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Old 06-24-2012, 04:48 PM   #3426
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Can you sell poker money there at a big markup?
There is a good system for cashing out here,but they ll chargue you a small fee% aniways,still very good deal as u can cash out huge in cash,and in dollars,pm me if u want more details.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #3427
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How's basketball down there? Anyone found good places to play pick up? Also, has anyone looked into taking a class or two at the university there?
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:57 PM   #3428
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anyone know a better way to get money off of a debit card other than an atm machine? specifically the neteller debit card.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:03 AM   #3429
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anyone know a better way to get money off of a debit card other than an atm machine? specifically the neteller debit card.
No and the way the system works I'm pretty sure there isn't. A few posts up Robert Fripp mentions that he knows a way to cash out. Maybe neteller back to poker site then via his method. I know nothing about it though.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:16 PM   #3430
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www.xoom.com

Has anyone used this to get pesos? They offer an exchange rate of about 6 to 1, minus fees. I was told by a tourist that you just go to an ATM to collect your pesos, but the information on their website makes it sound more complicated.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:10 PM   #3431
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www.xoom.com

Has anyone used this to get pesos? They offer an exchange rate of about 6 to 1, minus fees. I was told by a tourist that you just go to an ATM to collect your pesos, but the information on their website makes it sound more complicated.
I just tried to use this for the first time for almost 2k. A few hours later my transaction was cancelled. Upon calling them I was told that due to privacy laws that they cannot give me any information about why it was cancelled. They also became immediately upset with me and told me I need to use a different service. I have no clue what this was all about. Had they asked for any information I would have provided it but they essentially told me to **** off. Anyone have any ideas why this would be and if there is anything I can do about it?
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:22 PM   #3432
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Any different amount gets me insta-denied
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:05 PM   #3433
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Even $25 gets me insta-denied.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:06 AM   #3434
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I got a lot of help from this forum when I was getting settled down here, so here's a small gift back:

Xoom doesn't offer the best (or usually close) to the best rates - it only did for a brief period a few months ago. In addition, it's a pain in the ass as CW has attested to to have to go and pick up the money, and that's assuming it actually works - which apparently it doesn't. If someone reputable (who knows someone I know, or who I know etc - no randoms) wants me to set them up with a guy down here who has been doing this for years with all my friends (and me for the last several months, consistently), shoot me a PM. We've been getting 6.25-1, coming to the house within an hour or so, no shenanigans etc. Probably closer to 6.5-1 would be considered good these days, but as this is super safe/secure/reliable/no fake money and no time wasted, I'll take it - and think you should consider it if you have USD and need Pesos.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:26 PM   #3435
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Is that that for exchanging cash, or for using credit card/bank transfer?
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:34 PM   #3436
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I've used it for cash. However, I'm 90% sure that wiring would be possible if it was a larger amount. PM me and I can get you the info to chat with him and let him tell you what's possible.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:15 PM   #3437
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I just tried to use this for the first time for almost 2k. A few hours later my transaction was cancelled. Upon calling them I was told that due to privacy laws that they cannot give me any information about why it was cancelled. They also became immediately upset with me and told me I need to use a different service. I have no clue what this was all about. Had they asked for any information I would have provided it but they essentially told me to **** off. Anyone have any ideas why this would be and if there is anything I can do about it?
i recently tried to send a money transfer with xoom (to mexico) which was cancelled. when i inquired, i was told that their website detected that i was connecting from mexico, and to protect against fraud they could not authorize the transfer to another person. to me, this makes sense, in that in many cases of fraud, the thief would be visiting the website from the destination country. they told me that i could send the transfer, but only to myself. were you hitting the xoom website from the destination country to make a transfer to someone other than yourself? if so, maybe your transfer was cancelled for the same reason...
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:41 PM   #3438
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i recently tried to send a money transfer with xoom (to mexico) which was cancelled. when i inquired, i was told that their website detected that i was connecting from mexico, and to protect against fraud they could not authorize the transfer to another person. to me, this makes sense, in that in many cases of fraud, the thief would be visiting the website from the destination country. they told me that i could send the transfer, but only to myself. were you hitting the xoom website from the destination country to make a transfer to someone other than yourself? if so, maybe your transfer was cancelled for the same reason...
I was sending money to myself from the destination country.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:29 AM   #3439
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I used xoom one time back in April, and it was a bit of a pain in the ass. They kept asking me for documents that were redundant, etc.. I finally got a manager on the phone and ripped him a new one and the money was available within about 5 minutes after our convo. I found the customer service to be horrendous and nobody seemed to know what was going on. That was a $2k transfer to myself in BA from my own account in the US using a US bank account and picking up at More Money Transfers). The manager wound up giving me a coupon code for a free transfer for the next time around, which I never wound up using.

Just yesterday, I returned back to BA from abroad and tried a $1k transfer using a US credit card (to myself in BA through More Money Transfers). I got almost instantaneous approval that my funds were available for pick up without any request for anything additional. I'm suspicious that it won't be so easy picking up my pesos at the MMT location on Libertad, but my fingers are crossed.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:56 AM   #3440
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I'm a US player hoping to relocate to BA. Is it possible to reopen my Stars account in Argentina or should I move to Canada for a month and get everything set up there?

