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10-07-2014 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by UnitedAs1
Damn guys I must just suck at trading or you all bought Fifa points

I grinded some of the single player season to rack up some coins done a bit of decent trading but nothing too huge. I only had like 15k to play around with and managed to come up with this squad. This should help me out a bit for the few days I think.
You must suck at trading. I am fairly new but the easiest way fr me was to look or players that have buy it nows that go for 450-600 somewhere in that range. You could spend time looking or people who make useful links but I just found guys who were good value at that price and would help budget teams. Ou then search that player with a very small window. Somewhere below that. Fr example I had a player I could unload at buy it now for 500(listed starting bid at 450, but people never bid because it is easier to just buy), I woul search 300-350 bid price and bid on everything, this means I would either be bidding 300/350/400 depending on if there had been pervious bids(although I think I may not be bidding 400 haven't done it in a little). I would bid on literally everything until my transfer list was filled. I wouldn't win all of them but I would win about 30-50% depending on player and margin I was bidding on(better chance at winning a 350 then 300, better chance of winning at 350 when buy it now is goin to be 450, then when buy it now is going to be 500).

Futbin is a good place to see lowest but it now trends. I usually sell 1-2 increments above lowest buy it now(lowest is 1k I do 1100/1200, 450 I do 500/550).

Again you won't sell all of them but you should sell a decent amount every time.

At these prices you are clearing like 50-100 per item after taxes which adds up pretty quickly when you fill out your transfer list.

I have gotten people that sell for 550 for 300 bidding(although it sells at 550 like 25% of time)

This can get you a couple thousand per cycle and depending on the amount of time you have to do so ou can easily make 15k in a day.

Make a lot of money trading is more nuanced
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10-07-2014 , 11:29 AM
Yeah I figured I sucked I guess I don't have the time or the patience for it, but I'll keep trying, Happy with my team at the moment so i can just keep grinding the game and do some trading.
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10-07-2014 , 11:30 AM
extremely slow/ineffective way to trade
just BIN certain players for 1kish and resell for 2k+, you restock your trade pile within seconds and therefore don't have to invest a lot of time
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10-07-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cashy
extremely slow/ineffective way to trade
just BIN certain players for 1kish and resell for 2k+, you restock your trade pile within seconds and therefore don't have to invest a lot of time
I assume you mean price fixing which is a lot more effort/time then you are letting on. Unless you actually know of somebody that sells for 2k you also has bin for 1k, if you do then hook me up. Mass bidding is easily the most efficient way and is not that time consuming considering you can make 15% on your money. Takes like 5 minutes to bid, 5 minutes to list, and a second to relist all.

Let's assume it takes 5 seconds to bid(which is an overstatement). You mad bid on 50 because a that's your transfer list. That's like 4 min. You win 20 of the 50. You list these 20 at 5 seconds a piece so like 2 minutes conservative. That's like 6-7 min of work for ~1.5k.

Doin that between games and you can play while the auctions are counting down. So it's really only the time commitment that it takes to bid and list.
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10-07-2014 , 11:46 AM
no not price fixing
just buy players for 1k and sell on for 2k+, 20k+/day guaranteed with the right/popular players, time investment like 1 min/day
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10-07-2014 , 11:52 AM
or you could do IF-trading, basically buy the discard IFs and list for ~16k, about 5k profit per sale. atm i have 10x Reid, 10x Milner, 10x Aogo and 4x Donovan in my trade pile. all you need to do is to relist.

You could do the same with silver players. had a ****** buying 2 of my Hoiletts for 15k when his lowest BIN was like 4k lol
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10-07-2014 , 11:52 AM
Again I'm not sure what players meet that criteria seeing as your basically hoping that not only people don't research(common with all scenarios), but you also are hoping that a cheaper option isn't readily available which should almost always be the case. Sure ou could probably sell a couple a day that way but it then you just have clutter in transfer list.

Unless I am severely underestimating the stupidity of buyers. I mean I sometimes struggle to sell going from 500->550, I can't imagine the struggle from 1k->2k, even with super popular players.
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10-07-2014 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FishNChips1
or you could do IF-trading, basically buy the discard IFs and list for ~16k, about 5k profit per sale. atm i have 10x Reid, 10x Milner, 10x Aogo and 4x Donovan in my trade pile. all you need to do is to relist.

You could do the same with silver players. had a ****** buying 2 of my Hoiletts for 15k when his lowest BIN was like 4k lol
Ya obviously stuff like this is the way toto once you have a br I was referring to starting trading since he mentioned saving up 15k. IFs always go up in value once they are out of packs.
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10-07-2014 , 11:57 AM
oh gotcha. the way i got my roll was to buy the 4+ all injuries healing cards for 1k and sell for 1.5k. doesnt work aswell anymore though, trying to sell for 1.4k BIN and i get way less sales/h than i did before
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10-07-2014 , 12:00 PM
I found a lot of value in position changes as people tend to want to get them right away when they need them so they rarely bid. I was getting cdm>>cm for 1-1.1k and unloading for 1.5k fairly easily.

