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Old 01-09-2013, 12:12 AM   #3476
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And I believe it has a name but it's in Korean writing.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:08 PM   #3477
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The name is Mido. It's at Carabobo 1575. There is always the knock-off version in Barrio Chino called BBQ Town if you aren't down for the long trip to Bajo Flores.

Also, to add to the resto list:

Italian - Doppio Zero

Sort of Cal/French - Las Pizarras

Chinese - Hong Kong Style (try the hot and sour soup. it's ****ing awesome)

Lunch/brunch - Oui Oui, Hernan Gipponi, Cusic

Peruvian - Primavera Trujillana...or just head to somewhere in Abasto

I find these blogs to be pretty good for restos:
http://pickupthefork.com/
http://thelostasian.com/
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:01 PM   #3478
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Funky/cool fish place outside of town. Good vibe, good food, off the beaten path...not that cheap, but for fish, not a good town to skimp..

http://www.felixclasico.com/
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:28 AM   #3479
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anyone know of someone who will trade stars money for pesos on a semiconsistent basis for a halfway decent rate? trying to avoid having to use the atm every month
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:48 AM   #3480
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Also, I'm arriving on friday and know pretty much no one living in Bs As, so anyone that wants to get together and show me what's what, I would much appreciate it. I also speak absolutely no spanish (lol)
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:15 PM   #3481
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Wow the exchange rate is up to 8! It jumped by over 25% in 2 months. What is going on? Makes me want to move there to sell some bitcoins....
http://www.ambito.com/economia/mercados/monedas/dolar/

Argentine Stocks, Bonds Up as Peso Tumbles on Black Market:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-714108.html

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Old 02-05-2013, 07:11 AM   #3482
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Hi all,
Lived in Argentina in 2005 for a year, and I never found anywhere to play live. Going back there on Friday for a month and would love to know if there are any cardrooms in the city now. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:52 PM   #3483
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Casino puerto madero (the boat) 1kAr$ NL
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Rake 5% no cap

I think sometimes they also spread 2KNL
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:32 PM   #3484
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Who is in Buenos Aires at the moment?

Let's meet up - drink beer, get girls, PARTY
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:25 PM   #3485
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Hey!

someone who could help me or know someone who could help me get some of that green stuff here? dont care if its either 1j or 5g, would be happy for everything!
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:00 PM   #3486
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Who is in Buenos Aires at the moment?

Let's meet up - drink beer, get girls, PARTY
how long you here for?
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:41 PM   #3487
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Hi all,

Does someone from the U.S. with a student visa still have to pay the "reciprocity fee" or is it just for tourism/business?
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:53 PM   #3488
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Can't edit anymore but another q...the peso keeps tanking but I keep seeing articles talking about how foreign travel is getting more expensive in Argentina, I don't get it can someone explain to my small brain how this can be, and is it still getting more expensive if you get the better blackmarket prices I keep reading about? thanks
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:48 AM   #3489
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have absolutely no clue, but my random guess would be that prices would be falling if your money is not in pesos and can convert it as needed at black market rates. most tourists will not be getting black market rates, and with a controlled currency, those who make their money in pesos or convert at the controlled rate will experience a more expensive BA. with rising prices for locals, a lot of prices will have to come down as their wages won't be able to keep up so demand will decrease. again, just my guess and either way, if you actually are able to comfortably get pesos at the real exchange rate, i doubt rising costs will be the big problem it is for others.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:53 PM   #3490
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Can't edit anymore but another q...the peso keeps tanking but I keep seeing articles talking about how foreign travel is getting more expensive in Argentina, I don't get it can someone explain to my small brain how this can be, and is it still getting more expensive if you get the better blackmarket prices I keep reading about? thanks
I'd have to see the articles but whose foreign travel are they talking about???? The Argentines or foreigners coming here?

