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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-26-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!
wait hang on, yes, you claimed peeked DMK and didn't say what you peeked?
That is correct.
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06-26-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
I did want early claims so we are not fire drilling it. I will serve notice now that I am not reading any claims made at 8:45.

I am inclined to recommend crossnerd as tonight’s vote. It was going to be Coordi, but I am not inclined to kill an uncontested seer claim.
I get this, but we kind of need to hang Coordi. And crossnerd as a wolf can wait. Like it's high liklihood that are wolves have tried to bus crossnerd, which means not a power wolf.
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06-26-2020 , 04:41 PM
Coordi cmon man why does it feel like you’re in wolf chat rn and not telling us what dmk is

(gus)
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06-26-2020 , 04:42 PM
Why we should vote Atakdog

A post by Kukraprout

Atakdog was a villager in the first rand. He was in the game less than one hour and had 17 posts there. He was genuinely excited to be there. And one of the first things he did was call out my ex-wolfmate YKW about a weird post.

Here, after 2 days and a half, he has only 37 posts. And he’s playing defensedog. He doesnt try to initiate exchanges. He doesnt ask questions to anyone AT ALL. In only ONE of these 37 posts he sort of calls out someone (villager JDalla) for something weak. His reads are indecisive, when they exist at all. He knows aao's style as a villager and didnt defend him. He suggested several times a crossnerd shun, not because he thinks she’s a wolf, but because it would be a good thing in a vacuum. He is not making any effort to solve this game. He’s just a confused and slightly grumpy spectator.
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06-26-2020 , 04:43 PM
I haven't had a chance to iso anyone yet as I just got home an hour ago and had other **** to do.

My current Wolf list, subject to change:

coordi
crossnerd
NichP
dmk
biggerboat
riverfish
and someone else
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06-26-2020 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
Coordi cmon man why does it feel like you’re in wolf chat rn and not telling us what dmk is

(gus)
He called dmk a wolf earlier but didnt feel the need to mention it in his claim. If coordi is a wolf dmk is a wolf too. It was so obvious to coordi he didnt think it was necessary to mention it.

books
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06-26-2020 , 04:47 PM
OK, let’s try to break this down in a vacuum, without yet dwelving on the likeliness of the peeks.

If coordi gets got:

1. Coordi flips seer = dmk is wolf, but if the circumstances don’t align well we might not get to use it as we lose.
2. Coordi flips wolf = we got a wolf. This also does not clear dmk fully, as it could be a wolf fps to get extra time for the wolf.
3. Coordi flips villa = wtf, not even gonna comment.

If coordi does not get got, we must go dmk, else we dont have any clue about anything. In this instance:

1. Dmk flips wolf - we got a wolf, but the seer gets nk’ed cause we dont have an angel anymore. Bur importantly we do not lose yet.
2. Dmk flips villa - coordi wolf, but we may not be able to use that info as we might lose already.

Resolving this theough dmk seems marginslly better than resolving through cordi, but honestly it sucks either way without additional info. We need info to make some of the things more likely than other things.
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06-26-2020 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Why we should vote Atakdog

A post by Kukraprout

Atakdog was a villager in the first rand. He was in the game less than one hour and had 17 posts there. He was genuinely excited to be there. And one of the first things he did was call out my ex-wolfmate YKW about a weird post.

Here, after 2 days and a half, he has only 37 posts. And he’s playing defensedog. He doesnt try to initiate exchanges. He doesnt ask questions to anyone AT ALL. In only ONE of these 37 posts he sort of calls out someone (villager JDalla) for something weak. His reads are indecisive, when they exist at all. He knows aao's style as a villager and didnt defend him. He suggested several times a crossnerd shun, not because he thinks she’s a wolf, but because it would be a good thing in a vacuum. He is not making any effort to solve this game. He’s just a confused and slightly grumpy spectator.
this is good and correct. Only downside is that atak was not on any of the top wagons last night IIRC - so AFK could have been a legit reason.

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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I haven't had a chance to iso anyone yet as I just got home an hour ago and had other **** to do.

My current Wolf list, subject to change:

coordi
crossnerd
NichP
dmk
biggerboat
riverfish
and someone else
this list is so so bad.
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06-26-2020 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
He called dmk a wolf earlier but didnt feel the need to mention it in his claim. If coordi is a wolf dmk is a wolf too. It was so obvious to coordi he didnt think it was necessary to mention it.

books

Yea I’m trying to give him the benefit of the doubt bc barring a counter I have no reason to disbelieve him or further scrutinize

jonnyd

This is a pain in the ass on mobile I might just lurk til 6 (I know I’ve barely been around) or if I get on my computer then I guess it’ll be more manageable
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06-26-2020 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukraprout
He called dmk a wolf earlier but didnt feel the need to mention it in his claim. If coordi is a wolf dmk is a wolf too. It was so obvious to coordi he didnt think it was necessary to mention it.

books
Riverfish and kukra, I completely understand both of your posts. I would actually love to go atakdog, but would I get everyone to go along?

I know I won’t get everyone to vote Coordi. I think we have to go with the one wolf in the hand and get the two in the bush later.
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06-26-2020 , 04:49 PM
Coordi - in order for people to believe you, you need to post your seer peek posts. I'm lazy and won't go back and find them.
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06-26-2020 , 04:50 PM
OK, I've had time to process this. I'm just not buying what he's selling.

Coordi has dodged two wagoneerings. And, he would have been a super duper easy candidate for the wolves to bus if he's a wolf. That really makes me think he's not just any old wolf.

