Good call. I went back and visited the guys staying at my school for the summer and unfortunately wasn't able to evade getting iced any longer...hell of a time though, made me decide to move back up there for the summer too, home sucks when all your good friends from hs are in NYC for finance internships. Might TR last night for critique later, we'll see.

taylor caby forsure reads this thread. he just said "mackin' da fly honeyz" on a countingzero cardrunners vid

hahahahahahahahahahaha thats awesome

im here to take credit. ty taylor. free sub now plz. thx.

GG you know i read that right

by that i mean your deletion note and what you deleted

sorry i couldnt resist. i normally wouldnt but after that little message i had to look.

idc if u read it lol. just figured i was taking the thread way off topic with the post and the topic it was on was something that life tilts me obv

i leave mod notes all the time they rarely ever get acknowledged so ty

wait you guys didnt use mackin da fly honeys prior to this thread?

i did lol thus making the title

Continuing to spin my wheels. In a text convo with the same girl I've been referencing, the following exchange happens:
Me: I don't even know if you like <band>, but they put on a killer show and they're playing in <nearby big city> on Saturday the 5th. Interested?
Her: Aw that sounds great but that's the night my best friend is getting married!
(AAAAAAAHHHHH!!! She mentioned months ago that she had to be in three weddings this summer, I didn't realize how actively they'd get in my way though. She's almost certainly giving legit excuses in any case though.)
Me: Damn, tell your friends to stop getting married! So far we're only in the same city this summer in theory.
Her: I know, I'm sorry. I prob won't be here for a weekend til July...how sad is that?
Me: Too bad, but we can make some weeknights work. This week is booked as my best friend from back home is coming visiting tomorrow, but next week we should hang out.
Her: Okay, sounds good. Have fun with your friend!

I mean, on the surface it seems like she's just repeatedly deflecting me, but I honestly think that she's just managing to be this busy once the summer gets going. I know she's hitting up Italy in mid-June, so that's another reason why weekends are getting killed. I dunno. This many deflections gets discouraging, but I don't see any actual stop signs, so I'll shoot her a text on Sunday after my friend leaves town and set something up for next week (preferably something new, not racquetball).

"Hey, let's do this?"

"No."

"Hey, let's do this?"

"No."

"Hey, let's do this?"

"No."

"Hey, let's do this?"

"No."



Legit excuses or not I get the vibe this girl isn't into you. Has she ever initiated anything with you at all in the months you've known her?

agree 100%

Great question should sum up her interest in you

Yeah, she has. Couple of times. It was before the finals period got underway and everything got hectic for all of us.

I know how it looks on the surface, and you may well be right. But things like friend's weddings are legitimately happening, and are obviously real excuses. Things like law school finals take us all out of any real social life for several weeks. Same for law review write-on. Her in-person behavior when she sees me isn't consistent with a disinterested girl, I let her seek me out and she always does so...and when she does, the vibe isn't platonic like it is with certain other girls I've described. My friends have commented to me without knowing that I'm interested in her about how clearly into me she seems to be, so they could certainly be wrong, but I'm not just delusional in seeing a vibe.

I don't see it as an uber-hopeful situation mind you, given all of these deflections, but I don't see a lot of reason not to see it through at this point. I'm not terribly attached on this front, so I don't really have much to lose by giving it another shot.

EDIT: Just to add on some more context when I talk about vibe, she's really physically affectionate with me, and not just hugging and stuff, things like grinding into me pretty hard on the dance floor and what not. In person, she really doesn't treat me like someone she has no attraction to. But yeah my lack of ability to get anything going with her lately is discouraging. I still don't think I should fully give up yet though.

and fyi grinding hard on the dance floor isnt necessarily a sign of attraction....its fairly standard for most girls in that atmosphere....

God damn't.

LKJ has managed to play racquetball a couple times with her. So sometimes she says yes. Lets see if LKJ can pull of an actual date activity with her on a weekday. If she keeps saying no to that, you may be in the friendzone.

i cant remember ever grinding with a girl that i was willing to hook up with and not closing the deal... i mean once you get her dancing its ez game from there.

You guys all just reminded me of why I don't post here anymore. See ya.

Haha, just kidding. I know what you're saying. I'm far from basing it all on that though, that was just one thing. It may be meaningless, but it may not be. Who knows.

I think I'm making a reasonable assessment of the situation. Doesn't look too sunny at the moment but I just don't see it as hopeless either. I'm going to see it through a little longer. If something happens, great. If not, so be it. Not a huge deal. This non-update wasn't anything too interesting to bump the thread with, but I figured I'd add what content I could from my own end since the thread is a little dead lately.

E situation has taken a turn for the worst.

Yeah we've played like four or five times. She also invited me out to the bar a couple of times, once just to say that a group was out and I should come, another when she was just inviting me and her friend and her friend's boyfriend. At one point she asked the friend (with regard to the boyfriend) if his facial hair hurts her. Girl said no. Then she looked at me and said she thought mine might hurt her (I generally have some stubble going). I said I thought she'd be alright, she actually then felt my face and agreed that she'd be alright, the whole scenario had the feel of a double date early on. Then another dude showed up and I couldn't for the life of me figure whether she invited him or not, but he glommed onto the group and never let me isolate after that point. Friend of hers, but was definitely not getting anywhere with her even though I think he was trying.

You'd think, wouldn't you? But I'm LKJ, and sometimes I snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We spent a good couple of hours together, mostly dancing and then going to the bar to get drinks together, but this was at a super packed venue, I lost her when she went to the bathroom, then was so drunk that I couldn't find the energy to try to track her down...and instead just quickly gave up and went home, telling myself I'd close that deal later. Fast forward a couple of months and here we are...

****, I'm sorry man. What's the update?

wtf? when you are dancing are you ever putting your face close to hers? holding hands? general escalation of closeness?

ohhh karak pwwweaaaaseeee tell us!! wait, il_m made this post?

this...if you are not getting very close to just ****ing on the dance floor you are doing something wrong.....I suggest a beginners tip of pooling on her shirt a little tight when your hand on on her side, it reminds her that you are in control and is a turn on for a lot of girls(reminds them of pooling on hair i guess i dont even know, its just a little rough and a lot of girls like it)....Whatever you do when dancing keep reminding her that you are in control(change rhythm and ****).....than just keep escalating