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05-02-2013 , 12:17 AM
no idea
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05-02-2013 , 04:50 AM
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looking for higher res, any good shops where they have at least some variety?
It will be very difficult(maybe impossible) to find a shop that has anything over a 24" and anything better than 1920x1080.
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05-02-2013 , 10:09 AM
meh GG me, prob just gonna keep using my USB monitor if thats the case
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05-03-2013 , 07:20 AM
There are 27" Dells with 2560 on Mercado libre,, but they are not cheap
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05-06-2013 , 08:27 PM
any of you guys playing live over here from time to time? maybe we can get a weekly home game going or something. anyway thx for all the help ive received so far, really appreciate that.
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05-08-2013 , 07:29 PM
Want to Sell Dell 15z laptop. 256 SSD, 8GB Ram, Intel i7. Has HDMI and Mini displayport [cable of running monitors at 2560 resolution]. Perfect for poker, with the SSD and resolution. Running perfectly, was recently serviced [tech guy cleaned insides etc for dust and so on] and was also recently formatted and Windows 7 reinstalled.
About 18 months old, originally cost 1700 Euros, Make an offer if interested

Also want to sell Dell 3008WFP monitor. About 2 1/2 years old. Has worked perfectly. Not sure if there are any dead pixels, but definitely nothing major. Comes with Minidisplayport-Displayport cable [perfect for use with laptop above]
These monitors are basically impossible to get in Argentina, there are 0 listed on Mercado libre. Will only sell if I get a good offer, my replacement cost back in Europe is around £700 / $1100

Payment on Stars, Skrill ideal

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05-09-2013 , 10:43 AM
ambito.com/economia/mercados/monedas/dolar
Black market peso rate now at 10.4. That is almost 100% inflation over a year ago! Are merchants just constantly jacking up their prices? Is this a hot conversation topic there? RiverPlay said a while ago that inflation was about 120% since 2007, and I think this is why the media keeps repeating that inflation is 25% per year when it is really closer to 100% now.
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05-09-2013 , 02:09 PM
You are conflating the exchange rate with inflation. They are not the same thing though they are related. It is tough to say exactly what inflation is because the government lies about it. 25-30% annually seems to be a reasonable estimate. It clearly is not the 9% that the government claims, but it also is not 100%....although you never know if it will be in the future.

Prices in stores do go up frequently, although your question seems to blame the merchants when it is 100% the fault of payasa-en-jefa Cristina Kirchner.
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05-09-2013 , 02:56 PM
there is a sweet jesus theme park in BA:

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemil...us-theme-park/
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05-09-2013 , 03:00 PM
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ambito.com/economia/mercados/monedas/dolar
Black market peso rate now at 10.4. That is almost 100% inflation over a year ago! Are merchants just constantly jacking up their prices? Is this a hot conversation topic there? RiverPlay said a while ago that inflation was about 120% since 2007, and I think this is why the media keeps repeating that inflation is 25% per year when it is really closer to 100% now.
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You are conflating the exchange rate with inflation. They are not the same thing though they are related. It is tough to say exactly what inflation is because the government lies about it. 25-30% annually seems to be a reasonable estimate. It clearly is not the 9% that the government claims, but it also is not 100%....although you never know if it will be in the future.

Prices in stores do go up frequently, although your question seems to blame the merchants when it is 100% the fault of payasa-en-jefa Cristina Kirchner.
You are right; I was confusing the exchange rate with inflation. So is it correct to say then, that while pesos are worth half as much on the black market as they were a year ago, that prices in Buenos Aires have not risen by 100%, but only by 25-30%? Does this mean that the purchasing power of poker players earning money in dollars (and converting at the black market rate) has gone up by some 70-75%?

I did not mean to insinuate that merchants were to blame for inflation. I was just wondering how close it was to Zimbabwe-style inflation where prices were raised multiple times per day. I like that phrase "clown as boss" or however that translates Looks like her popularity has dropped in half since she was reelected.

For all this talk about Argentina being an economic basket case, I don't see how anyone can be too critical of government policy when the country has the highest standard of living and per-capita GDP in South America, and has real economic growth over 8% for the last decade, while the rest of the world was sitting in recession. People hate prices going up, but is **** really hitting the fan?

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05-09-2013 , 03:49 PM
Yeah, I was going for "clown-in-chief" with payasa-en-jefe. People here laugh when I say it.

