You know they call me The Postman because I always deliver. Answers to questions in a separate post because sometime I'm kind to your eyes.

READS

MOST TOWN

notquitethere: Is daring and clever and modest and is probably quite handsome under that hood. 10/10 town.

soah: First thing Soah does is give some fatherly advice on good cop play. Tries to corral players, makes town noises, buuuut only makes one vote on Gnaw which he initially refuses to offer reasons for. Hasn't moved it... but then Gnaw hasn't really done much to deserve it being moved. OK for now but is experienced enough to play this by the numbers if scum so doesn't get a complete pass.

Lissa2: Lissa makes comments on people's play, offers rationale for her Jr vote. Usually this would be considered the bare minimum but in comparison to our esteemed co-Champions, she looks pretty good.

nolemonplease: Makes a couple of pressure-style votes. Acceptable.

Mashiii: She starts weak with a placeholder vote but when she gets back she gets back good with a decent long reflective post (#288). I want to like, but she's not actually advanced a case beyond that RVS vote.

No Lynches: Excitedly spams up the first page. Later votes Phoenicks for not noticing a reply or something. #204 they give a fairly comprehensive read back which is a plus point. Also, not actually relevant, but I don't know why Spruce is their favourite new person.

Riki: Asks some pointed questions, makes two votes for reasons initially unstated. Generally quite curt. Should watch this one's activity as they could lie low and crawl past the net.

Jrdrylie: Introduces some ideas for discussion then ignores them in favour of random vote. First proper vote seems top be on Phoenicks which is made while simultaneously offering a case on No Lynch. Lacks conviction.

Phoenicks: Despite the fact that this isn't his first rodeo, he sure eats a lot of dirt. Feels victimised, makes some early technical mistakes (gets No Lynch's name wrong, mangles a tag, thinks he's put someone at L-1 when he hadn't and also when there's no hammer (did he read the OP?), later votes for Jrdrylie again when he apparently suspects Gnawazan. While not particularly awe-inspiring, none of this particularly makes him scum: he's upfront about wagoning being an established part of his site meta.

Gnawazan: Backs off from his early reads apologetically; 3rd vote on the Phoenicks wagon with no reasons given. And that's it.

Kawamii: Maybe this is a vast difference in house styles or something but Kawamii's style is like an upturned masseuse, it rubs me the wrong way. So she switches vote a lot which is okay (more targets the better, amirite?) but she never offers a rationale. In a single page it went: Lissa (no reason given), change to Phoenicks (no reason), unvote (no reason). Then she assures us it's Ashkersky for realsie this time (no reason given), and then later she admits that no one seems mafia to her. Inability to form cases is a sign of scum or, at best, inexperienced/disengaged town.

Spruce: Starts the game with a flavour post, which is OK but then he doesn't really follow it up with any content. Likes creating gifs and funny images, which is great (he hasn't got the memo that mafia is serious business) but he doesn't do a whole lot besides the fun stuff. He sings Flash at Ashersky by way of a sort-of-vote and that's about it for cases.

ashersky: begins the day by not posting anything game relevant for about four posts. Votes Soah for giving cop advice (advice which wasn't unreasonable). Yet to vote again as far as I can see. Low engagement.

MOST SCUM

right, time for phonetics and then i'll probably take another break, getting tired of sitting at the computer

random vote on me
lotta fluff
wants people to jump on my wagon (note this is useless at this point because i'm not around and the wagon dissipates quickly anyway)
reads jrd town and then votes him, seems very interested in getting someone lynched quickly i think
is a fan of fakepeeks being laid out (but doesn't want to start/organise)
doesn't seem to want to hunt for scum instead go from wagon to wagon and see what results, but he doesn't wait around (in my case) or seems to get any answers from anyone. it seems a weak strat imo
he might be in the top half of posters, but his posts generally dont have much content
he gets better as the day progresses with the average line per post increasing from 1 to 2



i think we have very different styles, his first posts were bad but he has improved a bit.

he's a mild scum lean at the moment - though he is trending upwards

Well, I've had time to sleep on my read post I posted before heading to bed last night my time, and some of those are likely wrong - I mean, they're bad reads. I still like my Towish reads, but I had said if pressed my Scum list was Mashi, notquitethere, and Phoenicks, but that's no good. A Scum Mashi would have made sure their vote counted, I think. I already mentioned my reservations about reading nicks as Scum. Part of what's giving me trouble is that where I'm from Scum always talk together in private - all day, all night, everyday, unless some role-restriction prohibits it. Here, they haven't done that yet, that we know of - I mean they're not supposed to, but there are venues where it might still somewhat happen, or they likely at least know who are their team members I'd guess.

I'm starting to get enough from interactions to maybe connect a few dots, and yeah, I'm actually kind of agreeing with asher about soah on a few points. nolemon is really helping me there, so I really really hope she is Town.