Foreign travel for Argentines is really difficult. No one has been able to buy dollars at the official rate (5 pesos) for travel outside of Argentina for months now. People have to buy dollars now at 7.7. To my memory, a year and a half ago it was about 4.4.

For foreign travelers that are coming here; yes it is more difficult. Perhaps the articles are talking about tourists receiving pesos at the official rate which stays around 5 and doesn't move with inflation.

I don't really see the informal market as a blessing. The blue dollar more or less keeps up with inflation; so nothing really appears as being a discount or cheap if you are selling your dollars at that price. It only appears as a rip-off if you are selling dollars at the official rate. If you want to use an out of country credit card, your money gets converted at the official rate and you get robbed for 40%. You are in effect forced to pay cash for everything. It can be a pain.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:04 PM   #3491
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It's for foreigners coming to Argentina, here's an example:

http://en.mercopress.com/2012/06/09/...reign-tourists

So for US person who has no issue with bringing in USD and paying for everything in cash and getting blackmarket rates, has the purchasing power gotten worse/better/stayed the same in the past few years?
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:19 PM   #3492
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In my opinion, the purchasing power in that case has gotten a little worse over the past few years. Not awful but a little worse. Another issue is that due to other economic restrictions, you sometimes can't get what you want. Certain imports are impossible to find and often products made here that depend on imported products can have complications in being obtained.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:43 PM   #3493
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I'm reading that link and I have a few problems with it.

"The number of Argentine travelling overseas is soaring..." beyond just the grammatical and spelling errors, I'm not so sure about this. I don't have statistics and I'm not going to go out of my way to refute this but I personally don't see this phenomenon happening. I do see A LOT more Argentines from all classes traveling. They just do it within the country.

"Inflation, even high, has not been enough to counter the appreciation of the Argentine Peso."

I don't understand this at all. Against what metric has the peso appreciated? Officially, yes it is overvalued. However it has never appreciated in the time I've been here. Do I have my terms wrong?

""“For foreign tourists domestic flights are expensive. For example a full ticket London-Buenos Aires-London is cheaper than flying from Buenos Aires to Ushuaia, El Calafate or Iguazú. This is discouraging for foreign tourists”, said Lielman."

No.... no no no. I just looked into going to Calafate with my girlfriend over the last weekend (Carnaval and peak prices). It was ridiculously expensive, around $750 for me. However, can you find flights from London to Buenos Aires and back for less than $1300? They guy is talking out of his ass.



"And while it has become tighter for Europeans it has become more attractive for Argentines to travel overseas given the cheaper US dollar and more accessible prices. "

Except that no Argentine is able to buy dollars at the official rate and use it to travel cheaply out of the country.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:43 PM   #3494
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"Inflation, even high, has not been enough to counter the appreciation of the Argentine Peso."

I don't understand this at all. Against what metric has the peso appreciated? Officially, yes it is overvalued. However it has never appreciated in the time I've been here. Do I have my terms wrong?
That was exactly my reaction and what confused me most about the article, so I just posted figuring if I was missing something somebody would point it out. Thanks for your replies.

Anyone know if the entrance fee applies to student visas?
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #3495
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I'm reading that link and I have a few problems with it.

"The number of Argentine travelling overseas is soaring..." beyond just the grammatical and spelling errors, I'm not so sure about this. I don't have statistics and I'm not going to go out of my way to refute this but I personally don't see this phenomenon happening. I do see A LOT more Argentines from all classes traveling. They just do it within the country.
I think it's most likely true. We have such an increased cost of living here that traveling abroad is not that much expensive, sometimes it's even cheaper.
If an Argentine travels abroad and uses his credit card, he is getting dollars at 5,5Ar$, so people are obviosly taking advantage of a subsidised tourist exchange rate, not to mention that he also gets the chance to ask for cash at 4,9AR$ (not much but they will give them about 2K max, lol) and then just save them and only use his CC when travelling.

On the other hand it really sucks for foreigners to come here and use their CC, because they are losing a lot compared to a "blue" exchange rate and selling currency in the black market it is not for everyone, specially the ones coming for their first time.