Also I don't know f this is really feasible but some of the kits have huge margins(I think) but are hard to search for. The lowest bin for te cd lugo 3rd kit I have seen is 2300 but have seen people win it at like 600-1k(me including since it's a sick ****ing kit). I haven't tried to sell but I imagine there is some money to be made it's just impossible to search just for that and only has like 15 kits listed at a time so ou would need ldo it with a lot of them. There is a couple guys mass listing though.

There's some Russian team with like a yellow/red camo kit that ones for 6-7k bin(again I don't know if it's selling at this price).
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10-07-2014 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Again I'm not sure what players meet that criteria seeing as your basically hoping that not only people don't research(common with all scenarios), but you also are hoping that a cheaper option isn't readily available which should almost always be the case. Sure ou could probably sell a couple a day that way but it then you just have clutter in transfer list.

Unless I am severely underestimating the stupidity of buyers. I mean I sometimes struggle to sell going from 500->550, I can't imagine the struggle from 1k->2k, even with super popular players.
not sure why you aren't taking my advice, i don't care go ahead and continue to waste your time
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10-07-2014 , 12:45 PM
Lol wut.

Because you haven't explained ****. There are sites dedicated to this thing and not one f them lists your strategy but you speak it like gospel.

Everyone who does low trading talks about margins like 10-25% and you sit here saying just double your investment and count money
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10-07-2014 , 12:45 PM
Hey guys I found a new way to make money. Buy silver players for 200 and sell them all for 10k +. Thanks

Easy 1mil a day.
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10-07-2014 , 12:46 PM
custer obviously you just wait for people to pay double what they could for cards
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10-07-2014 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Lol wut.

Because you haven't explained ****. There are sites dedicated to this thing and not one f them lists your strategy but you speak it like gospel.
take it or leave it donk

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
custer obviously you just wait for people to pay double what they could for cards
ye there obvious is no magic strategy behind it
a huge amount of people just browse the last seconds of the window and see a player like lamela for 2k and think it's a good deal and snap it up

Last edited by cashy; 10-07-2014 at 12:51 PM.
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10-07-2014 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
custer obviously you just wait for people to pay double what they could for cards
Ya but I don't see this being an easy 20k a day. Like I said. There's no doubt yu could get some people buying at 2x markup, but it's not newel as efficient in terms of roll growth as mass listing at a reasonable price. So he is clearly wrong in that regard, if you look at ev per time in transfer list. Sure it's les investment but if you are in a position where funds are limited and trading is important to getting a better team you are going to be waiting days to get something that could be achieved in less than one by mass bidding.
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10-07-2014 , 12:54 PM
dude i have been doing it for years
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10-07-2014 , 12:55 PM
If you list 50 people at 2x lowest bin how many do you expect to sell in the hour window Cashy?
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10-07-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
If you list 50 people at 2x lowest bin how many do you expect to sell in the hour window Cashy?
it fluctuates heavily depending on happy hour, IFs, time etc etc

never listed more than 30 players at a time(I had a bug in Fifa14 making it impossible to extent my trade pile)
I have had days of selling 10 players each hour, but also days of only selling like 5 players the whole day
on average 3-4 players in the hour is realistic

had two accounts in fifa13(= 60 player trade pile) and got a 2mil+ messi team fairly quickly
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10-07-2014 , 01:27 PM
Yeh basically pick popular cheap players, so for instance on 360 atm you can get distin for 1k-1100 fair easy and sell for 1800-1900.

Game is just unplayable at peak times on 360 it seems, last time i put my xbox in dmz and thought it fixed the lag although now im thinking it was because when i tried this it wasn't peak hours as i just tried playing and 3 matches in a row were all terrible lag.

It also changed my settings mid game, i play alternate (pes buttons) and literally mid game it swapped to classic and changed manual switching to auto (back to default basically) and after match kept telling me i needed to be logged into fifa account or some other random error.
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10-07-2014 , 01:37 PM
I was doing the Ccuster way of trading buying players under 2k and selling netting about 100ish coin profit and they sold about 10mins once on the market. But it sucks at times when you win zero of them.

Cashy you just leaving players on open bids to make it seem like a good deal? For example, Sandro BIN 2k would you list him at 2600 bidding with no BIN or do you list him with a BIN?
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10-07-2014 , 04:12 PM
always bin

also if you want to invest some more time, for example with a player with lowest BIN 1000, search trough all BINs from 1000-1400 for players with 40+ contracts and sell on for 2800+
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10-07-2014 , 07:11 PM
club > ut

ainec
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10-07-2014 , 07:37 PM
don't have the game yet but will club a lot when i do!
arsene wengerli time baby
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10-07-2014 , 07:55 PM
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