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I meant better cases than mine on soah, which wasn't really a case so much as a string of observations I was fleshing out, but which were generally not popular or agreed with.

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05-12-2015 , 07:36 PM

#677

Phoenicks

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Which cases do you think are better?

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05-12-2015 , 07:37 PM

#678

Kawamii

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Originally Posted by nolemonplease

Who would you rather be voting?

Top three I wouldn't trust are soah,you and lissa

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05-12-2015 , 07:37 PM

#679

Riki

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does not answering immediately count as hedging

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05-12-2015 , 07:38 PM

#680

Jrdrylie

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gnawarzan

ashersky has definitely done more things that are suspicious in this game. But that was much earlier in the game, and since has been acting a bit more town. Meanwhile, Gnaw's posts have been a mix of unrelated, convoluted, and non-existent. I'd rather take a chance by keeping the more active player.

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05-12-2015 , 07:39 PM

#681

ashersky

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Originally Posted by Phoenicks

Which cases do you think are better?

Gnaw, who I'm voting. I didn't like the disappearing act after making a mistake. Town shrugs/laughs it off and keeps playing. Scum PMs the mod because maybe they just screwed themselves.

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05-12-2015 , 07:39 PM

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Riki

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if gnaw only recently found out that the game is plurality lynch and not majority, then he logically would've wanted to find out what the deadline would be right?

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05-12-2015 , 07:40 PM

#683

soah

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Originally Posted by Phoenicks

@soah

Thanks, but that's pretty underwhelming. Sure, he didn't explain himself as town that one time, but there's nothing really wrong with the explanation he gave this time. Am I missing some context -- I see in the other game he was coming in at post #411, whereas this time it's much earlier. Without digging I don't see anything there.

Well I disagree quite a lot about there not being anything wrong with the explanations he gave this time. It reads as nonsense. I called him out on it at the time (link). Link to his response.

I attempted further engagement with him to clarify what he was saying, only to receive this response:

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Originally Posted by spruce

What can I say? I'm an enigma, soah. I'm from Appalachia.

If you have a case against someone then YOU should make it, not try to force me to.

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05-12-2015 , 07:40 PM

#684

No Lynches

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morning

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05-12-2015 , 07:41 PM

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ChampionsMod

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Votes from post 8 to post 684
Night in 0:19:56
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
6	Gnawazan	soah (83), Riki (83), nolemonplease (57), ashersky (53), Kawamii (55), Jrdrylie (35)
4	ashersky	notquitethere (15), spruce (80), Phoenicks (68), Mashiii (21)
1	Jrdrylie	Lissa2 (32)
1	Mashiii	No Lynches (60)
1	Phoenicks	Gnawazan (20)

:00 good :01 bad

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05-12-2015 , 07:41 PM

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Mashiii

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Kawamii, you've voted ashersky I think two or three times across this Day Phase; I believe this is your first vote on Gnawazan. However, you've expressed that you've felt Gnawazan seems (or at least implied) Human, such as in response to his accusatory post towards Phoenicks, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...xplicitly here, here, and here. In fact, you chose to vote him when he was tied in votes with ashersky. Why are you suddenly more suspicious of him than ashersky?

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05-12-2015 , 07:41 PM

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Jrdrylie

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Originally Posted by Kawamii

Top three I wouldn't trust are soah,you and lissa

This is a good idea for everyone to do:

aside from gnaw, who is in his own category, I'd go ashersky, Phoenicks, and Kawamii (although your subtle trolling of refusing to give vote reasoning is definitely not something I see scum doing often).

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05-12-2015 , 07:41 PM

#688

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Originally Posted by Gnawazan

I'm used to games with fixed day lengths still having a lynch once majority is reached. I think I've only played one game I think where the tally at end of day (EoD) was the only one that counted.

So I pissed away a lot of time and effort on a misread of the rules.

Unfortunately I've been in bed all day except on the three occasions I spent attempting to throw up my stomach and other bodily organs. The only thing I've read up on is to find this mod post.

I'm going back to bed now.

So I checked and this was Gwan's last post.

It's not especially helpful, but it's not like he's a lurksack who isn't fulfilling his commitment. Hm.

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05-12-2015 , 07:42 PM

#689

Phoenicks

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Originally Posted by ashersky

Gnaw, who I'm voting. I didn't like the disappearing act after making a mistake. Town shrugs/laughs it off and keeps playing. Scum PMs the mod because maybe they just screwed themselves.

So... what disappearing act?

It seems like it's taken quite a few questions to get you to say you thought the gnaw case was better than other cases, when your vote seemed more like 'this is a leading wagon to put in on' than anything else.

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05-12-2015 , 07:42 PM

#690

soah

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Originally Posted by spruce

I had one typed out and ready to post in another window and lost it. It would probably be too boastful for me to foster, especially since that meme about me has recently been debated on my home site, but I don't usually make direct, willful lies in a game. soah has already said different here, and my home site has stepped back from that meme a bit. Basically if you're careful with how a question is asked, I'm very reticent about lying. Ask me rightly whether or not I'm Scum, and I'll usually tell you out right if Town and hedge somewhat if Scum.

What is your alignment in this game?

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05-12-2015 , 07:42 PM

#691

spruce

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Originally Posted by Riki

are you scum

No. I am Town.

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05-12-2015 , 07:42 PM

#692

Riki

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Originally Posted by Riki

if gnaw only recently found out that the game is plurality lynch and not majority, then he logically would've wanted to find out what the deadline would be right?

i'm asking others just in case this is too big of a leap in logic or whatever

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05-12-2015 , 07:43 PM

#693

Phoenicks

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Originally Posted by Mashiii

I know it's too late, but I'd be willing to explore a Kawamii lynch for some of these reasons. There were a few other things I noticed, and I think I've asked a few questions, but my thoughts are disorganized as we approach lynch.

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05-12-2015 , 07:43 PM

#694

ashersky

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Originally Posted by Phoenicks

I even mentioned it specifically when I voted, man. I used the term "sour grapes."

So, it's taken quite a few questions to get me to say what I already said in my original vote post?

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05-12-2015 , 07:43 PM

#695

Riki

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so like

if he's town he should be here and he isn't

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05-12-2015 , 07:43 PM

#696

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Seems like Gnaw has been pretty underwhelming since his return to the thread. Post count wise at least but content too.

That makes him trend down in my eyes.

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05-12-2015 , 07:44 PM

#697

Jrdrylie

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Originally Posted by Riki

if gnaw only recently found out that the game is plurality lynch and not majority, then he logically would've wanted to find out what the deadline would be right?

I'm not sure how gnaw could have just found out it was not majority lynch. He was involved in the L-1 discussion that happened 32 hours ago.

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05-12-2015 , 07:44 PM

#698

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Originally Posted by Phoenicks

Some late pressure wouldn't go amiss IMO.

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Originally Posted by Riki

so like

if he's town he should be here and he isn't

not everyone can be around.

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05-12-2015 , 07:44 PM

#699

Kawamii

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Originally Posted by Jrdrylie

Hul

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05-12-2015 , 07:44 PM

#700

Riki

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someone plz respond to my question i want to know if i'm wearing a hat or not

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