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Other than Well Named, who else are we about to "permanently" ban? Other than Well Named, who else are we about to "permanently" ban?

07-03-2014 , 09:41 AM
So why did she get unbanned again?

It shouldn't matter that one has a select few vouching for a return and one doesn't
07-03-2014 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
It reads like a "squeaky wheel gets the grease" situation. She had people vouching for her and asking that she be allowed to return, and he didn't. FWIW I don't think she ban evaded either which is a better look in the lawyeryist sense.
Seems like she probably posted on omgwheelhouse or whatever her boyfriends account is during the initial banning. But even so, dude wouldn't have been allowed to play if he just wanted back in on his reg account. The only reason I've defended him is that he has a year of good behaivor
07-03-2014 , 09:48 AM
Better solution is to not perm ban at all

1 year for serious offenders

Months otherwise
07-03-2014 , 09:48 AM
there is no "reason" that crossnerd got unbanned in the sense of like some long deliberation. There was

a) an idea that people who want to post should be able to post unless there's a really good reason not to want them to post, not just in the past but now

b) a feeling that there wasn't really that great of a reason in the present re: crossnerd

then there was some modchat trolling and **** happened
07-03-2014 , 09:49 AM
This will become known as "Tom's Law"
07-03-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
It reads like a "squeaky wheel gets the grease" situation. She had people vouching for her and asking that she be allowed to return, and he didn't. FWIW I don't think she ban evaded either which is a better look in the lawyeryist sense.
Haven't she been posting on that VMF account for a long time now?
07-03-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurp Durpington
So why did she get unbanned again?

It shouldn't matter that one has a select few vouching for a return and one doesn't
Yes it should. Fairness has no place in the proceedings. A poster is either a net positive to the site, a net neutral, or a net negative. The last group can GTFO, without any regard to due process. The fewer supporters you have, the more likely you should be banned, and the more likely you should remain banned.

Not that I understand desperately wanting to rejoin a community that doesn't want you there anyway. Sounds like about the worst way a person could spend their time.
07-03-2014 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
there is no "reason" that crossnerd got unbanned in the sense of like some long deliberation. There was

a) an idea that people who want to post should be able to post unless there's a really good reason not to want them to post, not just in the past but now

b) a feeling that there wasn't really that great of a reason in the present re: crossnerd

then there was some modchat trolling and **** happened
So causing a ****ty environment for a majority of the population isn't a good enough reason to not want them to post.
07-03-2014 , 09:56 AM
i just woke up but that seems very much like begging the question to me. also I don't actually want to litigate that decision in this thread, or at all, pretty much ever, so PM moocher with all complaints imo.

edit: I only tried to provide a brief answer because the question deserves some response. My opinion always was that if it is the case that what you say is true (i.e that the majority of people don't want to play games with xnerd and feel she created a ****ty environment, that would be worthy of remaining banned). this should be obvious hopefully. The question is whether or not that is true. My perception is that right now it's not tur
07-03-2014 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Yes it should. Fairness has no place in the proceedings. A poster is either a net positive to the site, a net neutral, or a net negative. The last group can GTFO, without any regard to due process. The fewer supporters you have, the more likely you should be banned, and the more likely you should remain banned.

Not that I understand desperately wanting to rejoin a community that doesn't want you there anyway. Sounds like about the worst way a person could spend their time.
Select few <> net positive
07-03-2014 , 09:59 AM
Yg why you are tarding up this thread with different topic?
07-03-2014 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurp Durpington
Select few <> net positive
Meh that's fine, I was directing this to the gazz situation, not really Crossnerd. I find myself apathetic toward the decision to unban her even though it surprised me.
07-03-2014 , 10:00 AM
Forget it Jake, it's the internet.
07-03-2014 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
No, he was very mean to some people in a malicious way and was extremely inappropriate.

That is not the same as what we are dealing with here.
You intentionally ****ed the game of one of the nicest people on the site and basically led to her never modding again. How exactly was that not mean, malicious, or inappropriate?
07-03-2014 , 10:04 AM
Also your bs that you still continue to spout about not participating in the Survivor game as a strategy is terrible. The rules specifically stated yoy had to vote at every tribal. You didn't vote for like 4 straight times. That isn't a strategy, it's wilfully disregarding the rules.
07-03-2014 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
See now I feel like we are getting in that situation where people attack me for bad reasons and I get over defensive and sound like a dick.

Some stuff happened that was not my fault, I will not take responsibility for that ever, it is just not the sort of person I am. As someone who was bullied I have learnt to stick up for myself probably a little too much.

I will take full responsibility for the mistakes I made, if people want to give me **** about that then I deserve it.

Please lets stick to the facts though.
If it sounds like a dick and walks like a dick...
07-03-2014 , 10:07 AM
I can sympathize with not wanting to be compared to Mac. That guy was irredeemable to an extent never otherwise reached (that I've seen).
07-03-2014 , 10:15 AM
in all the recent games i've played with diceman he's been fine. never broken any games (obv) but also plays hard in any role and is more of a net positive in games i've played than some other players on this site whom nobody is even talking about.
07-03-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by corycurren
Let's find him IRL and execute him Texas-style instead
Yeah I'm either for letting him back into POG or this.
07-03-2014 , 10:47 AM
Meh, I'd have been fine with him coming back. But I don't like him sneaking back on a gimmick. Reban.
07-03-2014 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
i just woke up but that seems very much like begging the question to me. also I don't actually want to litigate that decision in this thread, or at all, pretty much ever, so PM moocher with all complaints imo.

edit: I only tried to provide a brief answer because the question deserves some response. My opinion always was that if it is the case that what you say is true (i.e that the majority of people don't want to play games with xnerd and feel she created a ****ty environment, that would be worthy of remaining banned). this should be obvious hopefully. The question is whether or not that is true. My perception is that right now it's not tur
Ok, so for 3 weeks or however long she's been unbanned she has been perfectly fine, maybe this will continue, if so fantastic, no problems with her staying.

Diceman has shown for a year that he can be a fine member of POG and now we want to perma him cause he circumvented the ban?

That seems not right
07-03-2014 , 10:53 AM
you are mistaking me for someone who wants to re-perma thediceman :P
07-03-2014 , 11:23 AM
give him one more chance if he doesnt like it ban him and do it properly this time

btw interesting that domer is so high on his horse, when he subbed into a game got randed wolf and insta subbed out

Last edited by necro; 07-03-2014 at 11:23 AM. Reason: this is grievance thread right
07-03-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Willi
Maybe we could also get VR back and she could run mets, magicgazz, teddy and mac reunion game.
Vr likes me so not sure what this means
07-03-2014 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
unless it's mets
Thanks

      
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