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"Inflation, even high, has not been enough to counter the appreciation of the Argentine Peso."

I don't understand this at all. Against what metric has the peso appreciated? Officially, yes it is overvalued. However it has never appreciated in the time I've been here. Do I have my terms wrong?Argentines from all classes traveling. They just do it within the country.
It has only appreciated agains zimbabwean dollars or Bolivares, not even sure about Cubans, lol.

The guy clearly doesn't understand the subject because that sentence makes not sense at all. What happened here is that we have an accumulated inflation of about 120% since 2007 and the dollar has only risen 40%, so the country became more expensive in dollars or another "hard" currency.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #3496
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Can't edit anymore but another q...the peso keeps tanking but I keep seeing articles talking about how foreign travel is getting more expensive in Argentina, I don't get it can someone explain to my small brain how this can be, and is it still getting more expensive if you get the better blackmarket prices I keep reading about? thanks
The real exchange rate (the one you can actually buy currency at) is tanking, but the official exchange rate is going much slower so there is a 50% gap over a year.

So in "blue" dollars it is deff cheaper bcz inflation is "just" at 25%, but if you come with your credit/debit card you are getting ripped off terribly.

I guess that's what they call an "appreciation" of the official peso.
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:40 AM   #3497
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:37 PM   #3498
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im gonna move to buenos aires for a year in april and am looking for ways to get pokerdollars converted into pesos. im probably gonna be in montevideo every now and then, what are the limits in uruguay for neteller and moneybookers cards? atm limits for european credit cards?

are there any people buying stars $ for pesos? i heard in brazil its easy to sell lots of stars $ for reais. are there any trusted money changers who can accept moneybookers wires?
ive pmed some people who posted on that subject, but if anyone got more info/options for me id be very thankful.

also would be glad to hang out with some 2p2ers who know the city a bit. were 2 22 year old guys, speak good english and i would say are good company. and uhmmm any banana lovers down there IYKWIM?
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:59 PM   #3499
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im gonna move to buenos aires for a year in april and am looking for ways to get pokerdollars converted into pesos. im probably gonna be in montevideo every now and then, what are the limits in uruguay for neteller and moneybookers cards? atm limits for european credit cards?
I believe that all atms in Uruguay have a $300 USD limit per transaction. That means you can take out up to whatever your ATM/neteller/moneybookers card limit is, $300 at a time. This is my experience and I haven't seen ATMs that do more.


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are there any people buying stars $ for pesos? i heard in brazil its easy to sell lots of stars $ for reais. are there any trusted money changers who can accept moneybookers wires?
ive pmed some people who posted on that subject, but if anyone got more info/options for me id be very thankful.
I believe there is a stars guy for pesos. I've never worked with him as I don't have much of a stars roll. If anyone ever finds someone who does it with Moneybookers; I would be very interested in that information as well.
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:36 AM   #3500
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im gonna move to buenos aires for a year in april and am looking for ways to get pokerdollars converted into pesos. im probably gonna be in montevideo every now and then, what are the limits in uruguay for neteller and moneybookers cards? atm limits for european credit cards?

are there any people buying stars $ for pesos? i heard in brazil its easy to sell lots of stars $ for reais. are there any trusted money changers who can accept moneybookers wires?
ive pmed some people who posted on that subject, but if anyone got more info/options for me id be very thankful.

also would be glad to hang out with some 2p2ers who know the city a bit. were 2 22 year old guys, speak good english and i would say are good company. and uhmmm any banana lovers down there IYKWIM?
If you come with cash and know someone who will give you the blue exchange rate, it is veeeeery cheap to live here compared to the other places I've been. If you want to come, just bring U.S. cash (hundreds only, no twenties etc.) get it converted at the black market rate and you're golden. There are also people that will take stars transfers and give you almost the black market rate, which is waaaay better than the "official rate".
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