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:29 PM   #3441
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I used xoom one time back in April, and it was a bit of a pain in the ass. They kept asking me for documents that were redundant, etc.. I finally got a manager on the phone and ripped him a new one and the money was available within about 5 minutes after our convo. I found the customer service to be horrendous and nobody seemed to know what was going on. That was a $2k transfer to myself in BA from my own account in the US using a US bank account and picking up at More Money Transfers). The manager wound up giving me a coupon code for a free transfer for the next time around, which I never wound up using.

Just yesterday, I returned back to BA from abroad and tried a $1k transfer using a US credit card (to myself in BA through More Money Transfers). I got almost instantaneous approval that my funds were available for pick up without any request for anything additional. I'm suspicious that it won't be so easy picking up my pesos at the MMT location on Libertad, but my fingers are crossed.
well... I guess it still works. Just they deny me as a customer. They won't even hypothetically tell me the reasons why a customer might be denied.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:55 PM   #3442
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I'm a US player hoping to relocate to BA. Is it possible to reopen my Stars account in Argentina or should I move to Canada for a month and get everything set up there?

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
As of last April you needed:

-A scanned document such as a passport or driver's license. Your US document will work.

- A service bill (i.e. utility bill) with your address in Argentina from the previous 3 month.

- A bank statement from your bank account in Argentina

- A phone where they can call you at in Argentina. They will call you and have a little phone interview.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:09 PM   #3443
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As of last April you needed:

-A scanned document such as a passport or driver's license. Your US document will work.

- A service bill (i.e. utility bill) with your address in Argentina from the previous 3 month.

- A bank statement from your bank account in Argentina

- A phone where they can call you at in Argentina. They will call you and have a little phone interview.
Right, but I thought it was essentially impossible to open a bank account there.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:02 AM   #3444
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You can open up a savings account with the national bank (Banco La Nacion), just not a checking account. At least 12 months ago that was the story.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:31 AM   #3445
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Right, but I thought it was essentially impossible to open a bank account there.
I don't know. I opened mine several years ago.

Earlier in the thread, I don't know where, there was a link to a thread in the BAExpats forum that was a how-to on opening a bank account here. I'd find that, see if it has been updated and if not ask there what the procedure is.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:28 PM   #3446
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http://seekingalpha.com/article/8734...-peso-and-argt

Seems pretty nuts down there according to this article. I'm assuming the poker community has thinned out. Anyone have interesting anecdotes?
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:47 PM   #3447
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I know there are problems here, and there has been a rise in basic street muggings for cell-phones (anecdotal but notable enough) but I will say that when I recently went to look for new apartments to move into with plenty of USD to pay 6-12 months in advance, the prices seemed to be insanely high - and I've been through it twice before here, have some perspective etc, so it's not like I was being TOTALLY taken for a ride. Basically my impression was that it didn't seem like the landlords were THAT desperate for dollars.

That said, Peso inflation is pretty insane - restaurants (I'm thinking of Kansas) change prices once every two weeks and such, and tables and tickets to clubs/shows and that kind of thing have gone through the roof. To be honest, most poker players are lucky and probably benefit strictly financially from the current situation if you ever go home and can bring dollars back. I don't think that the worsening situation for others, however, will make this a great place to be if the situation doesn't get any better.

As I posted above, I have a good connection I'm happy to share with reputable posters for dollar/peso transfers, and he can accept bank transfers in exchange for pesos so you wouldn't actually even need the cash down here. At least one other member who posts in this thread has used his services as well. PM me if you're interested with references/who you are/know etc. for obvious reasons.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:19 PM   #3448
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Pretty bad situation down here, it is not just about the dollar, all foreing currencies are pretty much impossible to buy legally, including gold. The province of Chaco is paying a dollar denominated bond in pesos at the official exchange rate.

From the govt they are talking about "pesification" of the economy in order to gain "monetary sovereignty", as lol as it sounds. Gendarmerie sallaries have been cut down 60% overnight last week which started a big conflict.

Massive protest are being schedulled for november 8th, and the govt claims it is just a conspiracy powered by the media, while lots of "educated" people says this is all about rich people protesting because they can't get USD to travell abroad. All this lunacy is happening after years of sustained economic growth with our agricultural exports at record highs, so just imagine what would happen during bad economic times.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:09 AM   #3449
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RiverPlay probably should've written "military" instead of national guard.

The Kirchners lucked into extremely favorable terms of trade. Instead of doing anything wise, they instituted a corrupt hybrid of socialism and populism. Basically, the Peronist model.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:11 PM   #3450
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Hi guys I have a soccer question please. If someone can help me out with answer I can send $20 on carbonpoker for help or review some hand histories at NLHE (I was high stakes player).

I want to know what division soccer in Argentina is comparable to in quality to the USL/PDL divisions in the USA? Does this league in Argentina follow same format of August-December, February-June? How many fans go to watch these games? What are typical player salaries? How do their passes work-specifically, are passes for this league open now or do they close and the teams cannot add new players until December? What is the soccer culture like-specifically, would these teams accept walk on tryouts or do do they need recommendations and soccer videos?

I know these are some pretty specific questions but it is basically impossible for me to find out unless I go to Buenos Aires or you help me so I really appreciate any help you can give me. If you are soccer player, or can ask a friend who is a soccer player, or even if you can call up soccer association and ask, as I said I can try to compensate for help. Thanks!!
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