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04-20-2016 , 10:27 PM
1,2) Dead male
3,4) Born 1851-1929
5) First language English
6) Not born in USA
7) Not primarily famous for the arts
8,9) Famous for sports or law/politics
10) Not famous for a team sport
11,12) Famous for a sport in the upcoming Winter or Summer Olympics
13) Not an Olympic gold medal winner
14) Sport is practiced outdoors at the upcoming Olympics
15, 16) Famous for golf
17) Won either 0 or 1 major championships
18) Born in England
19) Never won the US Open
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04-20-2016 , 10:31 PM
Well, ****. I'm not sure who the best option is now. Maybe it really is a guy who never won a major.
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04-20-2016 , 10:31 PM
Horace Rawlins was really a nobody though. Only 11 players played in the first US Open, and it was just after the much more important US Amateur at the time.

The only thing going for him is it was the first one!
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04-20-2016 , 10:31 PM
Ah ok
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04-20-2016 , 10:34 PM
Hint extraordinaire: This guy's topical this month.
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04-20-2016 , 10:40 PM
I would still assume that he's won a major.
The only thing I thought with regards to him being relevant this month is if he had died recently, but is both unlikely and google also didn't come up with anything. Kind of hard to think of how a dead guy is currently topical.
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04-20-2016 , 10:40 PM
Open winners:

John Ball
Arthur Havers
Alf Perry
Alf Padgham
Reg Whitcombe
Dick Burton
Max Faulkner

Not sure any of them fit with the hint
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04-20-2016 , 10:42 PM
It seems like the game plan now is to wait for D1ab to just swoop in in the 11th hour and clean up.
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04-20-2016 , 11:06 PM
Of the guys mentioned, the only one I could guess as being topical is Harry Cooper. The Masters was on 2 weeks ago, and he finished 2nd in the first ever Masters and 2nd again 2 years later.

"Cooper is often classified as the greatest golfer who never won a major tournament, with 31 career wins."

He could have been mentioned during the Masters, but this is probably just clutching at straws.
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04-20-2016 , 11:20 PM
Have something a little left-field:

Alister MacKenzie, designer of Augusta National (The Masters).

He was a course architect, so maybe "not famous for the arts" rules him out?

Fun fact: He also designed my local course in Ireland
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04-21-2016 , 02:08 AM
What about Jim Barnes? He won the first PGA tour, PGA just went 100 years old in April
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Barnes
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04-21-2016 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tithayer
What about Jim Barnes? He won the first PGA tour, PGA just went 100 years old in April
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Barnes
forget about it... >1 major win
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04-21-2016 , 03:26 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herber...g_%28golfer%29
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Nicholls

are names that appear in relation to the creation of PGA in April 1916
Strong was the first PGA of America Secretary-Treasurer
both were amongst the organizing committee of The PGA of America
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04-21-2016 , 03:56 AM
Official Q:
did he get 65y or older?
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04-21-2016 , 04:42 AM
Cancel that question. And we don't even have any more questions anyway, just a guess.

Come on Tithayer. Really man, discuss questions with others first before asking them when it's this late in the game. Not the first time you've done it either.
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04-21-2016 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Cancel that question. And we don't even have any more questions anyway, just a guess.

Come on Tithayer. Really man, discuss questions with others first before asking them when it's this late in the game. Not the first time you've done it either.
if you want it, I can cancel the question. but we anyway will have to go for a Yolo guess, too much possibilities left. The three most likely to be right given "the guy's topical this month" are by order of likeliness (imho):
1. Herbert Strong (died age 64)
2. Gilbert Nicholls (died age 71)
3. Harry Cooper (died age 96)

death age is a possibility like another to narrow it down to one final guess.
then let's discuss

Last edited by Tithayer; 04-21-2016 at 05:02 AM.
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04-21-2016 , 05:07 AM
Yes, I'd say cancel it. But anyway, as I said we don't have anymore questions now. Just a guess left.
But I mean for the future also, you should stop doing that when it's that late in the game, as it can mess up a whole game sometimes.
Eye also commented on it before. Unless you are somehow very sure that it can only be x or x (which isn't the case here). Like you didn't consider spurs' Alistair Mckenzie guess in there for example.
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04-21-2016 , 05:24 AM
ok with the Veto, but then I'll take out the right to veto questions like "did he win an olympic gold medal?" or "famous for American football, basketball or baseball?"
yeah, Mckenzie might be an option too, should ask Wetzel if he would have ruled him out on the arts question. I let the pros decide which one they want to guess.
my +1 goes to Strong

Last edited by Tithayer; 04-21-2016 at 05:29 AM.
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04-21-2016 , 09:08 AM
You can have 20 plus a guess.

I would not consider golf course design "arts".
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04-21-2016 , 09:34 AM
At all: may I go with a question like "was he in the organizing committee of PGA of America?"
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04-21-2016 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rtspurs
Have something a little left-field:

Alister MacKenzie, designer of Augusta National (The Masters).

He was a course architect, so maybe "not famous for the arts" rules him out?
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Originally Posted by Tithayer
if you want it, I can cancel the question. but we anyway will have to go for a Yolo guess, too much possibilities left. The three most likely to be right given "the guy's topical this month" are by order of likeliness (imho):
1. Herbert Strong (died age 64)
2. Gilbert Nicholls (died age 71)
3. Harry Cooper (died age 96)
If these 4 are the best possibilities should be able to narrow it down to 2 v 2, with each side having 1 person we prefer to guess over the other. Alternatively even 3 vs 1 if there is a strong candidate on the 3 side. If the strong candidate is >50% vs the other 2 in the group, then that could be preferable over the 2 v 2 method.

of course there are other possibilities than just this list.
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04-21-2016 , 10:27 AM
So we go with Strong (and Nicholls) vs MacKenzie (and Cooper)?
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04-21-2016 , 11:36 AM
We might as well just ask if it's Person A with Q20 and Person B with Q21 if we're never going to guess Person C or Person D under any circumstances.
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04-21-2016 , 11:40 AM
Yep thats right
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04-21-2016 , 02:22 PM
Think you nailed the hint!

It should be Strong or Nicholls because of the exact 100 year anniversary I think.

I'd suggest guessing Strong first.
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