I still really like you for Town too.

nqt is sneaky is what.

sigh

time for the big guns

riki, soah, spruce

going to pour another drink first

He thinks he's Batman.

Votes from post 8 to post 431
Night in 11:16:39
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	Phoenicks	Jrdrylie (26), No Lynches (54), Gnawazan (19)
3	ashersky	nolemonplease (37), Kawamii (32), notquitethere (12)
2	Gnawazan	soah (47), Phoenicks (40)
1	soah	ashersky (30)
1	Jrdrylie	Lissa2 (21)
1	Lissa2	Riki (46)
1	unvote	spruce (47)
1	not voting	Mashiii (7)

nqt says Riki is crawling around under the net. I agree that Riki is a big gun.

i wish i wasn't playing in three games at once. it takes up all my free time

but without further ado

spruce:

bit o fluff to start, dislikes riki telling him to not post 'weirdly'
not a lot of game discussion early on
has a good analysis post on whats going on
i get the impression that spruce watches and jokes but secretly has everyones intimate details written down along with everything they've ever said
alright i'm not going to bother- i read everything dude is town

enough said

like, just reading him on tone alone he's very solid, but hes clearly watching and paying attention and demonstrates that with his reads and alaysis

its easy to see his processes, he's a bit out there yeah, but i think he's probably town

solid town lean

So both of you (No Lynches and nqt) have asher as Scum. Did y'all read his bio (which was pre-role-assignment), and are either of you familiar with the Dominion card game? It sounds a lot like a sort of role-playing mafia type thingy.

Actually, Soah should be a little lower in the rankings. No way do I like him more than Mashiii.

OK, questions:

Soah
Nope. I even mention it's a vote in the text you quote. All my votes are deliberate.

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Spruce
I'm glad that you see me as a deeply misunderstood force for good. But are you actually going to stop jokering around and press a case?

Quantify, or at least qualify, in which ways Riki has displayed their big gunnitude.

Dominion is a card-based deck building game, it's pretty fun. And yeah, I read all the bios. Your point?

Kami and I get our reads from Jesus.

iso him yourself if you're unsure

mashii not having a vote is bad especially at this stage imo

alrighty onto riki
lots of questioning
not too much pushing
posts a reads list

solid enough gets a pass for today at least, i think eod will be helpful in determining riki

leaning town

soah:
a LOT of questions, every post he's asking someone for something
elaborates on most of his reads

solid enough tone

lean town

alright time for reads list

yeah i read his bio - i think i read everyones

and no completely unfamiliar.

alright reads:

No Lynches
spruce

soah
Riki
notquitethere

Lissa2
nolemonplease
Gnawazan

Mashiii
Phoenicks

ashersky
Jrdrylie

i sorta gave up on documenting riki and soah

i'm quite tired, i'll be around for about 10-15 more minutes then i'm heading off

i think mashii could do with a bit of pressure

i'll probably be around for eod, i'll set an alarm so i don't sleep in

so i'm here but about to leave and won't be around for most of the next 8 hours

will definitely be here for eod though

I already have to some extent, but you've purposefully discounted any substantive posts from me, so...

But yeah, it's a game I find meant to be fun and not all gloom and doom, even if it is a championship GAME.

Day 1 cases where the Scum team hasn't actually conferred is even more problematic than regular Day 1 cases, which are usually more a shot in the dark than subsequent days. I'm not saying they're not there or can't be valid, just that the major wagons thus far have been on a weak case basis, if that.

On Riki, I just agree with Riki, that we haven't been paying enough attention to Riki, who has been up there in the post count and worthy of notice.

My point on asher is that he seems more experienced than his posts belie. He may seem rookieish, but certainly is not. I'm not familiar with Dominion though - is it an argument-based game as well?

What? I don't think I'd even call what he said there buddying. Why would it be an auto-lynch?

please read what i said above

i'd like to know your reads and where you stand

Is bussing not a thing there? Do you play really small games or something perhaps? I guess losing a teammate in a small game where the scumteam is two people can be pretty problematic if the setup is not kind to a lone scum alive, but aside from that I wouldn't call it the end of the world and even there you can bounce back sometimes. What's worse than bussing and losing a teammate is losing a teammate you tied yourself to too strongly because if the Town's caught on you're down two scum instead of one.

So let me get this straight, where asher is from, "buddying" is alignment neutral, "whiteknighting" is Town-supportive, and "partner-protecting" is Scum-supportive. Is that correct?

do you think soah is scum or not? it's pretty difficult to tell

like if you do i don't get posts like these

wouldn't soah going hard for his own ego or w/e imply that he's town?

Mashii

My first thought when I read this is... what?

Soah definitely doesn't come across as caring more about advancing than winning to me, and this feels kind of discredity.

I think soah could be scum. I am voting for him, after all. I think his reactions all day have felt like scum under pressure.

But, as always, I try to see things from all angles. Playing for glory is a possibility for scum!soah it town!soah.