The idea that Argentina is a well managed country under the Kirchners (or previous presidents) is prima facie so ridiculous that it is tough to respond to.
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05-09-2013 , 03:51 PM
And no, prices dont change here daily. But weekly? That is not too far off. And my in-laws have lived through times when prices were double in the afternoon what they were in the morning.
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05-09-2013 , 06:06 PM
The reason why the decline of the peso is more linear with inflation is because importers are buying dollars at the official exchange rate. If they bought at the price everyone else does prices would raise faster.
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05-09-2013 , 10:44 PM
EDIT: I actually wanted to say "The reason why the decline of the peso is NOT more linear with inflation..."
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05-09-2013 , 11:51 PM
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For all this talk about Argentina being an economic basket case, I don't see how anyone can be too critical of government policy when the country has the highest standard of living and per-capita GDP in South America, and has real economic growth over 8% for the last decade, while the rest of the world was sitting in recession. People hate prices going up, but is **** really hitting the fan?
Everything Cristina does is to maintain the status quo with no regard for the long-term consequences, and in spite of that Argentina has been passed recently by its neighboring countries in quality of life indices and GDP per capita. The long-term consequences are piling up, everyone can see that this house of cards is about to fall apart, and that's why the black market exchange rate has surged this year.

It's easy to be critical of "successful" economic policy when that success required the raiding of people's savings accounts, stealing a private business without compensation, effectively banning legal international travel by prohibiting currency transactions, neglecting the power grid to the point that blackouts occur nonstop throughout the entire summer (as well as neglecting other existing infrastructure), charging ridiculous tariffs on imported electronics when the domestic products are of terrible quality, implementing price controls which screw over farmers/producers of goods, etc. The lack of economic freedom in the country is appalling, and that has a very tangible effect on people's lives which is not revealed by simple statistics
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05-17-2013 , 04:18 AM
Looking to move here in September. Is it possible to open a bank account or do you really have to bring cash or exchange Stars/Moneybookers on the black market?
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05-17-2013 , 04:36 AM
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Looking to move here in September. Is it possible to open a bank account or do you really have to bring cash or exchange Stars/Moneybookers on the black market?
You want/need to open a bank account so that you can get Skrill up and running. They require a bank account in the country your registered in, so you need the account to exist - not to use it. PM me if you need help with this and I can advise.

You want/need to bring USD so you can exchange them at 10-1 instead of 5-1 (official rate). Bring as much as you can, as you'll need to pay your rent in USD most likely.
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05-17-2013 , 04:57 PM
just saw the blue dollar is down from 10 to 9, is it expected to keep going down or swing back up (say, in the next 2-3 months)?

if this is impossible to answer, hunches or slightly educated opinions are welcome
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05-17-2013 , 11:34 PM
It's probably just a simple correction after the price ran up from barely 8 to 10.4 in the course of about 4 weeks. In the long run it will continue to go up but making specific predictions would require having a lot of information that is impossible to know.

The long-term value of a peso is 0. If you make every financial decision with that in mind, it will be tough to make any big mistakes.
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05-21-2013 , 03:52 PM
Anyone want to do a 2p2 lunch at Sudestada this Thursday or Friday? Let me know.
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06-23-2013 , 06:19 AM
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Everything Cristina does is to maintain the status quo with no regard for the long-term consequences, and in spite of that Argentina has been passed recently by its neighboring countries in quality of life indices and GDP per capita. The long-term consequences are piling up, everyone can see that this house of cards is about to fall apart, and that's why the black market exchange rate has surged this year.

It's easy to be critical of "successful" economic policy when that success required the raiding of people's savings accounts, stealing a private business without compensation, effectively banning legal international travel by prohibiting currency transactions, neglecting the power grid to the point that blackouts occur nonstop throughout the entire summer (as well as neglecting other existing infrastructure), charging ridiculous tariffs on imported electronics when the domestic products are of terrible quality, implementing price controls which screw over farmers/producers of goods, etc. The lack of economic freedom in the country is appalling, and that has a very tangible effect on people's lives which is not revealed by simple statistics
The ones that complain about the dollars blue are the one that cannot anymore make money laundering as they used to...
Look at what was Argentina en 2001, en now en 2013. I don't say that the Kirschner's did all great, but we have to asume that they made a spectacular recovery.
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06-23-2013 , 12:54 PM
I didn't argue that there hasn't been great economic growth in the past decade. Only that such growth has been partially a result of economic policies which are not sustainable in the long term and which have hurt people's lives in both measurable and immeasurable ways.

Many South American and Asian countries have been experiencing great economic growth recently. There is no reason to believe that Argentina's success has been because of its economic policies. It's possible that Argentina's economic situation right now would be even better if it had been under different leadership.
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06-23-2013 , 02:49 PM
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The ones that complain about the dollars blue are the one that cannot anymore make money laundering as they used to...
Look at what was Argentina en 2001, en now en 2013. I don't say that the Kirschner's did all great, but we have to asume that they made a spectacular recovery.
It's more like how Argentina was in 2003 (with 7% GDP growth) when they started and how it is now, and it's been a spectacular decline. 2003 was nothing like 2001.
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06-28-2013 , 07:22 PM
Looking to sell my Dell 30" (3007 WFP) for $750 USD. If you have a Macbook I'll also throw in the dual link DVI adapter fo' free.

PM me if interested.
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07-24-2013 , 02:29 PM
is there a yelp or some sort of equivalent for BsAs/Argentina?
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