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03-31-2014 , 01:08 AM
It was actually coming off the 12th green when they were informed they were no longer being timed.

Good for Bowditch, although he was helped by nobody anywhere close to him making a move. Then again this course is a bitch so easier said than done.
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03-31-2014 , 01:11 AM
BO, is slow play not a bigger issue than anchored putters? Which is more detrimental to the game as a whole? Slow play or signing an incorrect scorecard? I think slow play is one of the most important issues right now. Like you said, it's trickling down to every level of golf. It's mucking up all of our courses.

How many people did Loupe affect this week on the course? How many amateurs off the course? I know there will be people doing a couple extra practice swings and seizures now that they watched him.
03-31-2014 , 09:24 AM
I think pre shot routines are fine and these guys are playing for huge money so obviously they are going to wait u til they are 100% mental set each shot. That being said Loupes pre shot routine on his drives is ridic. Nobody needs to take that many practice swings and back away from the ball three freaken times. If i have a kid and he plays golf and he pulls that crap ill pull him off the course until he learns to get up there and hit it.
03-31-2014 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Underrated
Chesson Hadley ‏@chadleyprogolf 16m
Big day today on the course. Great thing about it is God already has it under control. Whether I make it or not He is still the same. #GOOD
I guess it was God's plan to shoot an 80 on Sunday (and not play the Masters this year).

http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgato...corecards/r041
03-31-2014 , 11:49 AM
bo, are there any classless sports dominated by white people?
03-31-2014 , 12:16 PM
If there is any way possible I would like to see the gallery pushed back a bit(last couple tournaments I have seen to many players get saved by them) hospitality tents are on top of greens(**** that let ball go past down or wherever it would have gone without tents stopping right there getting relief drop then getting up and down to save par
03-31-2014 , 12:23 PM
Bowditch is way too close to having a unibrow. Hopefully he puts $15 of his winnings towards getting that fixed.
03-31-2014 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
bo, are there any classless sports dominated by white people?
Show dog competitions, noodling
03-31-2014 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tzwien
BO, is slow play not a bigger issue than anchored putters? Which is more detrimental to the game as a whole? Slow play or signing an incorrect scorecard? I think slow play is one of the most important issues right now. Like you said, it's trickling down to every level of golf. It's mucking up all of our courses.

How many people did Loupe affect this week on the course? How many amateurs off the course? I know there will be people doing a couple extra practice swings and seizures now that they watched him.
Well, I use both a belly and a long putter, so I might be a bit biased on that!

I think those are two totally different issues, slow play has to do with the actual play of the game, anchored putters have to do with the integrity of the game and the rules. But let's just stick to talking about slow play.

How many people did Loupe affect? I'd say it works both ways in his case. Yes there will be some players attempting to imitate him, but I would think that after the dressing down he took during Saturday's broadcast, there will also be players make an attempt NOT to act like him.

I truly think slow play on tour trickles down to better players more than average players. Case in point, look at the pace of play in college. I've heard stories about 5-6 hour rounds and was thinking stadler has mentioned similar occurrences. I've watched teenagers who aspire to be pros go through these incredible machinations in their preshot routine. Have also watched pros playing in qualifiers looking at every putt from 5 angles before missing it.

Here's a recent example that I witnessed of slow play amongst an aspiring wannabe. Was at an upscale facility on a Saturday where there is an extensive and successful junior program. Several juniors were on the putting green going through an up and down sequence from several stations. Was doing by best to stay out of their way and just rolling a few quick putts towards one hole. Before I knew it there was a teenager at a chipping station who almost chipped his ball between my legs and towards the hole I was putting at. His chip rolled about 6 feet past, he strode to the hole and yanked the flag out contemptuously throwing it on the ground. Then he began to read his putt, from the other side of the hole. Which was right in my way! Then he read the putt from behind the ball. He then stepped up and snuck his putt in the right edge on the last tumble. He did a small fist pump and just stood there for 3 whole seconds reveling in his success while I've been waiting this entire time for him to get the **** out of my way! Eventually he retrieved his ball from the hole and moved on. Since I was a guest of the facility I said nothing, internally I was kicking this kid in the nuts.

So this is the stuff that concerns me, extremely slow, methodical play, with no consideration whatsoever for those around you. And I don't see this near as much with average golfers, which overall is a good thing. For the most part average golfers might be slow on occasion simply because they are taking more strokes, or stuff like returning to their cart because they didn't take the correct club in the first place. I don't think they are that slow for taking repeated practice swings or looking at putts from 5 angles.

