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04-20-2016 , 08:03 PM

#19751

DWetzel

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I'll wait for ones that are "official question" from now on, cuz that's how I roll

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04-20-2016 , 08:03 PM

#19752

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Probably more than 2%, but:

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3,4) Born 1851-1929

Based on this, he's about 30% not to have even been born before 1900.

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04-20-2016 , 08:04 PM

#19753

eyebooger

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I like the focusing on majors idea, but I don't understand the logic behind that question at all.

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04-20-2016 , 08:06 PM

#19754

rtspurs

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...inning_golfers

Take out people who don't fit the criteria, its a pretty logical question...

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04-20-2016 , 08:17 PM

#19755

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It looks like most of the guys who fit that and would be a yes to that question are one-off winners. Would he really ask about one of them?

I'd probably rather ask about a certain number of majors (not sure what the right number would be).

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04-20-2016 , 08:20 PM

#19756

Hero Value

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I'd say either ask about if no. of major wins is >1, or change the year of Major to like ~1920.
Or could ask about year of death, like ~1980-85.

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04-20-2016 , 08:22 PM

#19757

rtspurs

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As opposed to the one-off winners after 1900???

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04-20-2016 , 08:31 PM

#19758

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Originally Posted by Hero Value

I'd say either ask about if no. of major wins is >1

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04-20-2016 , 08:52 PM

#19759

eyebooger

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Official question: Has the person won at least 2 majors?

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04-20-2016 , 08:55 PM

#19760

rtspurs

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42 major winners fit the criteria, assuming none of the USA nationals were born outside the USA.

18 of those won a major before 1900.

13 of the 42 have won more than 1 major.

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04-20-2016 , 08:59 PM

#19761

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1,2) Dead male
3,4) Born 1851-1929
5) First language English
6) Not born in USA
7) Not primarily famous for the arts
8,9) Famous for sports or law/politics
10) Not famous for a team sport
11,12) Famous for a sport in the upcoming Winter or Summer Olympics
13) Not an Olympic gold medal winner
14) Sport is practiced outdoors at the upcoming Olympics
15, 16) Famous for golf
17) Won either 0 or 1 major championships

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04-20-2016 , 09:10 PM

#19762

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Originally Posted by rtspurs

42 major winners fit the criteria, assuming none of the USA nationals were born outside the USA.

18 of those won a major before 1900.

13 of the 42 have won more than 1 major.

I see what you're driving at, but I think we made the right call here.

The guy is likely to be famous and therefore have won more tournaments.

If we assume that the guy is famous enough to be the subject of a 20Q, we assume he won 1 major, right?

If so, I think he must be special. I like this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Rawlins

First ever US Open winner. Never won (or even played in) another major.

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04-20-2016 , 09:17 PM

#19763

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Could be.

29 left from that list.

16 are Scottish, 11 are English (Including Horace Rawlins), 1 Northern Irish and 1 Australian.

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04-20-2016 , 09:18 PM

#19764

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Also, from a list of the best ever golfers never to win a major:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Cooper_%28golfer%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Von_Nida

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04-20-2016 , 09:20 PM

#19765

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Seems reasonable.

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If so, I think he must be special. I like this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Rawlins

Ok, but who do you think for this 20Q?

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04-20-2016 , 09:21 PM

#19766

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Seems so unlikely to be a guy who never won a major.

Should we ask England vs. everything else?

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04-20-2016 , 09:26 PM

#19767

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Also, of those one-time winners if it matters:

17 British Open winners
11 US Open winners
1 US PGA winner

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04-20-2016 , 09:42 PM

#19768

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Should we ask England vs. everything else?

Go for it.

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04-20-2016 , 09:44 PM

#19769

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Official question: Born in England?

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04-20-2016 , 10:10 PM

#19770

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04-20-2016 , 10:16 PM

#19771

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Maybe ask if he won the US Open, then guess Rawlins if yes.

Of the 11 left, only 4 were US Open winners.

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04-20-2016 , 10:19 PM

#19772

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Single major guys from England:

John Ball (did nothing else of note; wasn't even a pro)
Joe Lloyd (doesn't seem too special)
George Sargent (was president of PGA, so more likely than most)
Arther Havers (meh)
Cyril Walker (seemed to be mostly hated by his competitors)
Alf Perry (meh, but name is Alf)
Alf Padgham (WTF there's another Alf?)
Reg Whitcomb (won only major with +15)
Dick Burton (meh)
Max Faulkner (seemed to dress funny)

....and the aforementioned Horace Rawlins.