PM

#1320

Shifty86

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Confirmed time traveler.

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06-06-2023 , 03:06 PM

#1321

ddmullet02

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Originally Posted by Shifty86

Confirmed time traveler.

Except I would bet good money that all of the upper echelon of pga tour players will be getting big checks up front to agree to this merger.

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06-06-2023 , 03:40 PM

#1322

campfirewest

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If this is real I’m going to have a field day calling people out for the hot loads of hypocrisy all over their faces.

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06-06-2023 , 05:18 PM

#1323

gmcarroll33

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https://twitter.com/ByeongHunAn/stat...740189184?s=20

Too bad for Hideki. Ben An spot on

Last edited by gmcarroll33; 06-06-2023 at 05:24 PM.

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06-06-2023 , 05:50 PM

#1324

Hey_Porter

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The devil is truly going to be in the details here. Whole announcement is at about 500,000 feet of what will need to happen.

PGA Tour and Jay are just....wow.

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06-06-2023 , 05:52 PM

#1325

gmcarroll33

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Looks like Greg Norman is out. Personally Jay Monahan should be out. What a total hypocrite he and all the anti-LIVers look now. He just took the money that he told all of the PGA players not to take.