BO
03-31-2014 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
[...]Here's a recent example that I witnessed of slow play amongst an aspiring wannabe. Was at an upscale facility on a Saturday where there is an extensive and successful junior program.[...]
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03-31-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LIL Kicky
If there is any way possible I would like to see the gallery pushed back a bit(last couple tournaments I have seen to many players get saved by them) hospitality tents are on top of greens(**** that let ball go past down or wherever it would have gone without tents stopping right there getting relief drop then getting up and down to save par
My favorite highlight yesterday from a day without many of them: on one hole Kuchar pulled his drive left of the fairway, it hopped a couple of times, then bounces off a guy and back towards the fairway. The guy was wearing jeans, and holding both a cigarette and a can of Bud Light in one hand. His friend proceeds to high five him as apparently being hit by a stray golf ball is an accomplishment of which to be proud. TEXAS.

Although that's the fairway and not really what you are referencing. Agree that the encroachment of bleachers around greens is akin to bowling with inflatable tubes up the gutters. Miss by a mile? No problem! You can just drop it right next to the green and chip on for a fairly straightforward par. Thankfully there are some holes with natural hazards that can't be built over, e.g. the 18th at Doral, the 18th at Bay Hill, the 18th at TPC Deere Run, etc.
03-31-2014 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
bo, are there any classless sports dominated by white people?
How about that one where they regularly break out into fistfights in the middle of the game?
03-31-2014 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tuq
My favorite highlight yesterday from a day without many of them: on one hole Kuchar pulled his drive left of the fairway, it hopped a couple of times, then bounces off a guy and back towards the fairway. The guy was wearing jeans, and holding both a cigarette and a can of Bud Light in one hand. His friend proceeds to high five him as apparently being hit by a stray golf ball is an accomplishment of which to be proud. TEXAS.
Oh the horror.

The reason he was holding both the cigarette and beer in one hand is because he was fighting for Murca's freedom with his other hand. #MERICA
03-31-2014 , 07:00 PM
Really happy for Bowdo. He has worked through so much adversity in his life.
03-31-2014 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
I guess it was God's plan to shoot an 80 on Sunday (and not play the Masters this year).

http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgato...corecards/r041
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03-31-2014 , 08:26 PM
He looks like Striker from Airplane! if instead of a drinking problem he had AIDS.
03-31-2014 , 09:05 PM
His punchability factor is off the charts!
03-31-2014 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brocktoon
His punchability factor is off the charts!
true.


Bowditch the man!
04-01-2014 , 12:34 AM
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My favorite highlight yesterday from a day without many of them: on one hole Kuchar pulled his drive left of the fairway, it hopped a couple of times, then bounces off a guy and back towards the fairway.
That's called doing an Arnold Palmer.
04-01-2014 , 06:37 AM
Can I LOL at BO for getting tilted by a little kid on the practice green?

In my opinion slow methodical play with an overdone amount of consideration for those around you is just as bad as slow play with no consideration for those around you. Like when you have a slow player in the group who's caused the whole foursome to fall way out of position. You end up hitting the ball near the edge of some deep rough and a hazard and tell him to go ahead and play out while you look for it but he won't move past you because it's so ingrained into his head not to do that. Unless you are the only one on the course there will always be someone, (maybe in your group, the group behind, 3 groups behind) and usually many people who have something important to them after the round and don't need to be held up unneccessarily no matter how nice the guy is.

At my club some of the nicest, most courteous gentlemen to play with are some of the slowest. Which makes it tougher because I would feel like a dick complaining so I say nothing directly, or to the ranger or the pro shop.
04-01-2014 , 10:24 AM
One of the biggest perks of belonging to a private club is that, generally, the players aren't slow (at least in my experience).
04-01-2014 , 11:58 AM
Not to mention that most private clubs are full of snitches, so behavior deemed unacceptable gets addressed rather quickly.
04-01-2014 , 12:13 PM
Unless you flake on bets like some *******s at my club who just get away with it.
04-01-2014 , 12:27 PM
Tiger pulls out of the Masters (back surgery)
04-01-2014 , 12:30 PM
In regards to private clubs and speed of play...I played the palms golf club in Palm Springs and they pride themselves as the fastest pace of play for a private club in the USA apparently. We finished our first round there...tough course, first time playing,etc in 3:50 and we were told that we were the slowest foursome of the year so far lol. Second round we got around in just about 3:30 and they said that's right about average. Pretty damn fast for a course that's hard as &@$!
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