I honestly cannot think of a worse peek than birdman n1. He was the villageriest player in the game. It just doesn't make sense.

I cannot for the life of me put together a wolf team that doesn't have coordi on it. Nobody else has either.

but, after thinking about this for a while, it occurred to me that not only is he claiming to save himself, he's also trying to out our seer.
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06-26-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
Riverfish and kukra, I completely understand both of your posts. I would actually love to go atakdog, but would I get everyone to go along?

I know I won’t get everyone to vote Coordi. I think we have to go with the one wolf in the hand and get the two in the bush later.
why won't you get everyone to vote Coordi?
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06-26-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
OK, let’s try to break this down in a vacuum, without yet dwelving on the likeliness of the peeks.

If coordi gets got:

1. Coordi flips seer = dmk is wolf, but if the circumstances don’t align well we might not get to use it as we lose.
2. Coordi flips wolf = we got a wolf. This also does not clear dmk fully, as it could be a wolf fps to get extra time for the wolf.
3. Coordi flips villa = wtf, not even gonna comment.

If coordi does not get got, we must go dmk, else we dont have any clue about anything. In this instance:

1. Dmk flips wolf - we got a wolf, but the seer gets nk’ed cause we dont have an angel anymore. Bur importantly we do not lose yet.
2. Dmk flips villa - coordi wolf, but we may not be able to use that info as we might lose already.

Resolving this theough dmk seems marginslly better than resolving through cordi, but honestly it sucks either way without additional info. We need info to make some of the things more likely than other things.

Why can’t we do none of the above and vote crossnerd or atakdog and let the wolves resolve it?
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06-26-2020 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by riverfish1
why won't you get everyone to vote Coordi?
I assumed there would be reluctance to vote our only claimed seer. I don’t believe him so I would vote for him.
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06-26-2020 , 04:52 PM
Day 3: Automated Votals from #2310 to #2365

Crossnerd (3): YouKnowWho (9), wdcbooks (24), aaronk56 (15)
coordi (2): biggerboat (51), dmk (6)
jonnyd (1): jonnyd (16)
wdcbooks (1): Kukraprout (46)
YouKnowWho (1): gusmahler (3)
dmk (1): coordi (11)
crackedquads (1): Tokyo!! (19)
UNVOTE (1): riverfish1 (22)
Not voting (8): atakdog (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (6), Felix the Cat (0), KruZe (0), Nicholasp27 (12), sixfour (5), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 4h7m. Hammer at 10.

Vote history:
Spoiler:
riverfish1 (1): UNVOTE
Kukraprout (5): wdcbooks -> Kukraprout -> wdcbooks -> Kukraprout -> wdcbooks
aaronk56 (2): coordi -> Crossnerd
wdcbooks (1): Crossnerd
jonnyd (4): gusmahler -> jonnyd -> gusmahler -> jonnyd

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06-26-2020 , 04:52 PM
I forgot to add to the last post but i feel like a counter-claim would instantly lose us the game. We have to resolve this without it, and find the least risky way to do it
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06-26-2020 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
But carry on with the dadv. Worked really well with shortline as he told you how dumb you were all being
fun fact: coordi offered no input on the shortline situation yesterday

He appears to think it was poorly handled. Who is the "you" in his post and why didnt coordi voice his opinion yesterday? We will never know.

bigger
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06-26-2020 , 04:54 PM
I feel like someone said atak had high SK equity

And I’m kind of inclined to agree. Idk if he’s the best target. Just my 2c

(kukra lol idk)
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06-26-2020 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
I forgot to add to the last post but i feel like a counter-claim would instantly lose us the game. We have to resolve this without it, and find the least risky way to do it
I am not voting DMK. He has been borderline for me all game, but I am willing to go Coordi if I hear broad consent.
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06-26-2020 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by riverfish1
this is good and correct. Only downside is that atak was not on any of the top wagons last night IIRC - so AFK could have been a legit reason.



this list is so so bad.
Coordi I don't believe his claim
crossnerd has been playing like she took wolfing classes from me, (it is a short class)
NichP - his analysis reads like fake analysis rather than his analysis when he is a villager. I find that when I read Nich's analysis and he is a villager, I see his point immediately when he is a wolf I read it and go huh. This game is the latter.
dmk - seems wolfy on tone and has all game.
biggerboat - came in this morning and seemed way too happy and relaxed to be a villager.
riverfish - has made some bad posts and I don't like his reaction to the seer claim.
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06-26-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by riverfish1
this reads like salty outed wolf pointing out that village has been playing like ass more than actual seer trying to stay alive.
This reads like you are salty at being called out for doing victory laps in the thread
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06-26-2020 , 04:56 PM
I have to get on a work call, but after about 6:00 my vote is not changing somtalk amongst yourselves and we can see if there is some consensus.
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06-26-2020 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
OK, I've had time to process this. I'm just not buying what he's selling.

Coordi has dodged two wagoneerings. And, he would have been a super duper easy candidate for the wolves to bus if he's a wolf. That really makes me think he's not just any old wolf.

I honestly cannot think of a worse peek than birdman n1. He was the villageriest player in the game. It just doesn't make sense.

I cannot for the life of me put together a wolf team that doesn't have coordi on it. Nobody else has either.

but, after thinking about this for a while, it occurred to me that not only is he claiming to save himself, he's also trying to out our seer.
This is a good post. I'll give you some village points.
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06-26-2020 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
Why can’t we do none of the above and vote crossnerd or atakdog and let the wolves resolve it?
We definitely could. But if we are wrong in who we pick and clap a villager while coordi is a wolf and stays alive... how the *** did we end up in such shithole?!
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